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First post, by TheMobRules

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Gamers Nexus Video

Looks like it's game over for EVGA, especially considering that they don't want to work with Intel or AMD either.

Reply 2 of 15, by AppleSauce

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Yeah its sad news to hear, What's also intresting to me , is that in gamersnexus youtube vid he talked to an nvidia employee that mentioned Jensen wanting more vertical integration.

Does anyone reckon there's a chance that nvidia might pull a 3dfx and try to completely monopolise the gpu market?
There was less of a chance in the 90s but now with only few options maybe nvidia might actually worryingly attempt it.

Reply 3 of 15, by ptr1ck

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Wow. I've been buying their stuff since the beginning. My most recent being a 3060ti.

I don't think Nvidia will try to pull a 3Dfx. History could repeat itself but at the time 3Dfx didn't have the performance or tech lead that Nvidia does currently to have any success. Right now, it's more about supply chain because the demand is so much greater than 20 years ago.

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Reply 4 of 15, by RetroGamer4Ever

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Basically, EVGA has lost it's place in the GPU ecosystem. I love their cards and bought them without hesitation, but NVidia offering only Super-Mega-Force GPUs has pretty much destroyed a good chunk of the market that EVGA relied on. Right now, there are no solid low-end or mid-range new GPU choices for people buying desktops from Dell, HP, or putting together their own cheapo rig. Intel has offerings for those segments and is producing OEM designs for the new desktops, but they are not widely available yet in channels. EVGA cards were a big part of the low-end and mid-range market, which AMD and NVidia have abandoned for larger, more expensive and power-hungry gaming GPU designs and large expensive boards to back them. I myself intend to keep using my EVGA 1050 TI and 1060 SC for as long as they will function, but I will very much miss the brand and it's common-sense designs.

Reply 5 of 15, by Repo Man11

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I've an EVGA RTX 2060 in my system right now, I've always been pleased with the quality of their cards. I hate it when that happens, a brand that you like and trust just disappears. Asus and Epox, and so many others. All good things come to an end.

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Reply 6 of 15, by DosFreak

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Looking at my purchase history I think I'll be fine without evga:

8-2-2016
EVGA SuperNOVA 850 P2 220-P2-0850-X1 80+ PLATINUM 850W Fully Modular EVGA ECO Mode Includes FREE Power On Self Tester ...
This PSU died in 2019.

6-16-2015
EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 06G-P4-4995-KR 6GB SC+ GAMING w/ACX 2.0+, Whisper Silent Cooling w/ Free Installed Backplate

10-29-2013
EVGA 03G-P4-3784-KR G-SYNC Support GeForce GTX 780 3GB 384-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support Dual FTW w/ EVGA ACX ...

7-24-2008
EVGA GeForce GTX 280 1GB GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 SLI Support Video Card 01G-P3-1280-AR

1-31-2008
EVGA 512-P3-N802-AR GeForce 8800GT Superclocked 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video ...

5-2-2007
EVGA GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Support Video Card 640-P2-N821-AR

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Reply 7 of 15, by RetroGamer4Ever

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The only real "takeover" move that Nvidia can execute right now is pushing Tegra into the PC space, to take some share of the ARM-powered PC market, with their SoC designs. The latest Tegra designs are well-suited for mini-PC, notebook, and AIO desktop designs. While the chips couldn't provide a Windows gaming PC-equivalent experience, at lower resolutions like 1080P, the chips can perform wonderfully on Android titles and they are good for Linux gaming as well, though few Linux titles have ARM ports. More to the point, the chips are great for "general computer use", which includes media consumption, so that's certainly a market NVidia could tap into, which they once did with their older Tegra devices.

Reply 8 of 15, by darry

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My last EVGA graphics card was an 8800GT .

I tend to go with Sapphire for ATI/AMD cards and Gigabyte/Asus/Zotac for Nvidia, but I'm not married to any one of them .

Then again, I tend to target 150W TDP, while having a 200W TDP hard limit for GPUs, so the cards I buy don't need "extreme" power delivery design or cooling.

I do have an EVGA power supply in use and am happy with it .

From a consumer perspective, it is not a good thing to see a player leave the market, but it can make sense for a business to adjust/recenter its focus.

Reply 9 of 15, by darry

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RetroGamer4Ever wrote on 2022-09-17, 02:06:

The only real "takeover" move that Nvidia can execute right now is pushing Tegra into the PC space, to take some share of the ARM-powered PC market, with their SoC designs. The latest Tegra designs are well-suited for mini-PC, notebook, and AIO desktop designs. While the chips couldn't provide a Windows gaming PC-equivalent experience, at lower resolutions like 1080P, the chips can perform wonderfully on Android titles and they are good for Linux gaming as well, though few Linux titles have ARM ports. More to the point, the chips are great for "general computer use", which includes media consumption, so that's certainly a market NVidia could tap into, which they once did with their older Tegra devices.

A Tegra powered Raspberry Pi alternative SBC would be nice .

Reply 10 of 15, by jmarsh

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If I were to speculate, I'd say the fallout from the New World debacle damaged both companies while only one was really responsible... Hence the "disrespectful treatment."

Reply 11 of 15, by Sombrero

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Considering the level of journalism GN has managed to reach (how many tubers get to interview CEO's?), I really, really wish they would do drastic changes to their music/sound editing. The music they've been using lately for these kind of big videos have been, in my opinion, god awful. Aggressively generic, overly dramatic amateurish crap that makes me gringe so bad I'm having trouble keeping up with what the video is about. Not terribly happy about those bassy booms at chapter changes either, it all makes me feel like their editors are high schoolers.

Or maybe it's just me, haven't noticed anyone complaining about this in the comments of their videos. Though I've never read more that the first few.

Reply 12 of 15, by BEEN_Nath_58

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Although EVGA doesn't sell in my country, the fact that they are leaving the business will allow other vendors to freely increase their prices if ever so slightly.

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Reply 13 of 15, by darry

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BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2022-09-17, 18:26:

Although EVGA doesn't sell in my country, the fact that they are leaving the business will allow other vendors to freely increase their prices if ever so slightly.

There are still plenty of add-in board brands around, so I wouldn't worry too much in the long run. If this starts becoming a trend, it could be problematic.

That being said, EVGA had a big GPU marketshare and apparently derived lots of revenue from it. Getting rid of such a revenue stream due to "disrespect" while simultaneously not resorting to litigation (maybe the implied "disrespect" does not rise to that level) seems difficult to understand.

Corporations want profitable revenue streams, ending what was presumably a lucrative relationship based on a lack of respect (that somehow apparently did not breach legal or contractual obligations) appears counter-productive.

Either we are missing a part of the puzzle, or I have missed or misunderstood something significant (both could be true, actually).

The only mildly plausible type of scenario I can think of is if, for example, Nvidia tried to contractually squeeze EVGA out a reasonable profit margin. In this case, it could make sense for EVGA to bail and cite disrespect, but would make less sense for Nvidia . Then again, they might both have had arguably valid undisclosed reasons for this turn of events .

Reply 14 of 15, by liqmat

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I think this JPR article explains the situation well.

Reply 15 of 15, by The Serpent Rider

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Top 10 anime betrayals since XFX switch to AMD.

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