weedeewee wrote on 2022-10-08, 06:48:

I never used it on a win98 system.
The enclosure is just an enclosure, you stick whatever 2"5 sata hdd or ssd in that you like/can afford/have laying around.
It just presents itself to the operating system as a usb hard drive and/or usb cd/dvd drive.

i see, to test the waters i can try an external amazon usb dvdrw drive i have to see if win98 recognises it. would be useful to know if someone has used an iodd successfully on win98

gmaverick2k wrote on 2022-10-08, 08:22:

to test the waters i can try an external amazon usb dvdrw drive i have to see if win98 recognises it.

yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYacw9ZQyfY
rmc did a review on the zalman, dang

Wonder if there is a way to run it straight from a split zip file? Each file can be under 4 gb limit

I wonder if u3 cd emulation for usb sticks may be handy here?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U3_(software)

Sphere478 wrote on 2022-10-08, 10:34:

Wonder if there is a way to run it straight from a split zip file? Each file can be under 4 gb limit

I wonder if u3 cd emulation for usb sticks may be handy here?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U3_(software)

On the website you posted they mention only support for XP and higher which won't work for 98.
Though if someone would write the software for it, I guess it should be possible to use it on win98.
It seems just like the iodd or zalman except that the user interface is software on the host computer and there's no interface on the device to select which file to mount as a virtual cdrom.
And that there's also mention of support being phased out in 2009 makes me wonder how many devices are still available.

Also, the iodd can be used with ntfs, so no problem with files >4G

weedeewee wrote on 2022-10-08, 08:42:

gmaverick2k wrote on 2022-10-08, 08:22:

to test the waters i can try an external amazon usb dvdrw drive i have to see if win98 recognises it.

yes

fail, picked it up as as Amazon ODD initially, then after restart as unknown device. plugged it into different usb ports, same thing

would be useful if someone could confirm if iodd can be a thing for win98

Long ago for work I remember sharing out cd drive towers accessible on the attached windows server so they were accessible to clients. If your issue is the size of the iso and not the files it contains then that should work for you when using cd emulation software on the server.

Fat 32 on an external enclosure plugged into a 9x os is just asking for corruption.

gmaverick2k wrote on 2022-10-09, 16:31:

would be useful if someone could confirm if iodd can be a thing for win98

If I had a win98 machine with USB set up I could test.
Have you tried a usb dvd drive on win98 ?

weedeewee wrote on 2022-10-09, 18:49:

gmaverick2k wrote on 2022-10-09, 16:31:

would be useful if someone could confirm if iodd can be a thing for win98

If I had a win98 machine with USB set up I could test.
Have you tried a usb dvd drive on win98 ?

Tried to with external USB dvd drive, the Amazon one. No luck

There's another workaround. A socalled "File64 Emulator" seems to exist.
It will simulate files larger than 4GB using a set of smaller files.
It also seems to support "rloew's XFILE Version 2.0 or later".

From what I've seen online, it can do quite a few things:

"Features:
**Use files larger than 4gb on Windows 95/98/ME
**Emulation of large files for Windows 95/98/ME
**Allows Programs to create files larger than 4GiB
**All large files intact on the Windows 9x platform
**Compatible with all programs
**Enjoy Blue-Ray video on Windows 9x"

Anyway, I'm not sure if this is supported here. Seems to be a rather hacky thing.
Kind of reminds me of these utilites that promissed to support Long File Names (LFN) for Windows 3.1x..

Its strange but working solution from my experience - format disk in Apple HFS+ filesystem and use Win-Mac drivers or utilities to access files!

gmaverick2k wrote on 2022-10-09, 20:10:

weedeewee wrote on 2022-10-09, 18:49:

gmaverick2k wrote on 2022-10-09, 16:31:

would be useful if someone could confirm if iodd can be a thing for win98

If I had a win98 machine with USB set up I could test.
Have you tried a usb dvd drive on win98 ?

Tried to with external USB dvd drive, the Amazon one. No luck

maybe this can help https://www.raymond.cc/blog/how-to-install-us … -on-windows-98/

weedeewee wrote on 2022-10-25, 11:56:

gmaverick2k wrote on 2022-10-09, 20:10:

weedeewee wrote on 2022-10-09, 18:49:

If I had a win98 machine with USB set up I could test.
Have you tried a usb dvd drive on win98 ?

Tried to with external USB dvd drive, the Amazon one. No luck

maybe this can help https://www.raymond.cc/blog/how-to-install-us … -on-windows-98/

I always install nusb 3.3 on all my win98 builds.
I'm not as eager for dvd ISOs at the moment because warez dvds can cause havoc. True story. Now I'm interested in a solution that works 100% of the time allowing the cd/dvd to run at really low speeds for silent operation. This it's what had put me off using from CDs because of the Loud cd. Securom etc is an issue with Daemon without cracks etc so yeah...

just an update, got myself an iodd 2501 for £18 on ebay. turns out win 98 cant load image files as cd's, have to use it mounted as hdd instead so turned out to be a dead end

? Do you mean win98 doesn't support USB CD/DVD drive ?
The iodd normally emulates a usb cd/dvd drive and/or a usb hdd, with the contents of the cd/dvd drive being dependent on what image is selected for the drive on the iodd device.

weedeewee wrote on 2023-08-28, 09:44:

? Do you mean win98 doesn't support USB CD/DVD drive ?
The iodd normally emulates a usb cd/dvd drive and/or a usb hdd, with the contents of the cd/dvd drive being dependent on what image is selected for the drive on the iodd device.

120gb ssd formatted to fat32, put into iodd 2501, iso's put into drive. connected to win 98, shows as:
Type: CD-rom disc
File system: CDFS
1.99gb used space 0gb free
capacity 1.99GB

Have you tried a CD-image file ?
What info you just gave lends me to think you selected dvd image file which could have some filesystem software issues.

weedeewee wrote on 2023-08-28, 12:18:

Have you tried a CD-image file ?
What info you just gave lends me to think you selected dvd image file which could have some filesystem software issues.

yes, iso's i tried were cd-image sizes <700mb

WTF, just tried zalman ve-300 which had NTFS ssd inside with iso images. connected it up and selected win10 DVD iso randomly loaded up in win98... This wasn't working before with my external iodds. put on nfsiise iso on it and it loads up 😁 The only thing i've changed is that i installed restore CD for time computer on this chaintech 6BTA3 440BX board. awesome