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Reply 46640 of 52759, by TrashPanda

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acl wrote on 2022-10-13, 10:10:
👍 I agree, i have a third (broken) 3870X2. I was not able to test them in CrossfireX right now because my S775 card just refused […]
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TrashPanda wrote on 2022-10-13, 09:39:

I own a pair of 4870X2's ...Only problem I have with using them is the PSU required for them to even post the system, Ive been looking at 3870X2's but they are notorious for having terrible solder and are very prone to cracked BGA joints due to this.

So if both of yours are fully working . .take extra care with them to not knock them about.

👍 I agree, i have a third (broken) 3870X2.
I was not able to test them in CrossfireX right now because my S775 card just refused to work (it worked well a few month ago 😤) and i need to find another one.
I have other boards with multiple GPU support, but i'm seeking period correctness...

I like 4870X2 very much as well !
I would like to run mine in CrossfireX, but not sure it will work. I have two very different models.

Even if it works, it will not looks great 😂.

For power hungry configs, i use a 1000W silverstone PSU (on my test bench). It currently drives a Socket 7 pentium config. A bit overkill.
If i remember correctly, we discussed a few month ago about GTX280 x3 VS GTX295 x2.
The PSU used for these cards would probably also be able to drive 2x 4870X2 if you still have it.

Xfire didn't care about different brands so long as they are the same GPU and same memory which being a 4870X2 they will very likely be the ATI/AMD reference design, IIRC there were only a handful that changed the reference PCB and more than a few that used a different cooler.
Since they are the same GPU and have the same memory I see no reason they wouldn't work in Xfire. (Mine are also different models)

And yup the 1000watt PSU I have would work fine .. its just a pain in the neck to swap cards and wiring around, perhaps I need a few more spare ATX cases hmmm.

On a side note I recently acquired 2 5970X2's .. which are freaking huge cards, I only have one case that I could reasonably fit the pair of them in 🤣. (can you tell I love dual GPU cards)

Reply 46641 of 52759, by TrashPanda

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TrashPanda wrote on 2022-10-01, 03:44:
Grabbed a bulk lot of CPUs that popped up, Originally wanted it for the AMD 5x86 CPUs but noticed there is a Blue Lightning in t […]
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Grabbed a bulk lot of CPUs that popped up, Originally wanted it for the AMD 5x86 CPUs but noticed there is a Blue Lightning in there along with a SX25 Overdrive.

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I have been able to identify all of them aside from the two smallest

Intel 08486SX-25
Intel Pentium 120
Intel 486SX-25 Overdrive
Intel 08486DX-33
Blue Lightning DX2-66
2x AMD 5x86-P75 AMD-X5-133ADW

The smallest Im going to assume is possibly a 286 with the slightly larger one being a 386 of some kind, wont know till they get here.

I can now Identify the two smaller CPUs
TI 486 DLC -25
Intel 387 -16

Both of which are for a 386 board and likely were paired together with the 486 underclocked, there was also a socket 3/4 interposer in there too.

Reply 46642 of 52759, by Meatball

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Gravis Ultrasound PnP; nice looking card.

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Reply 46643 of 52759, by Shponglefan

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Earl764 wrote on 2022-10-13, 01:32:

Picked up this case on ebay. Thought it was just an old case in good condition. In reality it appears to have been NOS.

Nice! I think I saw that same case for sale and thought about getting it.

Glad it went to someone on the forum! 😀

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Reply 46644 of 52759, by Shponglefan

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Meatball wrote on 2022-10-13, 12:45:

Gravis Ultrasound PnP; nice looking card.

GUS cards are a thing of beauty. Always loved the look of red PCBs.

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Reply 46645 of 52759, by OMORES

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This CT1350 SB 2.0 sound card which needs some serious cleaning... (not tested yet)

And this SIS PC 100"BX PRO" board (confusing name...) (it works)

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Reply 46646 of 52759, by PcBytes

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Welp, the MSI/Medion Ti4200 proves to be a success!

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Now... just gotta sort out my modded Mendocino slotkets, enough to get them to run Coppermines in a stable manner (and I am very sure it boils down to some signals that must be probably rerouted) on my BE6, then I'm gonna check out how well would a mid-high end CuMine chip + GF4 Ti4200 + 440BX would fare. In any form, it would be a HUGE step up from the MX440 it's currently running.

Test machine is a bare Skt423 P4 Willy 1.5GHz, 1x512MB Micron PC133 RAM, a generic "450W" (200 on a good day) SFX PSU, MSI 845 Pro Rev1 (MS-6529) mobo.

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Reply 46647 of 52759, by Repo Man11

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OMORES wrote on 2022-10-13, 17:11:

This CT1350 SB 2.0 sound card which needs some serious cleaning... (not tested yet)

And this SIS PC 100"BX PRO" board (confusing name...) (it works)

Ah, the infamous PCChips M747! PC100 M747 - The bane of my existence

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Reply 46648 of 52759, by Salient

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Got myself a nice piece of computing history for a very decent price (well below the 3 digits in euros).
It even has the 64KB ram expansion. Not sure what I'll do with it but I just HAD to have it.

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Reply 46649 of 52759, by bjwil1991

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Bought this absolute unit of a PCI card: PPA 1325 sealed.

Has USB 2.0, FireWire 400/1394, ATA133, and SATA

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Reply 46650 of 52759, by chrismeyer6

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bjwil1991 wrote on 2022-10-13, 19:27:
Bought this absolute unit of a PCI card: PPA 1325 sealed. […]
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Bought this absolute unit of a PCI card: PPA 1325 sealed.

Has USB 2.0, FireWire 400/1394, ATA133, and SATA

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Now that's a combo card.

Reply 46651 of 52759, by schmatzler

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acl wrote on 2022-10-13, 09:20:

Oh, i followed this auction. (Seller from Austria if i remember correctly)
You got it for a good price !

The price was amazing, but as I said it was packed very poorly and suffered a bit from it. In fact, the cooling shroud got a few cracks from shipping, too.
They're only barely noticeable, though.

And I'm happy to report that the card works perfectly fine in my XP rig after soldering the capacitor back onto the board.

I guess I'll soon build a DDR3 Win98 PC with it. 😀

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Reply 46652 of 52759, by smtkr

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PcBytes wrote on 2022-10-13, 17:17:
Welp, the MSI/Medion Ti4200 proves to be a success! […]
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Welp, the MSI/Medion Ti4200 proves to be a success!

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Now... just gotta sort out my modded Mendocino slotkets, enough to get them to run Coppermines in a stable manner (and I am very sure it boils down to some signals that must be probably rerouted) on my BE6, then I'm gonna check out how well would a mid-high end CuMine chip + GF4 Ti4200 + 440BX would fare. In any form, it would be a HUGE step up from the MX440 it's currently running.

Test machine is a bare Skt423 P4 Willy 1.5GHz, 1x512MB Micron PC133 RAM, a generic "450W" (200 on a good day) SFX PSU, MSI 845 Pro Rev1 (MS-6529) mobo.

More proof that ram sinks on geforce 4s were purely cosmetic?

Reply 46653 of 52759, by acl

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schmatzler wrote on 2022-10-13, 19:34:

And I'm happy to report that the card works perfectly fine in my XP rig after soldering the capacitor back onto the board.

In fact, my X850 XT non PE went with a missing capacitor too. But neither me nor the last owner noticed it and the card worked perfectly.
I fixed it anyway, just in case it would damage the board over the time. It was a big cap, on the top of the card, near the bracket.

It's a shame i don't actually use this card regularly. The fact that i don't use a lot of my card is something that makes me consider stopping buying more things. I don't consider myself a very big collector, but i do need to take pictures of everything just to not forgot about things i already have. And that would be quite an interesting question for a topic on Vogons. "What is a small collection ? what is a big collection ?".

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Reply 46654 of 52759, by BitWrangler

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bjwil1991 wrote on 2022-10-13, 19:27:
Bought this absolute unit of a PCI card: PPA 1325 sealed. […]
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Bought this absolute unit of a PCI card: PPA 1325 sealed.

Has USB 2.0, FireWire 400/1394, ATA133, and SATA

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That seems real useful, how many do you get if you order a case? 🤣

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Reply 46655 of 52759, by PcBytes

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smtkr wrote on 2022-10-13, 22:47:

More proof that ram sinks on geforce 4s were purely cosmetic?

My best guess is RAM-sinks were a thing only for the BGA packaged RAM variants of GF4, like the Ti4400-4800 range. The Ti4200 I have seems to use standard DDR RAM.

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Reply 46656 of 52759, by liqmat

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Salient wrote on 2022-10-13, 18:21:

Got myself a nice piece of computing history for a very decent price (well below the 3 digits in euros).
It even has the 64KB ram expansion. Not sure what I'll do with it but I just HAD to have it.

There has been quite a few game releases for the PET over the past few years. If you get some type of virtual floppy device for it, it might be worth checking out.

A few I've run across:

https://www.masswerk.at/pet/prgs/ - Lode Runner, which came out just last year for the PET, is a rather good version.
https://arlagames.itch.io/dkj-game-watch-commodore-pet
https://tynemouth.itch.io/tut-tut-commodore-pet

Pretty sure you will have to switch to 40 column mode to run those games on the 8032.

Edit: Not super familiar with the PET, but it seems it’s a bit more complicated to get 40 column games running on that model.

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Reply 46657 of 52759, by BitWrangler

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bjwil1991 wrote on 2022-10-13, 19:27:
Bought this absolute unit of a PCI card: PPA 1325 sealed. […]
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Bought this absolute unit of a PCI card: PPA 1325 sealed.

Has USB 2.0, FireWire 400/1394, ATA133, and SATA

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So I mayyyybe just ordered a couple, haven't had a lot of luck over the last year or two ordering the last ones in stock of anything, they turn up not actually in stock. Anyhoo, we'll see if they get here, vendor had a WILD array of weird stuff marked right down. Also tried for a couple of 4GB DDR2 DIMMs, a couple of 500GB cheetah SATA drives, 32GB Msata SSD, then kinda normal pricing on a Startech CF adapter and a 4GB CF took it up to around apparent MRSP of two of them.

I was reading what google found me, and amazon reviews came up that suggested they don't like to have anything other than USB hotplugged (may also be a hardware securing issue) and ain't friendly with later windozezezes, which is all fine for me as I figure I'm using them in late p3 thru c2d era stuffs.

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Reply 46658 of 52759, by L-Link

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Roman555 wrote on 2019-01-25, 15:59:
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Behold, the QX9750: Somehow I don't think the BIOS is reading the operating speed correctly. It looks to be reading ~1333 x 9.5 […]
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Behold, the QX9750:
Somehow I don't think the BIOS is reading the operating speed correctly. It looks to be reading ~1333 x 9.5 instead of 333 x 9.5 ... weird.
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I was actually quite surprised to see the BIOS recognize the CPU model correctly since it was never even released and the only samples were supposedly given to people working at Intel. I've only been able to dig up a few mentions of this CPU.
Lot's of misinformation about it floating around unless there were different versions of it. Unlike the QX9770, it runs at 1333fsb instead of 1600fsb.

The BIOS (1.60) is too old. And it doesn't support 45nm s775 CPUs. I have the similar issue with Wolfdale Pentium E5x00 on Asrock 775i945gz. Moreover CPU-Z shows that the CPU works only at 1200MHz in Windows 7. What about yours? Have you tested it in Windows yet?
I asked the manufacture support to send me beta bios they have for sure but there's no answer yet.

Hi Roman

I haven't check it yet, but I think this is the BIOS you were looking for.

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