PcBytes wrote on 2022-10-18, 10:44:

I'd recap it fully. I have a 6VXC7-4X with roughly the same cap choices, and needless to say - if I got vast improvement over OC with new caps on a single socket board - you should have even greater performance with 2x Tualatins, provided you fully recap it.

With ~27 caps it'll be a fairly large job, might take a bit to source suitable replacements too, it'll be fun seeing how dual 1.4 Tualatin's goes.

Will likely have to use Mouser but if anyone knows of some other alternative sources for capacitors that ship internationally sing out.

TrashPanda wrote on 2022-10-18, 11:19:

PcBytes wrote on 2022-10-18, 10:44:

I'd recap it fully. I have a 6VXC7-4X with roughly the same cap choices, and needless to say - if I got vast improvement over OC with new caps on a single socket board - you should have even greater performance with 2x Tualatins, provided you fully recap it.

With ~27 caps it'll be a fairly large job, might take a bit to source suitable replacements too, it'll be fun seeing how dual 1.4 Tualatin's goes.

Will likely have to use Mouser but if anyone knows of some other alternative sources for capacitors that ship internationally sing out.

I like Digikey, and I just got caps from them to fix my monitor! They are only a few hours from me so I'm biased.

TrashPanda wrote on 2022-10-18, 10:00:

Today I join the Dual Tualatin club!!

Got my hands on a working Gigabyte GA-6VTXDR, it comes with dual 1ghz Tualatin's but I have a pair of 1.4s 512k P3s in my box of goodies. Would have been great if it had AGP but I do have a X1300 Pro PCI that should work in it just fine, failing that I also have a FX5500 PCI if I need compatibility, the board also needs a couple of new caps as two are starting to bulge but the Seller does state the board works just fine and sent me photos of it working. Since it does need a few new caps I may just replace all the ones in the VRM area while im replacing the two bulging ones, not sure how difficult it will be to find replacement caps.

Gigabyte GA-6VTXDR.jpg

nice 😀 - have one myself still with original caps all good. Despite the silkscreen, the board model is GA-6VTXDR-C; the GA-6VTXDR only has a single PCI slot

Kahenraz wrote on 2022-10-18, 02:09:

If you want a really good PCI graphics card for Windows XP, try and find a Zotac GeForce GT 430. It's the fastest PCI video card that was made. Ignore the GT 520 and 610. They have higher part numbers, but are much weaker cards.

I have a Sparkle 9400GT, which seems to me about as far as it's worth going for PCI, and that's pretty good for what it is. I think if I really really wanted much beyond that, I'd fork out for one of the 32 Bit PCI to 1x PCIe adapters and stick a low profile card on it. Feeling a little tempted to pick up one of those FX5500 PCIs while they seem to be one of the cheaper options though. I am fairly sure I have a couple of Radeons around somewhere too, 7000 series and 9000 series. Though funnily it's a similar but almost opposite sitch to Trashpanda... I've got a dual slot 1 with AGP, but if I can't get that going one of the single tualatin boards has just onboard or PCI.

Bought a socket 423 GA-8IDX3 (rev. 1.x) board.
Seller said it has stability issues. I can count 4 of those issues 😀 if it the BIOS I can desolder and flash + add a socket for future stuff. It has dual bios, really easy.
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-8IDX3-rev-1x/sp#sp

Seller's pic.

HanJammer wrote on 2022-10-18, 10:30:

Shponglefan wrote on 2022-10-16, 15:52:

Got this lovely boxed Epson CGA graphics card. It features a composite output, which makes curious to see how composite mode games compared to normal CGA output.

Pretty much every CGA card has composite out.

Good to know, thanks! 😀

Nexxen wrote on 2022-10-18, 15:58:

Bought a socket 423 GA-8IDX3 (rev. 1.x) board. Seller said it has stability issues. I can count 4 of those issues :) if it the B […]
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Bought a socket 423 GA-8IDX3 (rev. 1.x) board.
Seller said it has stability issues. I can count 4 of those issues 😀 if it the BIOS I can desolder and flash + add a socket for future stuff. It has dual bios, really easy.
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-8IDX3-rev-1x/sp#sp

Seller's pic.

It's interesting to see what others consider vintage. I for example don't consider anything ATX to be vintage, even though an ATX board could be well over 20 years old.

For me to think something is vintage it has to use tape as a primary storage device when it was released.

I know, go ahead and laugh at me punch-card users.

eesz34 wrote on 2022-10-18, 16:06:

It's interesting to see what others consider vintage. I for example don't consider anything ATX to be vintage, even though an ATX board could be well over 20 years old.

I draw the line for my PC collection at the ATX corm factor, to keep things consistent and easier for me to build. I do however have a couple of Socket 7 boards that are also ATX.

What do you think of Socket 7?

Kahenraz wrote on 2022-10-18, 16:41:

eesz34 wrote on 2022-10-18, 16:06:

It's interesting to see what others consider vintage. I for example don't consider anything ATX to be vintage, even though an ATX board could be well over 20 years old.

I draw the line for my PC collection at the ATX corm factor, to keep things consistent and easier for me to build. I do however have a couple of Socket 7 boards that are also ATX.

What do you think of Socket 7?

I do have a Pentium Socket 7 that is AT, and that is only 1 of my 2 retro systems, unless you consider an Athlon X2 vintage which I really don't. I was using it as my main computer 4 years ago 🤣.

I wanted a system that sort of did everything without being too new, and it was a specific 486 or Pentium. I like the Pentium because it still supports 2 floppies, doesn't use a stupid NiCd battery, has ISA and PCI because PCI cards are more plentiful than VLB, and the BIOS is modern enough (booting from CD). Oh, and this specific 486 board was very poorly documented.

I guess it all depends on the situation. The P5 sits somewhere between what I think of as modern, but isn't built like it.

This ACU MOS AVGA1... 256K video card. Max resolution 800x600x16 colors. Drivers attached.

Shagittarius wrote on 2022-10-18, 16:27:

For me to think something is vintage it has to use tape as a primary storage device when it was released.

So does the 5150 qualify where the 5160 doesn't (Original IBM PC and orig XT)

OMORES wrote on 2022-10-18, 17:15:

This ACU MOS AVGA1... 256K video card. Max resolution 800x600x16 colors. Drivers attached.

So many colors! I'm envious.

eesz34 wrote on 2022-10-18, 16:06:

Nexxen wrote on 2022-10-18, 15:58:

Bought a socket 423 GA-8IDX3 (rev. 1.x) board. Seller said it has stability issues. I can count 4 of those issues :) if it the B […]
Show full quote

Bought a socket 423 GA-8IDX3 (rev. 1.x) board.
Seller said it has stability issues. I can count 4 of those issues 😀 if it the BIOS I can desolder and flash + add a socket for future stuff. It has dual bios, really easy.
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-8IDX3-rev-1x/sp#sp

Seller's pic.

It's interesting to see what others consider vintage. I for example don't consider anything ATX to be vintage, even though an ATX board could be well over 20 years old.

I have two with RDRAM 😀
I don't consider vintage 478, just old. I love 423 because it's odd.

Shagittarius wrote on 2022-10-18, 16:27:

For me to think something is vintage it has to use tape as a primary storage device when it was released.

I know, go ahead and laugh at me punch-card users.

This is actually hilarious. Well written!

Nexxen wrote on 2022-10-18, 15:58:

Bought a socket 423 GA-8IDX3 (rev. 1.x) board.

Seems like it only supports SDRAM, or am I seeing it wrong? I thought the purpose of having a Socket 423 board was for the RDRAM support.

devius wrote on 2022-10-18, 18:51:

Nexxen wrote on 2022-10-18, 15:58:

Bought a socket 423 GA-8IDX3 (rev. 1.x) board.

Seems like it only supports SDRAM, or am I seeing it wrong? I thought the purpose of having a Socket 423 board was for the RDRAM support.

I got it for next to nothing. An offer I couldn't refuse 😀

Been scouring eBay for beefy 5v rail PSUs. Scored two 350W FSP's and one type R 580W. My athlon build needs it. I'm hesitant to recap motherboards, so here's to hoping at least one of these PSUs solve the power draw problem with 180w peak power on 3.3v + 5v rails combined

Finally got my hands on a DX4-100 Overdrive chip.

About as good as my dell dimension 466i will get!

BitWrangler wrote on 2022-10-18, 17:34:

Shagittarius wrote on 2022-10-18, 16:27:

For me to think something is vintage it has to use tape as a primary storage device when it was released.

So does the 5150 qualify where the 5160 doesn't (Original IBM PC and orig XT)

I can't say I ever saw either of those used without disk drives.

devius wrote on 2022-10-18, 18:51:

Nexxen wrote on 2022-10-18, 15:58:

Bought a socket 423 GA-8IDX3 (rev. 1.x) board.

Seems like it only supports SDRAM, or am I seeing it wrong? I thought the purpose of having a Socket 423 board was for the RDRAM support.

423 is a interesting piece to own, regardless whether it's RDRAM or SDRAM. I have a SDR based MSI 845 Pro w/ original 1.5GHz Willy core, and I consider it just as rare. Even more rare is the Socket 478 to 423 adapter I also have for it. (with what I think is a 1.6GHz Celeron, though I can't remember if it's a Willy as well or one of the very early Northwoods)