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First post, by BrAlZy

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I'm just curious and I don't know if it's been asked before but is the Voodoo3 1000 the Velocity 200?

Here's the card for those who don't know what I'm talking about:
voodoo3_1000_01.JPG

Last edited by BrAlZy on 2015-12-29, 03:11. Edited 1 time in total.

Reply 1 of 11, by PhilsComputerLab

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If my memory doesn't let me down, the Velocity 100 is a Voodoo 3 2000 with 1 TMU disabled in OpenGL and Glide games and only 8 MB of memory. The Velocity 200 I believe is the same thing, but with 16 MB of memory.

Yours does have 8 memory chips instead of the usual 4, so it could well be a 16 MB variant, which is basically a Voodoo 3 2000 with 1 TMU disabled in OpenGL and Glide.

It should be possible to enable the TMU through a registry key. And V3 drivers should also work by transplanting one file.

I do have Velocity 100, but haven't used it yet 😊

But yes, it was targeted as an OEM / business type of card. Still got decent performance, especially if the price is low, it can be good value.

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Reply 2 of 11, by BrAlZy

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PhilsComputerLab wrote:
If my memory doesn't let me down, the Velocity 100 is a Voodoo 3 2000 with 1 TMU disabled in OpenGL and Glide games and only 8 M […]
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If my memory doesn't let me down, the Velocity 100 is a Voodoo 3 2000 with 1 TMU disabled in OpenGL and Glide games and only 8 MB of memory. The Velocity 200 I believe is the same thing, but with 16 MB of memory.

Yours does have 8 memory chips instead of the usual 4, so it could well be a 16 MB variant, which is basically a Voodoo 3 2000 with 1 TMU disabled in OpenGL and Glide.

It should be possible to enable the TMU through a registry key. And V3 drivers should also work by transplanting one file.

I do have Velocity 100, but haven't used it yet 😊

But yes, it was targeted as an OEM / business type of card. Still got decent performance, especially if the price is low, it can be good value.

Thank you very much for the info!

Reply 3 of 11, by Tetrium

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PhilsComputerLab wrote:
If my memory doesn't let me down, the Velocity 100 is a Voodoo 3 2000 with 1 TMU disabled in OpenGL and Glide games and only 8 M […]
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If my memory doesn't let me down, the Velocity 100 is a Voodoo 3 2000 with 1 TMU disabled in OpenGL and Glide games and only 8 MB of memory. The Velocity 200 I believe is the same thing, but with 16 MB of memory.

Yours does have 8 memory chips instead of the usual 4, so it could well be a 16 MB variant, which is basically a Voodoo 3 2000 with 1 TMU disabled in OpenGL and Glide.

It should be possible to enable the TMU through a registry key. And V3 drivers should also work by transplanting one file.

I do have Velocity 100, but haven't used it yet 😊

But yes, it was targeted as an OEM / business type of card. Still got decent performance, especially if the price is low, it can be good value.

The Velocity 100 with just 8MB looks very different from a normal Voodoo 3 though. I have one, but never tried out that registry hack to enable that second TMU.
I remember having seen a heatsinkless Voodoo 3 card in a thrift store and thought it was probably missing it's heatsink because it was broken and the previous owner removed it to use as a spare component 🤣!
I should go check if I still decided to buy it 😁

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Reply 4 of 11, by PhilsComputerLab

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I also never tried it myself. Anandtech has a write up about it, and I haven't come across anything that made be think it doesn't work 😀

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Reply 5 of 11, by Tetrium

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PhilsComputerLab wrote:

I also never tried it myself. Anandtech has a write up about it, and I haven't come across anything that made be think it doesn't work 😀

Me neither 😀

Though the thing is that even though I can enable it, it will sorta turn it into a standard Voodoo 3 and I already have plenty of those and those, besides not needing a registry tweak, come with twice the memory anyway.

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Reply 6 of 11, by PhilsComputerLab

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I think that card deserves its own video. Glide gaming on a shoestring budget 😀

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Reply 7 of 11, by Tetrium

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PhilsComputerLab wrote:

I think that card deserves its own video. Glide gaming on a shoestring budget 😀

I'd like to have a use for it, but I also have a Banshee and lots of ordinary V3s waiting for a rig to be put in 🙁

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Reply 8 of 11, by sliderider

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Tetrium wrote:
The Velocity 100 with just 8MB looks very different from a normal Voodoo 3 though. I have one, but never tried out that registry […]
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PhilsComputerLab wrote:
If my memory doesn't let me down, the Velocity 100 is a Voodoo 3 2000 with 1 TMU disabled in OpenGL and Glide games and only 8 M […]
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If my memory doesn't let me down, the Velocity 100 is a Voodoo 3 2000 with 1 TMU disabled in OpenGL and Glide games and only 8 MB of memory. The Velocity 200 I believe is the same thing, but with 16 MB of memory.

Yours does have 8 memory chips instead of the usual 4, so it could well be a 16 MB variant, which is basically a Voodoo 3 2000 with 1 TMU disabled in OpenGL and Glide.

It should be possible to enable the TMU through a registry key. And V3 drivers should also work by transplanting one file.

I do have Velocity 100, but haven't used it yet 😊

But yes, it was targeted as an OEM / business type of card. Still got decent performance, especially if the price is low, it can be good value.

The Velocity 100 with just 8MB looks very different from a normal Voodoo 3 though. I have one, but never tried out that registry hack to enable that second TMU.
I remember having seen a heatsinkless Voodoo 3 card in a thrift store and thought it was probably missing it's heatsink because it was broken and the previous owner removed it to use as a spare component 🤣!
I should go check if I still decided to buy it 😁

Enabling the second TMU on the Bonesteel cards doesn't gain you much. It's the 8mb of memory that is the more limiting factor. You might pick up a frame or two here and there, but that's all.

Reply 9 of 11, by Tetrium

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Tetrium wrote:

I remember having seen a heatsinkless Voodoo 3 card in a thrift store and thought it was probably missing it's heatsink because it was broken and the previous owner removed it to use as a spare component 🤣!
I should go check if I still decided to buy it 😁

Got it from the attic, but had a little accident along the way 🙁
Anyway, it seems the card I found had a heatsink glued to it, there are some glue residues on the GPU. It's a Compaq card with TV-out and with SDRAM and after having looked up it's partnumber and viewing V3s with similar PCBs, it appears to be the Compaq V3 3500 which had it's original heatsink removed.

Personally I'd only toss such a card without it's heatsink if the card was bad 🙁

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Reply 10 of 11, by Putas

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BrAlZy wrote:

I'm just curious and I don't know if it's been asked before but is the Voodoo3 1000 the Velocity 200?

No, Velocity 200 was never released.

Reply 11 of 11, by B24Fox

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I know this is an old thread, but I didn't find anywhere better to post as a direct response, in order to bring a little more light on the subject... So here I am 😆

I have tested myselft the following 3 cards, and gave them a quick run in 3dm2000 (game1 + game2) :

- Voodoo 3 1000 8MB @143Mhz(both GPU & SGRAM) BIOS V2.15.05-SG
- Velocity 100 8MB @143Mhz(both GPU & SGRAM) BIOS V2.15.06-SG --- this card looks identical and also performs identical to the one above.
- Voodoo 3 1000 16MB @125Mhz(both GPU & SGRAM) BIOS V2.15.05-SG --- this card looks different (bigger), and is almost exactly twice as fast as both above . This card does not show the info screen on PC boot before POST.. and the bios sticker is torn. So there is a slight possibility that this may not be it's original factory bios.. idk.

AIDA64 also reported 2 TMUs per pipline on all cards.. but idk about that 😕

Machine was a Socket A, running winXP with MS built in drivers.

Judging by the looks of things (but especially by the first two), the "Velocity" name looks to be just re-branding that came with the newer .06 bios.