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First post, by Wuhtzu

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Before reading (Added/edited after my problem was solved): The solution to my problem turned out to be very simple. I simply used some very weird drive letters (m:\ to contain the installation and h:\ as CD-Rom drive) which caused the problem. So the solution was to use C:\ and D:\ instead.... but feel free to read and enjoy my "stupidity" 😀

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I can't get TRASH IT to run in DOSBox v0.70. It either fails at startup because it can't find the CD or during installation due to an unknown reason. Here are the two situations described in detail:

#1: Failure during startup
I'm mounting a folder containing a successful installation of the game, created by installing the game in Windows XP SP2, and the CD-Rom:

mount m g:\trashit
mount h h:\ -t cdrom

Then when I start the game m:\trashit.bat it loads for a few seconds before asking for the cd-rom to be inserted. I can't get any further.

#1: Failure during install
I'm mounting a folder for the game to be installed in and the CD-rom to install from:

mount m g:\dos
mount h h:\ -t cdrom

Then I launch the installer from h:\install.exe, select the install type (5MB, 19MB or 90MB) and install location (M:\TRASHIT) but it fails as soon as I press the big red button to start the install. It gives no error but an "error animation" where the screen flashes red and shows Jack (the ingame char) burrowing his head in his hands. When it returns to the promt it says "An error occurred during installation!"

*CD-Rom mounting note:
In both situations described above I have tried every single cd-rom mounting method I can think of and it yields exactly the same result every time:


#Where h:\ is a physical Plextor DVD-burner PX-712A
mount h h:\ -t cdrom
mount h h:\ -t cdrom -label TRASHIT
mount h h:\ -t cdrom -usecd 0
mount h h:\ -t cdrom -usecd 0 -ioctl


#Where i:\ is a physical Samsung CD-burner SW-252F
mount i i:\ -t cdrom
mount i i:\ -t cdrom -label TRASHIT
mount i i:\ -t cdrom -usecd 1
mount i i:\ -t cdrom -usecd 1 -ioctl


#Where j:\ is a virtual CD/DVD drive created by DAEMON Tools 4.09
mount j j:\ -t cdrom
mount j j:\ -t cdrom -label TRASHIT
mount j j:\ -t cdrom -usecd 2
mount j j:\ -t cdrom -usecd 2 -ioctl

The above methods/situations has been tried on both Windows XP SP2 and Windows Vista 32bit on two different computers (AMD64, 2Gb RAM, GF7800GT, XP and Core Duo 2 E6600, 2Gb RAM, GF8800GT, Vista) and it gives the same result which leads me to believe it does not have anything to do with the hardware / physical computer, but in case it does have something to do with the physical computer here is details on the XP machine which I prefer to work on:

CPU: AMD64 3500+ @ 2216MHz
Motherboard: ASUS A8N-SLI (http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu= … =15&l3=148&l4=0)
RAM: 4x 512 Mb GeIL Value PC3200 DDR SDRAM (Running / set up in dual channel)
GFX: GeForce 7800 GT 256MB Ram
Sound: Onboard soundcard (ASUS A8N-SLI)
OS: Windows XP SP2 EN
Optical drives tried: Samsung SW-252F, Plextor PX712A and DEAMON tool virtual drive

Here is some pages of the TRASH IT manual describing the install process and some general troubleshoot in case it helps:

In case you don't remember the game: http://wuhtzu.dk/random/trashit/trashit_manual.jpg
Manual page 2-3: http://wuhtzu.dk/random/trashit/trashit_manual_p2-3.jpg
Manual page 4-5: http://wuhtzu.dk/random/trashit/trashit_manual_p4-5.jpg
Manual page 23: http://wuhtzu.dk/random/trashit/trashit_manual_p23.jpg
Manual page 24-25: http://wuhtzu.dk/random/trashit/trashit_manual_p24-25.jpg
Manual page 26: http://wuhtzu.dk/random/trashit/trashit_manual_p26.jpg

Worth noting in the manual:
Page 2: System requirements
Page 2-5: Install procedures
Page 24: Regarding MS-DOS, memory and smartdrive
Page 26, middle: "... Trash-it is a native MS-DOS product ..."

That's about all the information I can provide about my attempts to make TRASH IT run in DOSBox. One last thing which might settle some ongoing thoughts inside your head. Even though I can run TRASH IT perfectly in Windows XP I'm trying to make it work in DOSBox because a friend of mine can't run TRASH IT in Windows Vista (due to some 16bit / video driver vista stuff)

Thank you for reading my post and maybe helping me out

Best regards
Wuhtzu 😀[/b]

Last edited by Wuhtzu on 2007-07-11, 20:35. Edited 2 times in total.

Reply 2 of 10, by MiniMax

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Wuhtzu wrote:
#1: Failure during install I'm mounting a folder for the game to be installed in and the CD-rom to install from: […]
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#1: Failure during install
I'm mounting a folder for the game to be installed in and the CD-rom to install from:

mount m g:\dos
mount h h:\ -t cdrom

Then I launch the installer from f:\install.exe, select the install type (5MB, 19MB or 90MB) and install location (M:\TRASHIT) but it fails as soon as I press the big red button to start the install.

Only ½-way correct.
Wait - make that only 1/3 correct.

Hvorfor gør du det hele så kompliceret makker?

Mount G:\dos as C in DOSBox.
Mount H:\ as D -t cdrom in DOSBox
Install from D:\install.exe in DOSBox to C:\TRASHIT.
Play from C:\TRASHIT in DOSBox.

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Reply 3 of 10, by Wuhtzu

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Thank you DosFreak, your suggestion led to a solution!

I couldn't launch the game from the folder containing the successful installation (created by installing it in WinXP), it still wouldn't find the CD, but I however succeeded in mounting a folder (to install it to) and the CD-Rom (to install it from) and installing the game from DOSBox using the drive letters DosFreak purposed:

mount C g:\dos
mount D h:\ -t cdrom

Afterwards I successfully started the game using the same "mountings".

I can't believe I wrote this awful long and detailed post to find a solution this easy.

Thanks again DosFreak

Best regards
Wuhtzu

Reply 4 of 10, by Wuhtzu

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MiniMax: I don't know why I made it "so difficult". I just didn't think about the drive letters being a factor. And why did I start by assigning my drive the letter m? I actually don't know, I suppose I did so because on my computer the drives up till m is occupied so I automatically took the next letter available. But of course you can have a drive C in DOSBox along with your normal drive C 😀

Why is the stuff you quoted only "1/2-way or 1/3-way" correct?

Reply 5 of 10, by DosFreak

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He was referring to my post where I didn't correct you on the installed location of your program.

In DosBox if you do a "Mount c c:\nameofgame", then the files in "nameofgame" directory will now be in "C:\". What you want is to do a "mount c c:\Games"

Then "Games" will be your "C:\" and your game will be in "C:\nameofgame".

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Reply 6 of 10, by MiniMax

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DosFreak wrote:

He was referring to my post where I didn't correct you on the installed location of your program.

Eh - no.

First of Wuhtzu used the strange drive-letters M and H. That makes it half-wrong.

Second, he(?) claimed to use f:\install.exe. But F couldn't exist if he mounted the CD as H. More minus points there.

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Reply 7 of 10, by DosFreak

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I noticed that your running Vista. In Vista in any directory other than your profile you will not have write access unless you change the file permissions or you run your program as administrator (Right-click run as admin). So if your using DosBox in Vista then you'll need to either give write permission to your account to folder where you keep the games you play in DosBox or configure DosBox to run as admin always.

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Reply 8 of 10, by Wuhtzu

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#DosFreak
Yup, the aim of this was to get Trash It to run on Vista and I'm aware of the write permission "problem", but thanks for mentioning it. Btw. my friend got it running just fine in Vista 😀

#MiniMax
I didn't mean offend you in any way, I was just curious 😀 And yes, you are right about f:\install.exe does not exist when i mount CD as h - I got those mixed up because on my friends computer the cd-rom drive was f and on my own computer it's h. I'll edit/correct it in my first post, just in case someone reads it later on.

Reply 9 of 10, by eL_PuSHeR

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Reply 10 of 10, by Wuhtzu

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Sorry for posting in the wrong place... I simply stopped when looking in the DOS BOX section when I saw:

DOSBox General
General information and assistance with DOSBox.

and thought to my self it was a place for problems regarding the use of dosbox, e.g. how to mount. Sorry

Wuhtzu