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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 49560 of 52929, by brostenen

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Sorry. Tripple post. Site throw me an error, saying that it could not complete post. Guess the reply-code on Vogons messed stuff up for me. 😁

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Reply 49561 of 52929, by jklaiho

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Recently got a Pentium 133MMX CPU together with a Socket 5 Intel Advanced/ZP (Zappa) baby AT mobo and some RAM, and started building a system around that.

A funny thing happened: I bid on a MikroMikko 386SX/16 system just for its AT case, but that fell through after it turned out that it's a proprietary format case with a custom layout that would likely not be compatible with most other AT mobos out there. I'd already transferred the cash, and when negotiating what to do over the phone, the seller (a jovial rural guy) mentioned that he had a new old stock AT tower case with a PSU from sometime in the 90s. This was an insanely lucky coincidence, much better than the original MikroMikko offering—if he's to be believed, it has even been stored in a dry room all these decades. He threw in a 5.25" drive and we called it good.

Excited to receive the case and test the mobo—the case should be in very good condition, no UV or other damage, and hopefully the PSU has a lot of life ahead of it as well.

Reply 49562 of 52929, by ediflorianUS

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pentiumspeed wrote on 2023-06-15, 22:31:
What model? Remember, you have no issues using registered ECC memory modules or ECC memory modules. […]
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ediflorianUS wrote on 2023-06-15, 15:41:

I know it's innapropriate , on a retropc forum , but :
look at my brand new... (Dell) Precision DOSMACHINE (little joke) ....

What model? Remember, you have no issues using registered ECC memory modules or ECC memory modules.

I'm thinking about getting Z440 barebones. I already have video cards and 2011 socket Xeon 16 core processor, buy couple of memory modules to start with.

Cheers,

It's a T5820 barebone , was verry expensive , 130eur shipped .(seen on aliexpress prices , it's nuts close to 900$ for mb+psu)
( I just need a Xeon LGA 2066 CPU and some DDR4 ECC Memory)
it was OldStockBrandNew(OSW)

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Reply 49563 of 52929, by paradigital

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I keep reading how the GeForce FX 5200 Ultra is a decent all round card for Windows 9x gaming, but I’ve never used one (even back in the day).

Looking round, eBay prices seem to reflect the fact that these are relatively “in demand”, at least compared to the godawful 64-bit variants, and I wasn’t willing to throw £50-75 at a curio that I’m not sure will get any use over my other GPUs in the collection (I tend to only buy the top one or two cards from a generation).

I discovered a Quadro FX 500 which, with the exception of the core and memory clocks, appears to be essentially a 5200U. £19 later and I’ve got it in my possession. Clearly I’ll try taking its clocks up to 5200U levels (core should cope fine, memory might be a tougher deal, the memory is rated for 550MHz, but the 5200U is 650MHz, 100MHz over spec is not a certainty at all!).

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Reply 49564 of 52929, by Meatball

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A couple of Radeon 9800 Pro cards have been added to the back of the closet.

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Reply 49565 of 52929, by BitWrangler

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paradigital wrote on 2023-06-16, 17:42:
I keep reading how the GeForce FX 5200 Ultra is a decent all round card for Windows 9x gaming, but I’ve never used one (even bac […]
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I keep reading how the GeForce FX 5200 Ultra is a decent all round card for Windows 9x gaming, but I’ve never used one (even back in the day).

Looking round, eBay prices seem to reflect the fact that these are relatively “in demand”, at least compared to the godawful 64-bit variants, and I wasn’t willing to throw £50-75 at a curio that I’m not sure will get any use over my other GPUs in the collection (I tend to only buy the top one or two cards from a generation).

I discovered a Quadro FX 500 which, with the exception of the core and memory clocks, appears to be essentially a 5200U. £19 later and I’ve got it in my possession. Clearly I’ll try taking its clocks up to 5200U levels (core should cope fine, memory might be a tougher deal, the memory is rated for 550MHz, but the 5200U is 650MHz, 100MHz over spec is not a certainty at all!).

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Oh yah, that will be tough, I see the next bin up from there being TC33, which should mean the 3.6 chips perform between 3.59 and 3.29 so with luck they might make 600, but another 50 doesn't look so probable, unless you wanna feed them another 0.1V or something.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 49566 of 52929, by chris2021

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No one cares, but I ordered a power backplane board for an IBM quad P3 xeon serverboard I bought some
time ago. What started out as a 10$ purchase ... blossomed/effervesced/erupted into a well over 100$ project. That may never work. Who would pass up a 10$ serverboard? PUT YOUR HAMDSS DOWN! Anyway no one warned me of the road I was going down. No one had my back on this one.

Reply 49567 of 52929, by libby

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found me a Computer at an impulse 200km drive pickup in East Bumblefuck, Ontario, haha

it appears to be a Corollary 486/SMP from around 1990, a then-absurd up to 10-way 486 multiprocessor server. not sure how many it has installed, but I spotted at least 6 of the cards in the slots at a glance.

there was also about 10 random AT white cases with components in them, few boxes of small 100-800MB hard drives, few boxes of random arcnet and ethernet cards, some software/books, and a few misc items. even a random diamond voodoo 4MB card

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Reply 49568 of 52929, by ediflorianUS

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Meatball wrote on 2023-06-16, 18:05:

A couple of Radeon 9800 Pro cards have been added to the back of the closet.

OMG a sealed box *9800 Pro ... that takes me back... to 2004... or 3....

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Reply 49569 of 52929, by BitWrangler

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Small haul at couch change pricing today. HD2400Pro PCIe, Matrox G450 AGP, NEC USB, VIA USB, yet another box of RAM... which the only "paydirt" it seems to have at first look is a 512MB PC-133 module. However, there's a pair of 16MB EDO notebook modules, which I am not sure if semi standard or proprietary at the moment and whether I can use them. Given difficulty of upgrading 486/early Pent laptops though, if they're useful they'll be a good score. Otherwise, seems to be a lot of smaller DDR and DDR2.

Nice to get a decent NEC chip USB card which are supposed to play nice with vintager PCI systems, I've got a whole mess of those VIA ones now, might be ending up stealing ports off them to fix onboard etc. G450 is a nice find, I think I have a matrox hiding from me somewhere, but only thought it was a G200 or so, I'd only be happier if it was PCI not AGP... however, should go nice in a win98 system. The HD2400Pro I can't currently think of a good use case for... although I've got a stupid stupid Dell box that doesn't like much, so maybe another chance for that to get something mildly warm.

Also a couple more HDD, WD Mybook externals, supposed to be Terabyte plus, might pull the drives to use internal. I still can't pass up cheap terabytes...

Oh actually, just peeking again now, there's some fast 400mhz/pc3200 512MB DDRs, they may come handy for winding out some Tbred/socket A stuff allll the way.

edit: drawing a blank on what this small module 16MB EDO is for, or what standard it fits, looks very close in format to the 72 pin "SODIMM" (Not sure it's really a SODIMM or retroactively applied) except this seems to have 84 pins on not 72... however, that could be 3 extra pins on each edge, x2, meaning it's sorta 72 pin but has some extra timing or PD connections. ... actually I'm just assuming it's EDO, could be FPM... Think my MMX tosh and thinkpad are both "new" enough to take the notched SODIMM. And my 486-33 Contura is old enough to take proprietary pinned modules.

Checked the ext hdd, one is an Ezgo or something seagate, not a mybook, looked similar, anywho, 2.7 TB space showing on disk management for the mybook, and the seagate showing 1.8TB .. think I'm doing media backup on the mybook and a bunch of hdd images on the ezgo thing... then I can feel happy about having my ass covered and be able to use some other disks again. Or at least not have to worry about storage for a bit until my TV snarfer is going and has snarfed 3TB or so.

editII: so the HD2400pro is a POS really, but so is the Optiplex 320, has gfx shadow mapping issues, and PCIe 1, but seems more like 0.98beta .. but I'm seeing now, Dell officially supported it's HD2400pro card on the 320, yay, it does get an upgrade from the x600 or whatever the even crappier thing I managed to get working for the sole purpose of claiming back shared gfx RAM off the onboard. No real killer app here, but might turn the 320 into early-mid XP box, maybe the quiet one you can RTS on for ages, not the loud one that gets FPS up the wazoo. IDK, maybe I just invent niches for these POS

edit the third: note to self warmest I'm getting for that 16MB module is Compaq Armada 4100 series, some kingston modules looking close KTC-A4100

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Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 49570 of 52929, by Turbo ->

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Got this card, among other things. I don't know if it's actually computer related, but it seems 8-bit ISA something to me.

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Reply 49571 of 52929, by gerry

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Turbo -> wrote on 2023-06-18, 17:57:

Got this card, among other things. I don't know if it's actually computer related, but it seems 8-bit ISA something to me.

I'm going to guess - but i think it might be an isa interface to an eeprom programmer, something pretty old

nice heat sink on that linear voltage regulator anyway 😀

Reply 49572 of 52929, by rasz_pl

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yeah http://matthieu.benoit.free.fr/all03/EPP01/Hi … g%201992-93.pdf
similar card https://platinum-international.store/platinum … rom-programmer/

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Reply 49573 of 52929, by Turbo ->

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gerry wrote on 2023-06-18, 18:13:

nice heat sink on that linear voltage regulator anyway 😀

I guess it took a little bump from aside during these years, but nothing we aren't used to here. I will straighten it up.

Reply 49574 of 52929, by BitWrangler

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My weird thing of the day is a handheld scanner interface for an Atari ST by GoldenImage ... plugs in the cartridge port I think. As far as I can see it just blurts 8 bits of TTL data onto the bus. Don't have an ST so might just see if I can cobble an edge connector to a 25 pin D and try reading it from a parallel port.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 49575 of 52929, by acl

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acl wrote on 2023-06-15, 21:52:
Bought a new lot today. Package has just been sent. […]
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Bought a new lot today.
Package has just been sent.

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For 34€.
I have no description at all. So just based on the picture i'm betting on :
- Radeon 9700 pro (Gigabyte Maya II ? Without ram heat spreaders ?)
-Probably an X800/850 (XT ? PE VIVO ???) Or could be something else
- A PCI FX5200/5500 ?
- GeForce 6600 GT AGP
- Promise Ultra 133 PCI
- A SATA IDE combo thing
- ASRock P4VT8+ with an unknown socket 478 CPU
- Random less interesting cards...

We will see at delivery.
What do you think?

Replying to myself.
Just received the package.

So, yes...
- 9700 pro 🥳 Not tested yet
- X850 XT (Not PE ☹️... )
- Not a Fx5200 PCI as i suspected but a MX440 PCI (sadly probably 64bit bus)
- 6600 GT agp. Cool, only have the PCIe variant.
- The hidden CPU is a Celeron 2.8 (Was not expecting a P4 EE either 🙄). The cooler is a pure copper cooler master that weights a ton.

+ A load of less interesting cards that I will probably giveaway or sell for cheap.

Will test that asap.

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Reply 49576 of 52929, by Nexxen

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acl wrote on 2023-06-19, 07:34:
Replying to myself. Just received the package. […]
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acl wrote on 2023-06-15, 21:52:
Bought a new lot today. Package has just been sent. […]
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Bought a new lot today.
Package has just been sent.

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For 34€.
I have no description at all. So just based on the picture i'm betting on :
- Radeon 9700 pro (Gigabyte Maya II ? Without ram heat spreaders ?)
-Probably an X800/850 (XT ? PE VIVO ???) Or could be something else
- A PCI FX5200/5500 ?
- GeForce 6600 GT AGP
- Promise Ultra 133 PCI
- A SATA IDE combo thing
- ASRock P4VT8+ with an unknown socket 478 CPU
- Random less interesting cards...

We will see at delivery.
What do you think?

Replying to myself.
Just received the package.

So, yes...
- 9700 pro 🥳 Not tested yet
- X850 XT (Not PE ☹️... )
- Not a Fx5200 PCI as i suspected but a MX440 PCI (sadly probably 64bit bus)
- 6600 GT agp. Cool, only have the PCIe variant.
- The hidden CPU is a Celeron 2.8 (Was not expecting a P4 EE either 🙄). The cooler is a pure copper cooler master that weights a ton.

+ A load of less interesting cards that I will probably giveaway or sell for cheap.

Will test that asap.

In your signature you have a "GeForve 256", uncommon variant. 😀
In my experience you usually find mid range or low end P4 and Celerons, "family budget friendly".
High end is either because who is selling doesn't know or care anymore.

Have fun with all these cards!

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Reply 49577 of 52929, by dionb

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A001 wrote on 2023-06-15, 16:36:

Riva TNT for a fiver. Surprisingly VGA output is sharp even at 1600x1200 and it performs pretty well.

Diamond's analog circuitry tended to be spot on. Their S3 Virge cards were also excellent (unlike a lot of other awful things that people stuck Virges onto).

Reply 49578 of 52929, by acl

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Nexxen wrote on 2023-06-19, 10:53:

In your signature you have a "GeForve 256", uncommon variant. 😀

Yeah i know !
I presented the GeForce 256 16Mb "3DProphet SE" in last year's GPUJune.
Should definitely make a video about the GeForve this month.

Nexxen wrote on 2023-06-19, 10:53:

Have fun with all these cards!

Yes, unfortunately i just tested the Radeon 9700 Pro this morning and it shows artifacts.
Not a big surprise. On the 4 Radeon 9700 Pro i own or owned, only 1 worked properly.

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Reply 49579 of 52929, by Minutemanqvs

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After months of searching for a decently priced Matrox Parhelia with AGP "universal" support, I got one, a 128 MB model. I added it to the G400 and Millenium P750 (Parhelia LX) cards:

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Searching a Nexgen Nx586 with FPU, PM me if you have one. I have some Athlon MP systems and cookies.