shevalier wrote on 2023-08-01, 13:01:

3. An ordinary office motherboard, if IT8282M did not burn out due to a poor-quality PSU, then it does not bring surprises.

Do you have any more detailed information on that? It is common issue? What are the symptoms?

Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2023-08-02, 07:21:

theiceman085 wrote on 2023-08-02, 06:41:

Well it really seems that bad caps are recuiring theme in the discusion which means I have 2 options. Either ask a good friend of mine which is good at soldering to help me as soon as I have the mobo or I have to look specifically for recapped boards already which raise the cost a bit but that's not really a big issue.

From my experience, it helps to know at least basic soldering when you're dealing with retro stuff. I first got into it about 5-6 years ago when I wanted to mod my PAL Sega Mega Drive and make it region-free. But it's very helpful with retro PC hardware as well, since components made during the capacitor plague era have a higher chance to fail.

It does require some financial investment though, especially if you're going for desoldering stations which are extremely helpful for re-capping. A quality multimeter which can measure capacitance also tends to cost a bit more. Also, it takes a bit of practice to get decent at (de)soldering, but there are loads of instructional videos on YouTube. If you're curious about this, I suggest checking out Necroware's channel where he repairs a bunch of retro PC hardware. It's really fun watching him bring broken cards back to life.

Have to agree. In the long run, it is a necessity to learn basic soldering for maintaining the retro collection. In the long terms, I also want to learn it. My friend could help with learning it for sure. But for now as a short term solution I need to get either re capped board already or commission my buddy to fix the board I am going to purchase.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_dkr=1&iconV2 … _oac=1&_nkw=754
https://www.ebay.com/itm/175751512887?hash=it … Oa4AAOSwwKRkdwv~
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174078980210?hash=it … v0AAOSwCXVdvV1-
keep in mind this issue with VIA chipsets, mine is bug free: Re: Not Another Ultimate Windows 98 Build

Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2023-08-01, 15:11:

Yeah, it might depend on where one lives. In my neck of the woods, NewCastle is the most common one, while ClawHammer is slightly rarer, though not super hard to come by. On the other hand, the socket 754 versions of Venice and San Diego are almost impossible 0to find here.

I used to see Venice 3000 s754 on kleinanzeigen.de for like 5€. You can spot them by part number:
ADA3000AIK4BX
ADA3200AIK4BX

3000 should be better for overclocking due to nice multiplier (x10), but that makes sense only on nf3 chipset.

Ydee wrote on 2023-08-02, 09:22:

shevalier wrote on 2023-08-01, 13:01:

3. An ordinary office motherboard, if IT8282M did not burn out due to a poor-quality PSU, then it does not bring surprises.

Do you have any more detailed information on that? It is common issue? What are the symptoms?

https://dalincom.ru/datasheet/IT8282M.pdf
This is a controller for the sequence of power supply to various components of the motherboard, which, among other things, turns on / off the PSU.
It is powered by +5V standby voltage.
If the Power Supply goes crazy, then it usually greatly overvoltage the standby power to + 6 ... 10V.
From this IT8282 burns out. The motherboard usually does not turn on.
From personal statistics - 3 out of 3.

theiceman085 wrote on 2023-08-02, 09:37:

it is a necessity to learn basic soldering for maintaining the retro collection. In the long terms, I also want to learn it.

In order to learn how to solder correctly you need:
- remember that solder is a liquid;
- get a lens, soldering goggles, a microscope.
Before developing intuitive soldering skills, simply look at the behavior of the solder. It is immediately clear that the process is not going correctly.

You dont need to be good at soldering at all, you just need to know somebody/company that is.

stef80 wrote on 2023-08-02, 14:17:

3000 should be better for overclocking due to nice multiplier (x10), but that makes sense only on nf3 chipset.

Or K8T800 PRO
https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/?showIma … 2&cpuSocket1=19

bogdanpaulb wrote on 2023-08-02, 13:42:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_dkr=1&iconV2 … _oac=1&_nkw=754 https://www.ebay.com/itm/175751512887?hash=it … Oa4AAOSwwKRkdwv~ […]
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https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_dkr=1&iconV2 … _oac=1&_nkw=754
https://www.ebay.com/itm/175751512887?hash=it … Oa4AAOSwwKRkdwv~
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174078980210?hash=it … v0AAOSwCXVdvV1-
keep in mind this issue with VIA chipsets, mine is bug free: Re: Not Another Ultimate Windows 98 Build

Thanks a lot for your recommendations. Looks really good. And thx fof the warning I will keep potential issues with Via chipsets in mind.

@shevalier Thanks for the info about soldering.

shevalier wrote on 2023-08-02, 14:28:

https://dalincom.ru/datasheet/IT8282M.pdf This is a controller for the sequence of power supply to various components of the mot […]
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Ydee wrote on 2023-08-02, 09:22:

shevalier wrote on 2023-08-01, 13:01:

3. An ordinary office motherboard, if IT8282M did not burn out due to a poor-quality PSU, then it does not bring surprises.

Do you have any more detailed information on that? It is common issue? What are the symptoms?

https://dalincom.ru/datasheet/IT8282M.pdf
This is a controller for the sequence of power supply to various components of the motherboard, which, among other things, turns on / off the PSU.
It is powered by +5V standby voltage.
If the Power Supply goes crazy, then it usually greatly overvoltage the standby power to + 6 ... 10V.
From this IT8282 burns out. The motherboard usually does not turn on.
From personal statistics - 3 out of 3.

Thank you very much, here´s why I asked: ECS 761GX-M754 no POST
I dont want hijack this thread.