VOGONS


First post, by bartonxp

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member

A quick tip for the newbies, there's a version of the Athlon XP 2600+ (the Barton version with 512kb L2 cache) that's known to be a good overclocker. It was a later release in the lineup so the manufacturing process was mature, which means they all should overclock well, and since these chips have a locked multiplier, FSB is the only way to go. But in the case of the AXDA2600DKV4D you're locked to the coveted 11.5x multiplier.

11.5 x 200 = 2.3 GHz

The mature process means these upper-end Bartons have a good chance at achieving this speed at stock voltage. Lots of people did this in the past, so if I were you, I'd keep my eyeballs peeled for a one cheap and then build around a beast of an Athlon for a fraction of the price. Faster than the fastest retail Barton.

Reply 1 of 5, by The Serpent Rider

User metadata
Rank l33t++
Rank
l33t++

Poor man Athlon XP 3200+ 400 Mhz is Athlon XP 2500+ though, not 2600+. On that note, you should look for DLV4D, which are low power versions and better binned.

I must be some kind of standard: the anonymous gangbanger of the 21st century.

Reply 2 of 5, by stanwebber

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member

yeah, the barton xp 2500+ was the value killer back in the day--easy, easy 400fsb overclock. i still have a couple of them mounted on a pair of abit kw7 boards, but it's doubtful i'll ever build another system with them for lack of isa.

Reply 3 of 5, by bartonxp

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member

Sure, I agree, the barton 2500+ was the 3200+ analog. The 2600+ was late to the show and wouldn't have been an analog, it would've been better which is probably why AMD didn't release a 11.5x multiplier barton until their next-gen product was on the horizon. But we all know this story, everyone but the newbies, that is.

XP boards with ISA are becoming the new unmentionable. They're getting rare, expensive and shouldn't be discussed openly anymore. I wont even say the good chipset name, it's forbidden.

There's a tasty looking DLV4D on that auction site, very rare but it has a chipped die. I might still buy it at that price if I wasn't already inundated with hardware, although a chipped die posses a risk of being further chipped with each heatsink change-out.

Question about the DLV4D versus the FQQ4C:

DLV4D -- 11 x 333 = 1833 MHz @ 1.50V
FQQ4C -- 14 x 266 = 1867 MHz @ 1.45V

Which do you think is the better binned chip and why?

Reply 4 of 5, by stanwebber

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member

i own the rarest of the rare of all athlon xp amd761 boards with an isa slot, but it stopped working a couple years ago. it was running when i left the room, but only an unresponsive black screen when i returned. powers on, but it will not boot. every component (except the ddr ecc ram which makes it the rarest) was transfered to another system and works so i know it's the motherboard. may get it recapped one day in the hopes that it might live again.

both my barton xp 2500+ chips have always had at least 1 rounded corner. i wish you could still buy those universal non-metal die-cut k7 cpu shims. i only ever got 1 that i use on a palomino 2100+ with a badly chipped corner. i could potentially run some of the 266fsb bartons (my 2500+ are 333fsb) in earlier isa motherboards with cpu microcode modded bioses, but i'm satisfied with my palomino xp 2100/2000+ despite the tdp and crippled cache which is a performance killer.

Reply 5 of 5, by The Serpent Rider

User metadata
Rank l33t++
Rank
l33t++

very rare but it has a chipped die

Crimes Against Silicon: Scuffed CPU/GPU cores

I must be some kind of standard: the anonymous gangbanger of the 21st century.