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First post, by Trunyx

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Hi,

I am relatively new to the retro scene. Last year I built a P4 system, but afterwards I felt like I want something a bit older. Eventually, I settled on a 386 system and bought a board off ebay from a seller with very good reviews. The board was lying well protected in my working room for about a year until now, when I actually wanted to boot it.

I got a FIC 386-SC-HG in what I would describe as very good condition. The seller removed the battery in time and replaced it with a coin cell battery. I cannot see any broken or corroded traces. It came with 8 MB of RAM and a AM386 DXL-40, 32KB of cache and an 80 MHz OSC. The board is equipped with an AMI BIOS chip. In order to build a small system, I bought a used and verified ATX PSU from a good brand as well as an ATX to P8/P9 adapter. The PSU does not provide -5V. Furthermore, I acquired a VGA as well as a IO Controller card, but for the test I just wanted to get into the BIOS. So no HDD or CF card is attached. I hooked up a PS/2 keyboard with a DIN adapter and a VGA to HDMI adapter and powered the system on, but the screen would stay black. I am pretty sure the system was shown to be working in the ebay listing. However, I cannot access the pictures anymore because the listing has expired.

In order to troubleshoot the problem I bought a cheap ISA POST card with an integrated PC Speaker. When I turn the system on, it only displays the code FF and LEDs which indicate memory activity flicker a bit. I can hear the memory test noises and then after a second two short loud beeps. Searching this forum as well as googling seem to indicate that it is a Parity Check Error. I took out the RAM, cleaned it a bit (without alcohol) and put it back in, but it didn't help. I ordered another set of RAM sticks -> 4x 256KB 9-bit 70ns, but they yield the same result. As a sanity check I got rid of the VGA card, which resulted in long missing video beeps. When I boot without RAM or an incompatible configuration I get RAM Error beeps. With the turbo switch shorted, the whole process is just slower. If I press ctrl+alt+del, the beeps repeat. I thus concluded that the BIOS and the system in general seem to work.

I am running out of ideas what to check or what the problem may be. I was born a decade too late for the 386, so for me it is a completely foreign system. Does somebody have a hint? Should I clean the SIMM slots with alcohol? Could it be the cache? But I think I cannot boot the system without the cache chips installed.

Any help is appreciated!

Reply 1 of 4, by aaronwhooley

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The problem could lie with the vga - hdmi adaptor. Those beeps sometimes mean it can’t detect the monitor. And the fact that it resets when you press ctrl alt delete would mean that the motherboard works

Your best bet would be to find an old monitor or tv with vga input and use a vga cable, rinse and repeat

*My retro rig*
1994 Peacock 🦚 “Professional”
Intel dx4 100 MHz
UM8810p AIO motherboard
32MB Ram
52x CD-ROM
540 mb Quantum Fireball
AWE 32 ISA
S3 Trio 64 PCI
Voodoo 1 4mb PCI
Realtek LAN PCI
Hyundai Image Quest v770

Reply 2 of 4, by Trunyx

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aaronwhooley wrote on 2024-01-30, 19:12:

The problem could lie with the vga - hdmi adaptor. Those beeps sometimes mean it can’t detect the monitor. And the fact that it resets when you press ctrl alt delete would mean that the motherboard works

Your best bet would be to find an old monitor or tv with vga input and use a vga cable, rinse and repeat

Okay now I feel very stupid, but I quickly found an old VGA monitor and plugged it in and now it shows the BIOS just fine. I didn't really question the VGA to HDMI adapter, because it works just fine on my P4 Win98 system. The only difference is that the Win98 PC can power the adapter itself via USB. The 386 of course has no USB, so I hooked it to phone charger. The manual said it should be fine. So maybe I need to figure out another way to get a modern display going. The BIOS screen shows, as expected, a CMOS configuration mismatch. Probably the beeps refer to that.

Reply 3 of 4, by aaronwhooley

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Happens to the best of us man. I’m delighted for you it’s working!

*My retro rig*
1994 Peacock 🦚 “Professional”
Intel dx4 100 MHz
UM8810p AIO motherboard
32MB Ram
52x CD-ROM
540 mb Quantum Fireball
AWE 32 ISA
S3 Trio 64 PCI
Voodoo 1 4mb PCI
Realtek LAN PCI
Hyundai Image Quest v770

Reply 4 of 4, by rasz_pl

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Trunyx wrote on 2024-01-30, 19:08:

In order to troubleshoot the problem I bought a cheap ISA POST card with an integrated PC Speaker. When I turn the system on, it only displays the code FF

looks like its broken 😀

https://github.com/raszpl/sigrok-disk FM/MFM/RLL decoder
https://github.com/raszpl/FIC-486-GAC-2-Cache-Module (AT&T Globalyst)
https://github.com/raszpl/386RC-16 ram board
https://github.com/raszpl/440BX Reference Design adapted to Kicad