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First post, by naujoks

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I want to replace the 32MB RAM on an 1998 VAIO 505FX with 64MB.
I'm planning to take off the chips with my hot air station.
What's the best way to solder the new chips on though? The space between the ICs is so narrow and the solder pads are barely longer, if at all, than the IC's legs.
Recommendations?

Reply 1 of 15, by kaputnik

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I'd use a regular soldering iron with a narrow beveled tip and plenty of no-wash tacky flux, despite the crampedness. Make sure you have a copper braid available too.

Since you have a hot air station, using it and tin paste might be an easier option if you have some previous experience with that method. If you aren't spot on with the amount of paste to use, it will probably end up in a mess though.

Reply 2 of 15, by dominusprog

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Also use kapton tape if you are planning to use hot air.

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Reply 3 of 15, by naujoks

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I used aluminium foil to cover things and I managed to get to the row of pins next to the PCMCIA slot with a very fine tip.
Operation successful: a whopping 64MB RAM now!

Reply 4 of 15, by rasz_pl

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no onboard size jumpers/spd reprogramming needed? Bios picked it up automagically? neat

https://github.com/raszpl/FIC-486-GAC-2-Cache-Module for AT&T Globalyst
https://github.com/raszpl/386RC-16 memory board
https://github.com/raszpl/440BX Reference Design adapted to Kicad
https://github.com/raszpl/Zenith_ZBIOS MFM-300 Monitor

Reply 5 of 15, by Thermalwrong

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naujoks wrote on 2024-06-19, 12:39:

I used aluminium foil to cover things and I managed to get to the row of pins next to the PCMCIA slot with a very fine tip.
Operation successful: a whopping 64MB RAM now!

Woah, nice job.
I was gonna say foil tape is best according to hot air soldering videos I've seen on youtube, aluminium foil should work great too when it doesn't blow away

Is the Sony PCG-505FX another one of Sony's laptops that has totally non-standard memory? Looks like it is: https://www.pchistory.lv/notebook-sony-pcg-505fx/
My Picturebook PCG-C1XD is the same, stuck with the stock 64MB ram forever
That's very cool that it worked with just doubling the density, I guess that's because it's EDO rather than SDRAM

Reply 6 of 15, by naujoks

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rasz_pl wrote on 2024-06-22, 19:08:

no onboard size jumpers/spd reprogramming needed? Bios picked it up automagically? neat

Yes, that's right.
I only knew this would work because someone else tried to do this before me:
http://www.fieros.de/vaio/ram.html

Unfortunately I don't have the RAM module, so I can't get the machine up to 128MB.

It's an awesome little laptop, which I would have been very happy to use in 1998. Financally it was waaaay out of reach though.
It does all the things it's supposed to do really fast, like Word opens in a second or so. It even plays Half Life (quite choppily though).

Reply 7 of 15, by rasz_pl

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Does it have pipelined burst cache? in that case 64MB is the optimal config since it maxes out 430TX cacheable area.

>http://www.fieros.de/vaio/ram.html

Have you also overclocked yours http://www.fieros.de/vaio/cpu.html ? 😀

https://github.com/raszpl/FIC-486-GAC-2-Cache-Module for AT&T Globalyst
https://github.com/raszpl/386RC-16 memory board
https://github.com/raszpl/440BX Reference Design adapted to Kicad
https://github.com/raszpl/Zenith_ZBIOS MFM-300 Monitor

Reply 8 of 15, by naujoks

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omg I hadn't even seen that yet!
I will have to try it out immediately. The poor VAIO, it was settling in for its old age but now it's being pushed to its limits 🤣

Reply 9 of 15, by rasz_pl

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266MHZ -> 300MHz suggests fsb 66 -> 75 on a Tilamook with 4x multiplier There are Libretto OC guides on the net with clues how to find multiplier pins if your CPUI happens to be unlocked
Re: Soldering RAM chips question

https://github.com/raszpl/FIC-486-GAC-2-Cache-Module for AT&T Globalyst
https://github.com/raszpl/386RC-16 memory board
https://github.com/raszpl/440BX Reference Design adapted to Kicad
https://github.com/raszpl/Zenith_ZBIOS MFM-300 Monitor

Reply 10 of 15, by naujoks

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I did the mod, but it didn't change anything. The machine is still at 266MHz. What a shame.

Reply 12 of 15, by naujoks

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According to the website, it will say 300MHz on the boot screen.
I checked with HWINFO, it says 266 there too.

Reply 13 of 15, by rasz_pl

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hmm if the bios can show 300 then it would suggest its a multiplier mod after all bumping to mythical x4.5
I pasted wrong link in my previous post 😐 back to this thread instead of Re: Tillamook SMP and multiplier unlocking investigation thread.
locked CPU will not let you do that, and as Sphere478 found out even unlocked ones arent a guarantee

https://github.com/raszpl/FIC-486-GAC-2-Cache-Module for AT&T Globalyst
https://github.com/raszpl/386RC-16 memory board
https://github.com/raszpl/440BX Reference Design adapted to Kicad
https://github.com/raszpl/Zenith_ZBIOS MFM-300 Monitor

Reply 14 of 15, by naujoks

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So this CPU is probably locked then?