I see what looks like a crack in the lower-right corner of the CPU die of that 2800+.
Might want to investigate further on that before purchasing a board for it. High chance it's dead, IMO.

momaka wrote on 2024-06-25, 01:20:

I see what looks like a crack in the lower-right corner of the CPU die of that 2800+.
Might want to investigate further on that before purchasing a board for it. High chance it's dead, IMO.

🤣, that was just a piece of hair or lint; there were no cracks on the die.

Asus doesn't have 12v header on most socket a boards which is make it bit useless . I'd stick with any other brand witch does have 12v header it will avoid burn 5v pins on atx header

Most KT880 boards have the +12V cpu connector. Asus only the A7V600-F, KT600 chipset. Not even the Asus A7V880 has it.

As ciornyi said, i.e. the nForce2 based A7N8X-E Deluxe doesn't have it and relies heavily on the +5V rail.

That's not a bad thing per se, but keep it in mind when overclocking for instance.

As far as i remember, Abit NF7 (or NF7 S) was the best motherboard at the beginning of 2000's! I remember i overclocked XP2500 mobile on this board to 2600MHz (from 1800 stock), but with 12cm fan on a biiiig cooler 😀 , self made of course! Fantastic board with fantastic BIOS.... You should try....

PD2JK wrote on 2024-06-25, 07:18:

Most KT880 boards have the +12V cpu connector. Asus only the A7V600-F, KT600 chipset. Not even the Asus A7V880 has it.

As ciornyi said, i.e. the nForce2 based A7N8X-E Deluxe doesn't have it and relies heavily on the +5V rail.

That's not a bad thing per se, but keep it in mind when overclocking for instance.

Back in a day I had a7n8x-e deluxe paired with athlon 2600+ or semptron don't remember exactly . So without any overclock 5v pins on atx connector burned a bit . Not melted but got yellow and brown shades on plastic.

I was one of the people who had one with a pretty burnt header. It did come with a sturdy PSU (Enermax if my memory serves me right) but still.

As for the topic's question - go for a nForce 2 board. EpoX EP-8RDA6+, ABIT NF7/NF7-S v2.0, Soltek SL-75FRN2-RL , DFI Lanparty nF2 and MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR would be the top choices to go with. I personally owned the EpoX, still have the ABIT, Soltek and MSI boards, and they're magnificent overclockers. MSI is a bit on the lower end of the OC side, but EpoX, Soltek and ABIT are some great OCers to pick from. The ABIT NF7 I have runs a 2500+ @ 2.3GHz, quite a bit (no pun intended) past the standard 3200+ speeds, without any issues.

Shuttle FN45 in a https://archive.shuttle.eu/2004/en/sn45g.htm

While the FN45 looks cool... my main concern would be the PSU being a bit on the weak side in both the original FN45 and FN45v2.

PcBytes wrote on 2024-06-25, 16:47:

While the FN45 looks cool... my main concern would be the PSU being a bit on the weak side in both the original FN45 and FN45v2.

Right. I get the feeling that the designers expected most people to use the integrated VGA or maybe an AGP TV tuner. Heat and power would be an issue with many of the more powerful AGP cards.

Wait a second. Are you also trying to use this free CPU as an excuse to buy a high end AGP card too? If that's the case, go for something bigger!

With the 2800+ you want the nf2 chipset if speed it is what You're after. Pair it with a Gf5700 or better / ati 9600 or better, het pc3200 cl2 ram and you're good to go.

Personally I'd settle with any chipset thats more than half decent: both Via and SiS have some pretty capable chipsets to widen your scope.
For example, my Biostar board has nf2 and ati 9800 and its fast. It has a an Enermax psu that can deliver 45A on 5v so is up to the real.
I also have a PC Chips M810 board that performs a lot slower with its SiS 730 chipset. But its perfectly stable and is just as fun to toy around with (and less of a loss if I break it).
If I need more speed, I'll boot up my Xeon E3 computer...

Thanks, everyone, for the advice; I just may look into an NF2 chipset. So what's the deal with the 12 volt header and burning 5 volt pins?

A fast or overclocked CPU draws a lot of power, the ATX connector isn't designed for this. Bad quality connectors can go up in smoke.

Therefore the 4 pin 12V comes in to offload the 5V rail.

I have a pair of ECS KT600 socket A boards and they ran my Sempron 3300 / Athlon XP 3200 (same die) very nicely. Stable, and was able to OC it to 2350MHz.

gryffinwings wrote on 2024-06-25, 03:11:

🤣, that was just a piece of hair or lint; there were no cracks on the die.

Ah, OK, glad to hear that! 😀
So any progress on this build?

gryffinwings wrote on 2024-06-25, 22:34:

Thanks, everyone, for the advice; I just may look into an NF2 chipset. So what's the deal with the 12 volt header and burning 5 volt pins?

A motherboard with a 4-pin 12V header is easier to run with a new(er) PSU, since most of the power draw will be from the 12V rail. Thus no need for a strong 5V rail.
As for the ATX connector 5V pins burning - I've never had that happen to me, though I have seen pictures of it. I think it's just down to shoddy quality PSUs and/or connectors and especially accelerated if there are bad capacitors on the motherboard or in the PSU, since large ripple currents may start passing through the cable.

momaka wrote on 2024-07-10, 15:38:

Ah, OK, glad to hear that! :) So any progress on this build? […]
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gryffinwings wrote on 2024-06-25, 03:11:

🤣, that was just a piece of hair or lint; there were no cracks on the die.

Ah, OK, glad to hear that! 😀
So any progress on this build?

gryffinwings wrote on 2024-06-25, 22:34:

Thanks, everyone, for the advice; I just may look into an NF2 chipset. So what's the deal with the 12 volt header and burning 5 volt pins?

A motherboard with a 4-pin 12V header is easier to run with a new(er) PSU, since most of the power draw will be from the 12V rail. Thus no need for a strong 5V rail.
As for the ATX connector 5V pins burning - I've never had that happen to me, though I have seen pictures of it. I think it's just down to shoddy quality PSUs and/or connectors and especially accelerated if there are bad capacitors on the motherboard or in the PSU, since large ripple currents may start passing through the cable.

No luck on the build currently, the Asus A7V133 build I'm doing with an Athlon 1000 MHz CPU is not booting, I get no video, no beeps, and no codes on a PC analyzer card, I'll have to figure out what is keeping it from working, the power LED is lit on the board and the fans are working, but no POST and no Boot. So I think the board has an issue; I might have to get a replacement board until I can troubleshoot this one further, although I've heard that these were problematic boards to begin with.