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First post, by Vic Zarratt

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Got this to add a gameport/midi interface to my Toshiba 460cdt.
Since I'm just the sort of happy-go-lucky bloke who would walk into this type of problem, it came without its original key and it's last owner left it in the locked position, so I can't fit my laptop onto it.

My questions are for those familiar with this specific docking station and happen to be:
1. Do these use a very standard/generic noteworthy/Kensington key? Or something else with a less common tooth configuration? I have little-to-none experience with these security devices.

2. If the latter, is there any reliable seller of such keys?

3. Since i'm not interested in locksports, I've little inclination to shell-out for a lockpick set, but I may try to bend some wire instead to pick this lock if a replacement key is unobtainable.

4. In the case if no.3 however, I would need a photo of the original key.

Thank you for your considerations .

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Reply 1 of 13, by gilly76

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Do you think the keys are universal? If so, I just found mine and I have a pair of keys. One option you have is to drill out the lock. If you don't want to be destructive, and you live in the US, shoot me your info and i'll toss one of my extras into the mail. Once unlocked, i'd appreciate it if you return the key (or if it doesn't work).

I also got mine for the gameport so I could connect my MT-32 to it... but then just got a Gateway Pentium-75 desktop for that!

Reply 2 of 13, by BitWrangler

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Looks like it might be a common lock cylinder mechanism, would be worth trying any keys with that profile you can scrape up, maybe briefcase keys or cash drawer keys. Sometimes you don't even need the exact key, but one that goes in, and has a "pointy bit at the front" there's a right word for it but can't fish it out of brain, anyway, if you kinda lift or slightly twist the key while inserting it, you might feel a series of bumps and it's basically raking the lock and popping the levers, so it might then turn.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 3 of 13, by darry

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gilly76 wrote on 2024-06-27, 01:42:

Do you think the keys are universal? If so, I just found mine and I have a pair of keys. One option you have is to drill out the lock. If you don't want to be destructive, and you live in the US, shoot me your info and i'll toss one of my extras into the mail. Once unlocked, i'd appreciate it if you return the key (or if it doesn't work).

I also got mine for the gameport so I could connect my MT-32 to it... but then just got a Gateway Pentium-75 desktop for that!

Having a duplicate made and shipping it only one way might be more cost effective.

Reply 4 of 13, by Vic Zarratt

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gilly76 wrote on 2024-06-27, 01:42:

Do you think the keys are universal? If so, I just found mine and I have a pair of keys. One option you have is to drill out the lock. If you don't want to be destructive, and you live in the US, shoot me your info and i'll toss one of my extras into the mail. Once unlocked, i'd appreciate it if you return the key (or if it doesn't work)

Thanks, unfortunately I'm on the other side of the pond - the UK.
I have also tried about 60 - odd different keys from cars, lockers, doors, caddies - you may name them all and can say that none fit.

Rather than drill, I decided to get out the screw driver and disassemble the station. This actually wasn't all too difficult as from there I could disassemble the barrel lock and reset it - will post my video on how to do it soon 😀

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Reply 5 of 13, by Thermalwrong

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gilly76 wrote on 2024-06-27, 01:42:

Do you think the keys are universal? If so, I just found mine and I have a pair of keys. One option you have is to drill out the lock. If you don't want to be destructive, and you live in the US, shoot me your info and i'll toss one of my extras into the mail. Once unlocked, i'd appreciate it if you return the key (or if it doesn't work).

I also got mine for the gameport so I could connect my MT-32 to it... but then just got a Gateway Pentium-75 desktop for that!

The number stamped on the lock face would likely need to match. Mine has NO23 printed on it while Vic's is NO31, if I had a key for mine it likely wouldn't work.

However there's another way, the locking mechanism in this particular Toshiba dock is extremely limited in what it does and isn't secured in - for comparison I had to bypass the lock on a Thinkpad 600 dock and nearly broke it trying to open it while the lock was engaged. On this PA2717, simply remove the screws and pull away the top cover.

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Reply 6 of 13, by Vic Zarratt

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My comprehensive tutorial on disassembly is now here:
https://youtu.be/jog2U7-7124
In addition to what Thermalwrong has posted on the subject, I decided to disassemble the barrel lock as well, instead of just taping the peg away. I did this to reset it to the unlocked position which makes it fully operational as intended.

Again, thank you all

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Reply 7 of 13, by gilly76

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Mine is N07, so I guess it wouldn't have worked!

Thermalwrong wrote on 2024-06-27, 11:23:
The number stamped on the lock face would likely need to match. Mine has NO23 printed on it while Vic's is NO31, if I had a key […]
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gilly76 wrote on 2024-06-27, 01:42:

Do you think the keys are universal? If so, I just found mine and I have a pair of keys. One option you have is to drill out the lock. If you don't want to be destructive, and you live in the US, shoot me your info and i'll toss one of my extras into the mail. Once unlocked, i'd appreciate it if you return the key (or if it doesn't work).

I also got mine for the gameport so I could connect my MT-32 to it... but then just got a Gateway Pentium-75 desktop for that!

The number stamped on the lock face would likely need to match. Mine has NO23 printed on it while Vic's is NO31, if I had a key for mine it likely wouldn't work.

However there's another way, the locking mechanism in this particular Toshiba dock is extremely limited in what it does and isn't secured in - for comparison I had to bypass the lock on a Thinkpad 600 dock and nearly broke it trying to open it while the lock was engaged. On this PA2717, simply remove the screws and pull away the top cover.

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Thermalwrong wrote on 2024-06-27, 11:23:
The number stamped on the lock face would likely need to match. Mine has NO23 printed on it while Vic's is NO31, if I had a key […]
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gilly76 wrote on 2024-06-27, 01:42:

Do you think the keys are universal? If so, I just found mine and I have a pair of keys. One option you have is to drill out the lock. If you don't want to be destructive, and you live in the US, shoot me your info and i'll toss one of my extras into the mail. Once unlocked, i'd appreciate it if you return the key (or if it doesn't work).

I also got mine for the gameport so I could connect my MT-32 to it... but then just got a Gateway Pentium-75 desktop for that!

The number stamped on the lock face would likely need to match. Mine has NO23 printed on it while Vic's is NO31, if I had a key for mine it likely wouldn't work.

However there's another way, the locking mechanism in this particular Toshiba dock is extremely limited in what it does and isn't secured in - for comparison I had to bypass the lock on a Thinkpad 600 dock and nearly broke it trying to open it while the lock was engaged. On this PA2717, simply remove the screws and pull away the top cover.
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PA2717-lock-disable5.JPG

Reply 8 of 13, by Vic Zarratt

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gilly76 wrote on 2024-06-28, 00:33:

Mine is N07, so I guess it wouldn't have worked!

Interesting! I wonder what the chance ratio is when finding two of these port replicators with the same lock number?

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Reply 9 of 13, by BitWrangler

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Depends how high the range goes, but at the minute it sounds like the birthday problem thing.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 10 of 13, by Vic Zarratt

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BitWrangler wrote on 2024-06-28, 02:43:

Depends how high the range goes

True.
For the most part we have question 1 answered in which the Keys for this are not all too generic, as buying some 30-odd keys listed as "replacements for Toshiba port replicator III" would not guarantee a working replacement, given that random duplicates are thrown in as well.

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Reply 11 of 13, by Pierre32

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Some great resources collated in this thread now. Nice work all.

I'll be back with photos of a lock that is preventing me from removing a classic Compaq system from a table at work.

Reply 12 of 13, by Vic Zarratt

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Pierre32 wrote on 2024-06-29, 02:01:

Some great resources collated in this thread now. Nice work all.

I'll be back with photos of a lock that is preventing me from removing a classic Compaq system from a table at work.

I would be interested to know how you are getting on with this compaq situation

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Reply 13 of 13, by Thermalwrong

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Vic Zarratt wrote on 2024-06-27, 19:07:
My comprehensive tutorial on disassembly is now here: https://youtu.be/jog2U7-7124 In addition to what Thermalwrong has posted o […]
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My comprehensive tutorial on disassembly is now here:
https://youtu.be/jog2U7-7124
In addition to what Thermalwrong has posted on the subject, I decided to disassemble the barrel lock as well, instead of just taping the peg away. I did this to reset it to the unlocked position which makes it fully operational as intended.

Again, thank you all

I've just got around to watching your video - removing the circlip to simply rotate the lock barrel in the housing to the desired position then putting it back together is really the tidier method 😀