First post, by CC-Adam
Noticed an LGA 1700 motherboard on eBay branded Abit, are they back? Nothing seems to have changed on the abit.com.tw domain from what I can tell.
Noticed an LGA 1700 motherboard on eBay branded Abit, are they back? Nothing seems to have changed on the abit.com.tw domain from what I can tell.
Very unlikely. My comment to RandomGaminginHD's video two weeks ago:
Unfortunately Abit was destroyed by its own chairman 盧翊存 (promoted in 1997 from marketing; not one of the founders) 20 years ago by forging its financial reports. Due to slow progress of lawsuits, he is able to create shell companies one after another, hoarding billions of illicit investments. He is still at large as late as 2022.
Lu (盧翊存) started creating fraudulent financial records in 2003 after Abit lost NT$ 2 billions in 2002 due to faulty capacitors. In December 2004, Taiwan Stock Exchange smelled Abit's NT$ 18 billions transaction with a Singaporean (paper) company "Kobian" very fishy and ordered Abit to present transaction records, who failed to comply, resulting Abit's downgrade to full-cash delivery stock. After 29 months of investigation, prosecutors charged Lu with asset stripping and tunneling and indicted Lu for 20 years plus NT$ 500 millions of fine. Taiwan High Court sentenced Lu 11 years in 2014 but he appealed to the Supreme Court; in the mean time he could stay away from prison with bail.
Even two years before the 2014 sentence, Lu already stripped another company 映相科技 with 10 overseas paper companies and tunneled NT$ 200 millions. In May 2019, he started another company named "SmartLife," making "smart beer machines" for restaurants to rent, attracted more than 200 investors and over NT$ 60 millions, unaware of the "company" was only a Ponzi scheme. In January 2022 SmartLife suddenly declared bankruptcy with Lu and other senior managements cutting off all contacts with investors; turned out three paper companies already tunneled out all investments.
The most recent record of Lu was an 167-page verdict by Taiwan High Court on March 30, 2023. He is likely still at large at this moment.
References (in date order, from old to new):
https://www.businesstoday.com.tw/article/cate … t/200409020040/
https://www.businessweekly.com.tw/Archive/Art … cle?StrId=27291
https://news.ltn.com.tw/news/society/breakingnews/1738925
https://www.chinatimes.com/newspapers/20160624000192-260205
https://news.ltn.com.tw/news/society/breakingnews/1745404
https://yesally.com.tw/list_in.php?ID=1410
https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=747&t=6535733
https://www.ctwant.com/article/168850
https://www.ctwant.com/article/168852
Yeah, most of those old companies (SoYo, ABIT, etc) are long dead and modern offerings have nothing to do with them.
I must be some kind of standard: the anonymous gangbanger of the 21st century.
盧翊存…this guy is amazing. Keeps scamming people but never goes to prison. I really enjoyed reading the story about Abit. Too many computer companies end like this. Any details about DTK?
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Seems so (at least in name!)...https://www.techpowerup.com/309957/abit-unvei … 700-motherboard
Anonymous Coward wrote on 2024-07-21, 00:03:盧翊存…this guy is amazing. Keeps scamming people but never goes to prison.
We all know that Taiwan is THE heaven of scammers. 😁
Anonymous Coward wrote on 2024-07-21, 00:03:Any details about DTK?
Its biggest problem was being too ambitious due to its early success: its revenue doubles EVERY YEAR for almost a decade; overexpansion resulted in QA issues, while investments on chipsets proved to be far more expensive than expected. More of its history can be found here:
https://www.cw.com.tw/article/5038476
https://www.bnext.com.tw/article/59423/arcade-game-to-pc
https://wantrich.chinatimes.com/news/20230727900548-420101
(The latter two were by the same author though)
My second computer and first PC-compatible was a DTK 80386DX in 1990, probably based on a PEM-2035 motherboard; I was only certain that it had four SIPP RAM sockets. My first computer, an Apple IIe clone (I remembered this because it could input lowercase letters) in 1984 that had a PC-like beige desktop case and a separate keyboard with Model F layout but with two small red lamps on Caps Lock and Num Lock, was probably made by DTK as well. Its aura started fading in the 486 era and went into obscurity in the following Pentium era.
PC Hoarder Patrol wrote on 2024-07-21, 00:54:Seems so (at least in name!)...https://www.techpowerup.com/309957/abit-unvei … 700-motherboard
It's more like Kodak selling portable photo printers and toy cameras nowadays. At least not as bad as Yashica Y35. 🙄
Similar to Epox - Supox - and long time agony...
CC-Adam wrote on 2024-07-20, 20:21:... Nothing seems to have changed on the abit.com.tw domain from what I can tell.
This is NOT the original/official ABIT website!!! ABIT (later spelled abit) has gone (unfortunately)!
abit.com.tw has been shut down ~10 years ago. This caused me (being a ABIT fan myself) to save all the latest BIOSes including the complete changelogs shortly before the website went offline and to create the ABIT page on my website (-> https://soggi.org/motherboards/abit.htm). A bit later someone hosted a scraped copy of the ABIT website on abit.ws with defective downloads. This was the state of the last ~decade.
Some weeks or months ago abit.com.tw turned up again in SERPs (search engine result pages)... I was wondering why. A short look-up showed that abit.ws isn't available anymore and a file download check told me that the website on abit.com.tw is the same scraped version as it has been on abit.ws. Conclusion: The person who operated the latter came in possession of the domain abit.com.tw. This is a great move for a website operator, gaining millions (if not many more) of links from trustful high quality domains/websites with just a snap of the fingers.
Just in case anybody else also was wondering if ABIT (abit) could be back.
kind regards
soggi
Vintage BIOSes, firmware, drivers, tools, manuals and (3dfx) game patches -> soggi's BIOS & Firmware Page
soggi.org on Twitter - inactive at the moment
Techpowerup includes a note at https://www.techpowerup.com/309957/abit-unvei … 700-motherboard
"If it feels like you've seen a ghost, it's because Abit withdrew from the DIY PC component space around 2012, after fulfilling its support obligations for the last of its products shipped in 2008. Since then, the brand has been held by Universal Scientific Industrial, a mainland Chinese company that took it over from the original Taiwan-based Abit Computer."
An addition from the comments below:
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/posts/5038289 wrote:Not the same Abit. ABIT Computer Corporation closed in 2008/09 - this company here is Universal Abit Co. LTD - They are owned by USi (Universal Scientific Industrial) - a China based company. very little in common with the old brand that was established in Taiwan.
kind regards
soggi
Vintage BIOSes, firmware, drivers, tools, manuals and (3dfx) game patches -> soggi's BIOS & Firmware Page
soggi.org on Twitter - inactive at the moment
Wow sounds like this would make a great plot to a film, quite the story! It's a shame I've had some really great ABIT boards, my first ever build was a BM6 with such a great overclock on a celeron 333. I threw away this machine, one of my biggest mistakes! 😭
Loved Epox too, built loads of great socket A systems.
Don't feel totally happy with anything current these days, although ASRock are probably my favourite if I had to pick one, they have some interesting boards.
Is is extremely unlikely that Abit will ever come back in business, that guy that who took millions of dollars from the company should burn in hell! He destroyed one of the best hardware firm!
For me Abit still lives on; I got 95% of all ATX boards, video cards and specialty items that Abit ever manufactured and sold so I am set for the rest of my life 😀
nd22 wrote on 2024-08-01, 09:09:Is is extremely unlikely that Abit will ever come back in business, that guy that who took millions of dollars from the company should burn in hell! He destroyed one of the best hardware firm!
Meh, like too many other brands they fell into the cheap Taiwanese capacitor trap. 'One of the best' brands would have stuck with quality Nichicons or Panasonics. It's notable that there were a few that did - Intel's OEM boards and a lot of Asus and Gigabyte boards were far less affected by the capacitor plague. Like Epox, Abit had some really innovative designs, but played fast and loose with component quality and paid the price. The CEO didn't destroy the firm with his fraud, that was just him trying to cover up the fact it had already been destroyed by taking the risk of untested cheap caps and losing the gamble.
I treasure my BP6, but not its original caps.
My BP6 and BE6-II are both polymodded.
ABIT had some real bad cap choices and their RMA'd set of caps showed they learnt nothing from MSI getting bit in the a$$ by Teapo crapacitors.
Thank god the NF7 era onwards brought Rubycon to the table. A shame they dipped into rebranding ECS boards as well. KV-85 is made by ECS for example.
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CC-Adam wrote on 2024-07-21, 21:59:Wow sounds like this would make a great plot to a film, quite the story!
I agree, especially with past examples like Rogue Trader and The Wolf of Wall Street. It might take a REALLY long time before his ongoing cases receive res judicata from the Supreme Court, however, and I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the final verdict. 🙄
Not to mention that very few film producers know about tech industries.
I guess we could say that it's mostly gone, but that it tried to come back "a bit".
darry wrote on 2024-08-01, 21:12:I guess we could say that it's mostly gone, but that it tried to come back "a bit".
Sounds very much like what Q (Whishaw) said to 007 (Craig). 😉
Thank you Darry, sums it up perfectly!
Maybe the film could be called: ABIT of a Rogue Wolf of Taiwan or something along those lines?
Even though they are not real ABIT motherboards, it's still kind of nice to see the name, but I won't be buying one! Not that you'd want any socket 1700 motherboard, the CPU's are now plagued just like the cheap old caps! Haha.
nd22 wrote on 2024-08-01, 09:09:Is is extremely unlikely that Abit will ever come back in business, that guy that who took millions of dollars from the company should burn in hell! He destroyed one of the best hardware firm!
For me Abit still lives on; I got 95% of all ATX boards, video cards and specialty items that Abit ever manufactured and sold so I am set for the rest of my life 😀
I agree, glad to see lots of ABIT fans in here, I do have a few ABIT boards myself. My first ever build using an ABIT BM6 saved me a fortune letting me play Unreal smoothly on a cheap overclocked Celeron 333, left a lasting feeling in my heart!
This would be my collection, no pics since I don't feel really well atm....
1. ABIT BE6-II HPT366 + P3 1000B SL5DV 1GHz - the ultimate 133FSB BX board
2. ABIT BP6 + 2x Celeron 333MHz + 768MB SDR - true behemoth of a board!
3. ABIT VP6 - on the backlog until I can get hold of a desoldering gun, the 2nd socket needs replacement. Otherwise POSTs and has a badcaps dot net custom BIOS 😀
4. ABIT NF7 + Athlon XP 2500+ OC'd to 2.3GHz + 2GB DDR400
5. ABIT NF7-S + Athlon XP-M 2400+ stock + 1.5GB DDR400
6. ABIT IS7-E + Pentium 4 HT 2.8GHz (Northwood) + 2GB DDR400 (4x512)
7. ABIT IP35 Pro XE + Core 2 Duo E8500 + 8GB Zeppelin DDR2-800
Still looking for a BX133-RAID or BH6 that won't break my wallet locally since eBay prices are downright atrocious.
And that's about it
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