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First post, by PcBytes

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Figured I'd list a few of the builds I've slowly managed to comprise over the time I've been recovering from severe heatstroke symptoms.

(Re)build I - "Laplus Deskstar 2.0"

PSU: MS industrial KY-400ATX (recapped)
MB: ASUS CUSL2 w/ onboard sound
CPU: P3 1000EB SL52R
HDD1: IBM Deskstar 34GXP 13.6GB, DPTA-371360 (one of the few non-plagued Deskstars that use metal platters)
HDD2: Maxtor Fireball III 40GB 2F040L0
GPU: Medion Geforce 4 Ti4200 128MB
LAN: Realtek RTL8139C
Audio: SB Audigy LS
RAM:512MB
OS: Windows 2000 Pro SP4

Build II - Tenfold Screamer

MB: MSI 694D Pro-AR
CPU: 2x P3 1000 EB SL52R + Titan coolers
HDD1: 80GB Excelstor ATA133
HDD2: Seagate Cheetah 10K ST336607LW
HDD3: Seagate Cheetah 10K ST336607LW (yes, I managed to get a 2nd one!)
GPU: Gecube Radeon 9600 Pro 128MB AGP
LAN: Realtek RTL8169SC Gigabit
Audio: SB Live 5.1 Digital SB0220 Dell OEM
PSU: Seasonic 400W
RAM: 1.5GB
Case: JNC RJA-52 "Emperor"
USB: NEC USB2.0
ODD: Samsung SH-S182D Burner
SCSI: Adaptec AHA-2940UW
OS: XP SP3

Build III - Gremlin

PSU: JNC LC-200C (recapped and rebuilt)
MB: Luckystar 6BXC w/ BIOS patch
CPU: P3 Katmai 500MHz
HDD: WD Caviar AC26400
GPU: Riva TNT2 M64 32MB (Sparkle SP5300)
LAN: RTL8139C
Audio: S3 Sonic Vibes 86C617
RAM: 256MB
USB: ALi USB2.0
OS: Windows 98 SE

(Re)build IV - Chomper

Case: CSX-917 (AT, manufactured by Deer/JNC)
PSU: rebuilt ASTI LC-200C 200W
Mobo: SYE-Luckytech P5MVP3 rev1.3
ODD: Samsung SH-S182D DVDRW
LAN: RTL8139D
Offboard ATA100: Promise Ultra100 TX2 + 160GB WD Caviar SE
Onboard ATA: Quantum Fireball lct20 20.4GB
GPU: MSI Geforce 2 Pro 64MB
RAM: 2x128MB PC-133 SDR
USB: VIA PCI USB card (makes sense since I run a VIA MVP3 chipset...)
Audio: Yamaha YMF-719 OPL3-SAx ISA soundcard
OS: 98SE reinstall + 160GB reformatted for storage

That's all for now. I'll be trying to get a hold of some photos of build 4 and 2 soon, hopefully. I have a few more planned - 865 based Cedar Mill, Shuttle/ECS (tehnically Shuttle going by the BIOS) KT133A based, ABIT bonanza w/ BE6-II and a NF7-S v2.0 w/ Taipan BIOS.

"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB

Reply 2 of 8, by Disruptor

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Well, I've got a Seagate ST336607LW too but also a Seagate ST318451LW, however your "Tenfold Screamer" seems to have an underperforming SCSI controller for that kind of disks.
Your Adaptec 2940UW does not support LVD SCSI, so you're stuck to 40 MB/s from SE (Single Ended) SCSI.
And you need a SE terminator too for your bus because a ST336607LW does not provide termination.

Instead I'd recommend you to use an Adaptec 19160 or 2940U2W.
If it is easier to find for you, you may try Adaptec 29160 or 29160LP too. Although they are PCI-X and your dual processor mainboard is not that cards run well in 32 bit PCI slots too.
However, you still need a twisted pair SCSI cable with a LVD terminator.

Reply 3 of 8, by PcBytes

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The cable I have on that SCSI controller has only three plugs. Two go into the Seagates and the third (a bit obvious) goes into the controller. Akin to a standard IDE cable, if you will.

As for finding LVD terminated cables and a different controller... no go unfortunately. Not that the drives I used might be any faster since they both are different speeds. The older and noisier drive (HDD2) is rated Ultra320, while the NOS drive used for HDD3 claims Ultra160 despite being the exact same model.

"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB

Reply 4 of 8, by Disruptor

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PcBytes wrote on 2024-08-04, 02:53:

The cable I have on that SCSI controller has only three plugs. Two go into the Seagates and the third (a bit obvious) goes into the controller. Akin to a standard IDE cable, if you will.

As for finding LVD terminated cables and a different controller... no go unfortunately. Not that the drives I used might be any faster since they both are different speeds. The older and noisier drive (HDD2) is rated Ultra320, while the NOS drive used for HDD3 claims Ultra160 despite being the exact same model.

Interesting. Can you post pictures of them please? (top + bottom side)

It is obviousely your controller terminates one side of the cable/bus.
But how do you terminate your SCSI cable at the drive side then?

If it has a terminator, may you post a picture of your SCSI cable please?

Reply 5 of 8, by PcBytes

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Disruptor wrote on 2024-08-04, 07:41:
Interesting. Can you post pictures of them please? (top + bottom side) […]
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PcBytes wrote on 2024-08-04, 02:53:

The cable I have on that SCSI controller has only three plugs. Two go into the Seagates and the third (a bit obvious) goes into the controller. Akin to a standard IDE cable, if you will.

As for finding LVD terminated cables and a different controller... no go unfortunately. Not that the drives I used might be any faster since they both are different speeds. The older and noisier drive (HDD2) is rated Ultra320, while the NOS drive used for HDD3 claims Ultra160 despite being the exact same model.

Interesting. Can you post pictures of them please? (top + bottom side)

It is obviousely your controller terminates one side of the cable/bus.
But how do you terminate your SCSI cable at the drive side then?

If it has a terminator, may you post a picture of your SCSI cable please?

Unfortunately this is the best picture I can give, since I currently don't have much access to the unit at the moment. But to explain it as short as possible - the same connector you see in the previous photo that goes into the controller is present on the hard drives side.

file.php?mode=view&id=198529

To further explain it, look at the cable down below. My cable's connectors are exactly similar to it, except the rest of the cable isn't coloured like DataPro's cable. It's plain white, reads IOI and has only two (three if you count the controller end) of those 68pin "channels".

file.php?mode=view&id=198530

"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB

Reply 6 of 8, by Disruptor

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So your Ultra (!) SCSI bus is unterminated at one end.

Reply 7 of 8, by PcBytes

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Although it's probably the same thing (one end is unterminated), I finally found a picture of the exact cable I use. The only small difference is mine has a IOI paper handle on the controller end.

file.php?mode=view&id=198542

Anyways, I'm not exactly seeing any slow operation or such. The drives seem fast enough as they are at the moment.

"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB

Reply 8 of 8, by Disruptor

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Fine, that's what I was looking for.
I hope the end connector of the connectors with the short distance has the termination then.

The Adaptec 2940U2W and above will tell you about termination faults, the 2940UW not.