A nice LS120 Parallel setup which can be used with a parallel to USB adapter I have, will give me another way to shift files to my DOS/95 based PCs from my main PC. I could use a network but ... meh I just cannot be arsed with network crap for DOS machines. (Its fair to call me lazy for that but I hate DOS networking)
and this little GT430 PCI which is IIRC one of the fastest PCI GPUs released and likely the last PCI GPU based on a full nVidia GPU, its not great for retro gaming but I have a few PCI-X boards that I want to use this with that dont sport AGP slots which itll be perfect for.
it was surprisingly difficult to source one of these, the few I have seen previously went for crazy amounts but this one I snagged at a nice BIN price.
-I know there were later PCI models the 510, 610 and 710 but they are all refreshes of a truly gimped gpu and they all deserve to be forgotten for the abominations they were.
A nice LS120 Parallel setup which can be used with a parallel to USB adapter I have, will give me another way to shift files to my DOS/95 based PCs from my main PC. I could use a network but ... meh I just cannot be arsed with network crap for DOS machines. (Its fair to call me lazy for that but I hate DOS networking)
and this little GT430 PCI which is IIRC one of the fastest PCI GPUs released and likely the last PCI GPU based on a full nVidia GPU, its not great for retro gaming but I have a few PCI-X boards that I want to use this with that dont sport AGP slots which itll be perfect for.
it was surprisingly difficult to source one of these, the few I have seen previously went for crazy amounts but this one I snagged at a nice BIN price.
-I know there were later PCI models the 510, 610 and 710 but they are all refreshes of a truly gimped gpu and they all deserve to be forgotten for the abominations they were.
I have at least 1 of the 430s and the 610. If I remember correctly, the 610 is just a relabeled 430.
The 710 PCIe I've got is not a 610 relabel, it's got 192 shaders so might be possible that 710 PCI 32 bits are worth having, but read the specs of each card carefully, budget GPU are a minefield for using multiple different gpu versions from a spread of generations.
Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.
A nice LS120 Parallel setup which can be used with a parallel to USB adapter I have, will give me another way to shift files to my DOS/95 based PCs from my main PC. I could use a network but ... meh I just cannot be arsed with network crap for DOS machines. (Its fair to call me lazy for that but I hate DOS networking)
and this little GT430 PCI which is IIRC one of the fastest PCI GPUs released and likely the last PCI GPU based on a full nVidia GPU, its not great for retro gaming but I have a few PCI-X boards that I want to use this with that dont sport AGP slots which itll be perfect for.
it was surprisingly difficult to source one of these, the few I have seen previously went for crazy amounts but this one I snagged at a nice BIN price.
-I know there were later PCI models the 510, 610 and 710 but they are all refreshes of a truly gimped gpu and they all deserve to be forgotten for the abominations they were.
I have at least 1 of the 430s and the 610. If I remember correctly, the 610 is just a relabeled 430.
Some 610 are worse though, only 48 shaders, half the oomph.
Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.
A nice LS120 Parallel setup which can be used with a parallel to USB adapter I have, will give me another way to shift files to my DOS/95 based PCs from my main PC. I could use a network but ... meh I just cannot be arsed with network crap for DOS machines. (Its fair to call me lazy for that but I hate DOS networking)
and this little GT430 PCI which is IIRC one of the fastest PCI GPUs released and likely the last PCI GPU based on a full nVidia GPU, its not great for retro gaming but I have a few PCI-X boards that I want to use this with that dont sport AGP slots which itll be perfect for.
it was surprisingly difficult to source one of these, the few I have seen previously went for crazy amounts but this one I snagged at a nice BIN price.
-I know there were later PCI models the 510, 610 and 710 but they are all refreshes of a truly gimped gpu and they all deserve to be forgotten for the abominations they were.
I have at least 1 of the 430s and the 610. If I remember correctly, the 610 is just a relabeled 430.
The GT 610 normally just uses the same GF119 Fermi core as the GT 520, with the same exact clocks and everything. The 430's GF108 is a little older but is much faster than both with slightly more focus on gaming performance, though some cards are severely neutered and are worse than they should be.
The GT710 is normally a Kepler based GK208 which is a lot faster than the GF119 and seems to perform closer to the 430, despite being a much smaller "entry level" card.
Sadly, it seems like the GT620 is always either a GF119 or GF108, and it's possible to get a GF119 based GT710 or even a GF108 based GT730, so it's all just a roll of the dice unless you can make 100% sure of what you're getting somehow. The Kepler cards are much much better than the Fermi ones at least, if you can find them.
A nice LS120 Parallel setup which can be used with a parallel to USB adapter I have, will give me another way to shift files to my DOS/95 based PCs from my main PC. I could use a network but ... meh I just cannot be arsed with network crap for DOS machines. (Its fair to call me lazy for that but I hate DOS networking)
and this little GT430 PCI which is IIRC one of the fastest PCI GPUs released and likely the last PCI GPU based on a full nVidia GPU, its not great for retro gaming but I have a few PCI-X boards that I want to use this with that dont sport AGP slots which itll be perfect for.
it was surprisingly difficult to source one of these, the few I have seen previously went for crazy amounts but this one I snagged at a nice BIN price.
-I know there were later PCI models the 510, 610 and 710 but they are all refreshes of a truly gimped gpu and they all deserve to be forgotten for the abominations they were.
I have at least 1 of the 430s and the 610. If I remember correctly, the 610 is just a relabeled 430.
Some 610 are worse though, only 48 shaders, half the oomph.
This is the one I talk about ..you find more of this one than the others in the PCI models.
A nice LS120 Parallel setup which can be used with a parallel to USB adapter I have, will give me another way to shift files to my DOS/95 based PCs from my main PC. I could use a network but ... meh I just cannot be arsed with network crap for DOS machines. (Its fair to call me lazy for that but I hate DOS networking)
and this little GT430 PCI which is IIRC one of the fastest PCI GPUs released and likely the last PCI GPU based on a full nVidia GPU, its not great for retro gaming but I have a few PCI-X boards that I want to use this with that dont sport AGP slots which itll be perfect for.
it was surprisingly difficult to source one of these, the few I have seen previously went for crazy amounts but this one I snagged at a nice BIN price.
-I know there were later PCI models the 510, 610 and 710 but they are all refreshes of a truly gimped gpu and they all deserve to be forgotten for the abominations they were.
I have at least 1 of the 430s and the 610. If I remember correctly, the 610 is just a relabeled 430.
the GT630 is the rebadged 128bit GT430, GT620 cards are also 64bit GT430s. The GT610 is a GT520, the GT730 is also a GT430, so none of the x10 cards are the full GT430 core but rather the cut down half the power core. The GT710 is bad for this as it has 3 different models with three different cores and only one of them is worth looking at but you wont ever know which core you got until you run GPU-Z on it.
Cant remember where I got this list but it helps when looking at GT based PCI GPUs, anything after the GT430 really isnt worth the hit or miss nature of what core you may get .. the 32bit core is utter garbage not even fit as a display output card.
The GeForce 405 card is a rebranded GeForce 310 which itself is a rebranded GeForce 210.
The GeForce 605 (OEM) card is a rebranded GeForce 510.
The GeForce GT 610 card is a rebranded GeForce GT 520.
The GeForce GT 620 (OEM) card is a rebranded GeForce GT 520.
The GeForce GT 620 card is a rebranded GeForce GT 430 (DDR3, 64-bit).
The GeForce GT 630 (DDR3, 128-bit, retail) card is a rebranded GeForce GT 430 (DDR3, 128-bit).
The GeForce GT 705 (OEM) is a rebranded GeForce GT 610, which itself is a rebranded GeForce GT 520.
The GeForce GT 730 (DDR3, 128-bit) is a rebranded GeForce GT 430 (128-bit).
I would have grabbed a 1GB Kepler 710 if I could confirm which 710 I was buying first as its pretty similar to the GT430 and the extra Vram would have been nice but I didnt feel like taking that gamble and getting one of the other two much slower models instead.
This is all PCI though so I dont know how much difference any of this truly makes, nVidia truly made a mess of these low end PCI cards though.
-There is one PCI card I would still love to get and its the mythical unicorn 1Gb GT9500 DDR2 PCI, have never seen one in the wild but have had it confirmed they did exist.
Not always. There are lots of Kepler GT730s and they offer significantly better performance than the other cards at or below this level. As far as I know these will always be 64bit GDDR5 cards. If a GT730 ever says it is 128bit or is DDR3, then it is the Fermi model which is the same thing as a GT630 or GT430, which will make them much hotter and slower.
Nvidia really made a crappy move by allowing board partners to sell them this way. The GT 730 was a great card for people that needed a bit more graphical capabilities than an IGP could provide, so I'm sure they allowed this to fill demand... but it really looked bad, especially during the GPU shortage when we started to see desperate system builders selling entry level gaming PCs with these cards. The Kepler GT 730 would have been underwhelming enough in ~2021... to ship systems with the Fermi models as "gaming" PCs just added fire to the Nvidia hate at that time.
... not that they really care now with all the AI boom $$$...
Ozzuneojwrote on 2024-08-10, 03:12:Not always. There are lots of Kepler GT730s and they offer significantly better performance than the other cards at or below thi […] Show full quote
Not always. There are lots of Kepler GT730s and they offer significantly better performance than the other cards at or below this level. As far as I know these will always be 64bit GDDR5 cards. If a GT730 ever says it is 128bit or is DDR3, then it is the Fermi model which is the same thing as a GT630 or GT430, which will make them much hotter and slower.
Nvidia really made a crappy move by allowing board partners to sell them this way. The GT 730 was a great card for people that needed a bit more graphical capabilities than an IGP could provide, so I'm sure they allowed this to fill demand... but it really looked bad, especially during the GPU shortage when we started to see desperate system builders selling entry level gaming PCs with these cards. The Kepler GT 730 would have been underwhelming enough in ~2021... to ship systems with the Fermi models as "gaming" PCs just added fire to the Nvidia hate at that time.
... not that they really care now with all the AI boom $$$...
Their whole budget range from that era was a mess of rebrands and rebadges, my guess is that they didn't care because they had a huge surplus of the GT430 cores and this setup got rid of them.
As shitty as the practise was I can see why they looked the other way.
Still the PCI GT430 is a nice card to have around for the boards that dont have AGP on them, and the price was certainly right being less than even a 610 or 710 PCI. (the 1GB 610 and 710 PCI still sell for odd amounts considering how terrible they are even as basic GPUs)
Very nice, is the SC88 Pro an upgrade from the SC55 MKII or more of an evolution of it offering more features ?
I'd have to do a test with them both to compare but it seems its more of an evolution since they can sound pretty similar according to the internet.
I've got a regular 88 as well which would be even more similar,
I think apart from maybe a small handful of games that were composed for the 88pro there isn't much of a reason for me to have gotten one.
So probably a bit of an irrational purchase but I felt compelled to get one.
-There is one PCI card I would still love to get and its the mythical unicorn 1Gb GT9500 DDR2 PCI, have never seen one in the wild but have had it confirmed they did exist.
Why is that mythical? Seemed like the only PCI thing around about 12 years ago.
Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.
-There is one PCI card I would still love to get and its the mythical unicorn 1Gb 9500GT DDR2 PCI, have never seen one in the wild but have had it confirmed they did exist.
Why is that mythical? Seemed like the only PCI thing around about 12 years ago.
Yes 12 years ago, likely longer ...now in 2024 ..PCI versions are nothing but *crickets*, its the one card I haven't seen in my travels hunting for rare GPUs.
PCIe .. yup plenty of them .. like cockroaches actually along with the 8400GT and 9400GT. (You can get both of these in PCI with zero effort)
Got for myself backup GF4 Ti 4200 for amazing 15EUR. Well by ebay price standards that is.
Is this card more or less desireable? I can get one (MSI) for exactly the same price you paid excluding shipping (boxed and looks basically brand new). I am not at all knowledgeable of that era Nvidia cards. I know a bit about voodoo cards and the likes and then the ATI range of card from the 9000 series upwards.
If I had to choose, I'd have the 4600Ti. More power is always good 😀 Having both (or everything!) appealed to the hoarder in me for a long time though (my collection barely fits in my small bungalow!)
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Is this card more or less desireable? I can get one (MSI) for exactly the same price you paid excluding shipping (boxed and looks basically brand new). I am not at all knowledgeable of that era Nvidia cards. I know a bit about voodoo cards and the likes and then the ATI range of card from the 9000 series upwards.
Or is the 4600Ti more interesting to have?
A 4600 Ti should be faster, but it depends on what games one is using it with.
If used in a Windows 98 build, the extra performance with a 4600 Ti will be largely irrelevant.
I have a huge problem buying GeForce 4 Cards 🤣 it's a sickness. 15$ for a nice Ti4200 is great.
I bought this beautiful (and way to expensive) Ti 4680XP thinking it was a Ti 4800 with a weird name... Turns out it was a 4200 Turbo card which is actually kinda interesting in its own way.
It needs more testing though as It did get some artifacting after a long testing session. Might be bad drivers though because it only happened on specific textures/scenes.
