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First post, by Anonymous Coward

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I recently bought one of these boards. It came from an IBM PC Server 320. Strangely I cannot seem to get the L2 cache going.
In the BIOS the L2 cache is "enabled", and there are no cache related errors on startup. When I run cachechk and speedsys, it seems the L2 cache is not enabled.
I suspected because this board has a Neptune chipset with slow asynchronous cache that maybe the L2 is not much faster than the main memory and the benchmark utilities can't detect it. However, enabling/disabling the cache in the BIOS has zero effect on benchmark results.
The board has a jumper for a turbo switch. It came with a jumper cap installed. Some systems enable/disable the cache when the turbo switch is toggled, but that does not seem to be the case here. In fact, it seems the switch does absolutely nothing. At least, I was not able to detect any change in system performance.
Then I ran CTCHIP34, which has a CFG for the Neptune. It does not allow me to change the chipset resisters. They seem to be locked. But if the register information it is reporting is correct, then it seems L2 really is disabled.
I suspected a BIOS problem, so I updated to one of the final versions, but it made no difference.
Hardware wise, the only other thing I can think to change is the Dallas RTC which is basically dead and throws up an error. Does the BIOS turn off L2 cache automatically if the Dallas chip is dead? I wouldn't think so, but who knows. I ordered a new one for good measure, but it hasn't arrived yet. I also double checked all the jumpers on the board, and they seem to be in order.

Does anyone own an M54Pe that can confirm that their L2 cache is working?

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Reply 1 of 6, by BitWrangler

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If you swapped the RAM out for FPM with the slackest timing it will let you have, then utils might see a difference.

It's like that on some FX boards with asych cache and EDO, barely measurable to no difference between cache and not.

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Reply 2 of 6, by Anonymous Coward

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The BIOS on this board is from Phoenix and it sucks. There are no options to adjust memory or cache timings.
Furthermore, FPM memory is already installed. I’m pretty sure Neptune doesn’t support EDO.

There exist award BIOSes for similar Neptune boards, so I intend to try them. Unfortunately the BIOS on this board is PLCC so I first need to buy an adapter for my eeprom programmer.

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Reply 3 of 6, by luckybob

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I dont have that exact board, but I have a sinking feeling there might be some sort of configuration that needs to be done with the Eisa.

otherwise I would consult the grey-beard master: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRfcKDfJSao

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Reply 5 of 6, by Anonymous Coward

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I replaced the Dallas chip today. That was all that was needed to get the cache going. This is the first time I've encountered L2 being disabled if the RTC battery is dead. Strange.

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Reply 6 of 6, by Anonymous Coward

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I would also like to add that if you have this board with only 256kb cache and want to upgrade to 512kb, you will need 3.3V SRAM modules.
The manual I have makes no mention of this, only stating that 32kx8 15ns chips are required. The cache already soldered to the board is 3.3V. I tried installing 5V modules, but it resulted in unstable operation.

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