Your link doesnt work.

Theres many ways to do what you want.
I think the easiest way would be to buy a PCIe card that can control the disks. You plug them in and go from there.

I have an Adaptec ASR-5805Z.
Thats a SAS RAID controller. It has an SFF-8087 connector on the controller end and the other end can be one of two connectors depending on what SAS drive you have.
SFF-8482 is the most common one I see, at least it is the connector all my SAS disks have.

I will link to an ebay auction so you can see what the cable looks like, you can buy it from anywhere.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303770606870?var=602998827743

That cable will work with the ASR-5805Z and an enterprise SAS disk. It allows the use of an SATA power connector to power the drive, but there are versions with a molex connector too.

ElectroSoldier wrote on 2024-08-26, 04:39:

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Your link doesnt work.

Theres many ways to do what you want.
I think the easiest way would be to buy a PCIe card that can control the disks. You plug them in and go from there.

I have an Adaptec ASR-5805Z.
Thats a SAS RAID controller. It has an SFF-8087 connector on the controller end and the other end can be one of two connectors depending on what SAS drive you have.
SFF-8482 is the most common one I see, at least it is the connector all my SAS disks have.

I will link to an ebay auction so you can see what the cable looks like, you can buy it from anywhere.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303770606870?var=602998827743

That cable will work with the ASR-5805Z and an enterprise SAS disk. It allows the use of an SATA power connector to power the drive, but there are versions with a molex connector too.

https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-18in-SATA … r/dp/B000V72AQ4

Is the fixed link from the OPs post

I am using a Dell PERC H700 on my system.

The case is a Supermicro Superchassis 733 which has SAS compatible 3.5" drive bays

The card uses these cables to connect to the backplane:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/303868948979

Yeah they will work but you would need a SATA HBA to use those cables.
None of the ones I know of are cheap, in fact they come in double the cost of the Adaptec ASR-5805Z (which should be £30-40).
You wont be able to use the cables you have...
You could if you had something like the Dell PERC 5/i that is intergrated into the Precision 690 workstation.

If you look at the motherboard in the following link you will see the drive connectors on the left side, the SATA are the 3 below the power connector while the SAS connectors are those above. They look the same but arent...
I have similar cables in mine but where you have a molex connector I have an SATA power connector.
https://altatechnologies.com/products/dell-f9394

If you want to use those cables you would need to find a SAS HBA or RAID controller that has the SATA style data connector on it...
Off hand I dont know any addin cards like that. Its not that they are useless, its just that they are not very useful to you.

Youre looking at spending £30-40 on a PCIe card and £15 on a cable.
Of course you would have to learn how to use that PCIe card but that isnt hard at all.

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I am using a Dell PERC H700 on my system.

The case is a Supermicro Superchassis 733 which has SAS compatible 3.5" drive bays

The card uses these cables to connect to the backplane:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/303868948979

Yeah but the cables you use do have the SATA connector but they are on the drive end, where as the cables the OP has are on the controller end.

Many thanks everyone !!
The cables I have are probably not helpful. I did not know that I needed a controller card before I got them. So lets ignore them for now.
The Adaptec ASR-5805Z looks like a good fit. $40usd is reasonable for my needs. But now I need data and power cables for the drives.
I'm going to to be test a lot of drives (100+). so I need something that is fairly easy to plug and unplug a lot (data and power).
Also, do I need drivers for this card in Win 10? Or will the drives just show up in Disk Manager like sata drives?
All the help is very much appreciated !!

I don't know if overheating of the card will be a problem if you're going to be working with the case open

My Dell card gets very hot, which makes me nervous. Even though the case has good airflow, I still mounted a fan above it to keep it cool.

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Many thanks everyone !!
The cables I have are probably not helpful. I did not know that I needed a controller card before I got them. So lets ignore them for now.
The Adaptec ASR-5805Z looks like a good fit. $40usd is reasonable for my needs. But now I need data and power cables for the drives.
I'm going to to be test a lot of drives (100+). so I need something that is fairly easy to plug and unplug a lot (data and power).
Also, do I need drivers for this card in Win 10? Or will the drives just show up in Disk Manager like sata drives?
All the help is very much appreciated !!

The cable I linked in my first post can be found in many difference places, I got mine off Amazon, I know ebay sellers have them too.
You can attach 4 drives with the one cable, the controller is capable of 8 drives at once without an expander.

About Windows 10.
I would have to install Windows 10 onto the PC I have the card installed in to know for sure.
Im not in a position where I can do the lab work today, I can try and sort it out over the next couple of days and get back to you on that, so hold off buying for now. Its not like its a rare card and will sell out.

SAS controller cards get hot hot hot. I have a fan in a pcie slot to blow directly on mine.

LSI 9305-24i x8 lane, PCIe 3.0 Full Height SAS SAS 9305 12 Gb/s SAS Host Bus Adapter
Dual Fan bracket w/ Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM for LSI 9305 (Brought temp down 17c)
CableCreation 2-Pack 1.6FT/0.5M Internal HD Mini SAS (SFF-8643 Host) - 4X SATA (Target) Cable,SFF-8643 to 4X SATA Cable, SFF-8643 for Controller, 4 Sata Connect to Hard Drive
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CL2STVS/ … le?ie=UTF8&th=1
This is a sata cable so just get a SAS one.

Yeah the card temp specs may say one thing but errors when TrueNAS accesses the drives say another 😉

A controller card needs drivers, either included with the OS or installed, its not a big deal.

Thanks again people!!
I'm concerned about the data/power cable. The cable in the previous post looks like a SATA on one end.
All these SAS drives have the data and power on one connector. The adapter in post three fits the drives, though as I said, this cable will not be helpful in my case. I think I need a cable that is SAS and then also into a Adaptec ASR-5805Z
I think the connector on the drives might be called a SFF 8482, or SAS 29 Pin with LP4 Power. I'm not sure, I still need some help.
They are no SATA connectors on these drives I want to test.

As for Win 10, I just need to know if drives connected to this card can be seen and used in win10. Or do I need to install drivers before win10 is installed , or after, or at all.

ok
I think I might have it figured.
Could you all smarter then me friends out there take a look and verify if I got this right.
Adaptec ASR-5805Z ebay item ID = 326228759132
cable ebay item ID = 335548567873

From the Adaptec online manual for this and many similar cards: This is PDF direct download.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rc … CU28S6Wv33-al_y

" Installing on Windows
Follow the instructions in this section for your version of Windows.
Installing with Windows Server 2008, Windows 7, or Windows Vista
1 Start or restart Windows.
The Found New Hardware Wizard opens and searches for the driver.
2 Insert the driver disk, then select Locate and Install Driver Software.... and Don’t Search
Online.
3 Click Next, then click Close.
4 When the installation is complete, remove the driver disk and restart your computer.
5 Continue with Managing Your Storage Space on page 67. "

Last is finding the right driver. I found this link, but I'm always weary would sites like this. Anyone have a better place for the correct win driver?

https://storage.microsemi.com/en-us/downloads … c+raid+8805.php

Do I need the Adaptec Storage Manager software? I'm just going to deleted volumes & partitions, make new ones, and write 1's, and 0's

Thanks for the assistance.

KLund1 wrote on 2024-08-27, 03:15:

Last is finding the right driver. I found this link, but I'm always weary would sites like this. Anyone have a better place for […]
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Last is finding the right driver. I found this link, but I'm always weary would sites like this. Anyone have a better place for the correct win driver?

https://storage.microsemi.com/en-us/downloads … c+raid+8805.php

Do I need the Adaptec Storage Manager software? I'm just going to deleted volumes & partitions, make new ones, and write 1's, and 0's

Thanks for the assistance.

That link you posted is the official Adaptec website, it's safe.

Also, depending on where the drives were used, they might be formatted in 520 byte sector and you'll need to convert them to 512.
https://forum.level1techs.com/t/how-to-reform … -usually/133021

lolo799 -
Many thanks for that, very helpful !!!

Anyone else want to help confirm my links and hardware above??

There is a link to a cable in my first post. That link to to a cable that has the connectors you will need.

Nb dont forget about the pin 3 problem with SAS drives in this manner 😉

Yes it is, but I found a cheaper one here in the states.
What is the pin 3 problem?

When you supply 3volts to pin 3 of a SAS drive it sends the disable unit command.
These cables can and some do supply power to pin 3 so you have to stop it.
Usually by putting a tiny piece of kapton tape over pin 3 of the drive before you plug the cable in.

WOW !!!
good to know !!! I am very glad you mentioned this. I know I would be pulling my hair out to figure this out.!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeUWUVH1D20
Changing interface definitions !! Frustrating to IT guys.
When did this start. my drives about 3 to 4 years old. from that video I am guessing my drives might be in the transition time.

KLund1 wrote on 2024-08-27, 03:15:

Last is finding the right driver. I found this link, but I'm always weary would sites like this. Anyone have a better place for […]
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Last is finding the right driver. I found this link, but I'm always weary would sites like this. Anyone have a better place for the correct win driver?

https://storage.microsemi.com/en-us/downloads … c+raid+8805.php

Do I need the Adaptec Storage Manager software? I'm just going to deleted volumes & partitions, make new ones, and write 1's, and 0's

Thanks for the assistance.

That link is the official download for adaptec

quote from wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptec

acquired by PMC-Sierra, which itself was later acquired by Microsemi, which itself was later acquired by Microchip Technology.

I just installed Windows 10 onto the server I have the controller card in. The drivers are already in Windows 10 so it should work as soon as you first boot Windows 10 with the controller card.

I cant help you with the Adaptec Storage Manager software apart from directing you towards the Adaptec downloads page for all the versions of it.
You would have to figure out which version will run with Windows 10.
https://storage.microsemi.com/en-us/downloads … raid+5805z.html

I hardly, if ever, use the software for configuration of the array, its there for battery backup info. All my configs are done at BIOS level.