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First post, by JF_Sebastian

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Hey guys,

today i tested an old P55t2p4 which i got from scrapyard. In general everything is working but the system time runs slower than usual. A second needs almost 4 seconds. Any idea what kind of problem causes that behavior? Bases the systemtime on the RTC module or does is come from an other component on the mainboard?

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J.F.

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Reply 1 of 7, by rasz_pl

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RTC runs the clock from internal 32KHz crystal when off. When ON and in DOS time is run by system timer (8254 PIT https://wiki.osdev.org/Programmable_Interval_Timer using bus/~14MHz clock). I dont know which one is used on the BIOS screen.

Last edited by rasz_pl on 2024-10-20, 17:27. Edited 1 time in total.

https://github.com/raszpl/FIC-486-GAC-2-Cache-Module for AT&T Globalyst
https://github.com/raszpl/386RC-16 memory board
https://github.com/raszpl/440BX Reference Design adapted to Kicad
https://github.com/raszpl/Zenith_ZBIOS MFM-300 Monitor

Reply 2 of 7, by weedeewee

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broken crystal is a likely culprit. that tiny metal tubes... I forget what frequency it was... 31k or something i think.

edit: https://youtu.be/koL3T5OAlIk?t=406

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Reply 3 of 7, by JF_Sebastian

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weedeewee wrote on 2024-10-20, 17:18:

broken crystal is a likely culprit. that tiny metal tubes... I forget what frequency it was... 31k or something i think.

edit: https://youtu.be/koL3T5OAlIk?t=406

Thanks for your replies!

Do you mean the crystal of the RTC?

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Asus P/I-P55T2P4 Rev. 3.10
Asus USB/MIR Rev. 1.11
AMD-K6-III/450AFX @6x83MHz; 2.4V
4x128MB EDO RAM 60ns
MATROX Mystique MGA-1064SG-D 4MB
Diamond Monster 2 8MB
DELOCK 91620 - CF to IDE
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Reply 4 of 7, by weedeewee

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JF_Sebastian wrote on 2024-10-20, 18:25:
weedeewee wrote on 2024-10-20, 17:18:

broken crystal is a likely culprit. that tiny metal tubes... I forget what frequency it was... 31k or something i think.

edit: https://youtu.be/koL3T5OAlIk?t=406

Thanks for your replies!

Do you mean the crystal of the RTC?

yes. please watch the video.

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Reply 5 of 7, by JF_Sebastian

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Ok. Thank you for your quick help!

Greetings
JF

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Asus P/I-P55T2P4 Rev. 3.10
Asus USB/MIR Rev. 1.11
AMD-K6-III/450AFX @6x83MHz; 2.4V
4x128MB EDO RAM 60ns
MATROX Mystique MGA-1064SG-D 4MB
Diamond Monster 2 8MB
DELOCK 91620 - CF to IDE
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Reply 6 of 7, by rasz_pl

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On this board 32KHz crystal is blobbed together with bios battery in the Dallas RTC clock chip, PIT timer is inside Intel 82371SB (PIIX3) southbridge and driven by ~14MHz buffered by ICS9159 clock gen chip.

https://github.com/raszpl/FIC-486-GAC-2-Cache-Module for AT&T Globalyst
https://github.com/raszpl/386RC-16 memory board
https://github.com/raszpl/440BX Reference Design adapted to Kicad
https://github.com/raszpl/Zenith_ZBIOS MFM-300 Monitor

Reply 7 of 7, by weedeewee

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rasz_pl wrote on 2024-10-20, 19:11:

On this board 32KHz crystal is blobbed together with bios battery in the Dallas RTC clock chip, PIT timer is inside Intel 82371SB (PIIX3) southbridge and driven by ~14MHz buffered by ICS9159 clock gen chip.

Well, when you're right, you're right.

JF_Sebastian When you go into the bios setup, and watch the time there. Does it count the seconds normally or not ?

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