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Reply 20 of 31, by emil.p

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I need to replace this battery, looks still good but it has 25 years at least, but no leakage surprisingly. Bought a holder for CR2023

Reply 21 of 31, by Horun

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You will figure out the settings for the ram, at least for the ram you are using. It may take you a few long days of work but think you will get it.
A few years ago I tired to figure out the DIP switches and jumpers to this board: https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/dfi-concorde-l
No documentation anywhere but was able to use some other boards docs + trial and error to get 4 - 1Mb simms working proper with bios shadowing. BIOS was very complicated compared to my other 286 board.
Never fully figured out the jumpers so no Math-co yet. Maybe some day will pull it out and try again. Picture I took of the BIOS shadow area, it had to match the ram amount and dip switches or else errors.....

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Reply 22 of 31, by emil.p

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Or, the DIP memory chips are not 256kb each, I'm not sure if I read it correctly (same with Trident TVGA8900D).
4 chips OKI - M514256A-80R
4 chips GoldStar - GM71C4256A-70
I mixed them in 2 banks with 2 each by each bank.

Trident has 8 chips of M5M44256BP. So, it's 1MB or 2MB ?

Reply 23 of 31, by emil.p

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that's a cool mainboard Horun, I understand that still was more fun that frustration 😀 for me assembling it and fixing stuff is like pleasure or puzzle to be solved, but time consumed can be irritating and nice to have some useful docs 😁
Let's see. It's matter of time to handle it. I'll check the DIP memory chips ... of course, need to learn how to read it properly first

Reply 24 of 31, by emil.p

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New SIPP memory 4 x 1MB works with the standard settings described in manual (Horun link - pdf). It looks mine 2 x 1MB are not OK (when I've switched them only bips). So, now it's clear

Reply 25 of 31, by emil.p

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and finally, together with DIP memory is now 5MB (5120KB) with SW1: 1/1, 1/2, 1/3, 1/4 ON. When I enabled again Video BIOS Shadow and Main BIOS Shadow is less: BASE 640KB and Extended 4096KB (=4736 KB)

Reply 26 of 31, by Horun

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Awesum !!Good work ! Yes when you enable Shadow's it addresses/converts part of the ram into UMB (the area from 640k to 1Mb) to shadow those bios. Typically it removes 384k which it appears it did 😀
Otherwise it addresses the ram from 0 to 640k then from 1024 to what ever limit ram you have. Now you should test the ram with Ramtest v3 or equal (something that supports a 286)

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Reply 27 of 31, by emil.p

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Hi all ! 😀
After a while I started thinking about BIOS modifications.
On the motherboard I see 3 BIOS chips: CD1, CD2 and CD3. For the first test I've used XGecu T76 to read CD1 using signature: S27C256 (but the CD1 chip is Signetics S27C256-15FA) .

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So, in XGPro app for XGecu I've tried few Manufacturers like SGS-THOMSON, ST, TI, ISSI and with option 'Check ID' it couldn't detect properly the chip. Then with unchecked option and now I see under adresses and ASCI some stuff 😀

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Does anyone know where I could find a proper BIOS version for AMI 3CD's to have newer version of BIOS like the one which is on 286 / 386 with more advanced config (with colors) instead of black and white version ?

Reply 28 of 31, by weedeewee

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FYI.

1 CD... and 2 CD ... are both 8 bit eproms.
3 CD ... is the keyboard controller microprocessor.

the 1CD... U40 is marked as LO Byte
the 2CD... U30 is marked as HI Byte

both 1CD & 2CD (U40 & U30) contain your mainboards BIOS split into HI & LO byte parts. sometimes referred to as Odd & Even.
If you find a bios image for a 286 which is only one file, you will need to split it into two parts using a program such as romwak https://github.com/freem/romwak/releases
If you want to see the bios which your eproms currently contain, you will need to read both U40 & U30 and re-assemble them using a program such as romwak https://github.com/freem/romwak/releases

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Reply 29 of 31, by emil.p

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Hi weedeewee, let me try to check these soft. Many thanks ! Will be back with update soon

Reply 30 of 31, by emil.p

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Hi,

The merge was quite straight forward:
romwak_0.3c-bin_windows>romwak_x64.exe /m CD1_TS27C256@DIP28.BIN CD2_TS27C256@DIP28.BIN CD1_CD2.bin
FILE: https://tmpfiles.org/dl/20217003/cd1_cd2.bin

Now I can see text in the merged bin file 👍

Can you share some info what BIOS I could use or where I could find a replacement for motherboard YL-A09S / YL-A09H ?
I started looking here: http://chukaev.ru54.com/bios.htm#z2hlm006 and https://www.minuszerodegrees.net/at_clone_bio … _clone_bios.htm but there are so many.
Do I need to stick to AMI and Headland HT102, Headland GC113, G2 101 chips, number of ISA slots (8/16 bits), etc ?

I see in the current BIOS:
XXXX88886666----0123AAAAMMMMIIII Date:-12/15/89 (C)1985-1989, American Megatrends Inc. All Rights Reserved. 1346 Oakbrook Drive, Suite-120, Norcross, GA-30093, USA.Phone-(404)-263-8181.

Reply 31 of 31, by emil.p

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Quick update. I did few tests. Copying the old BIOS from my original chips works well ☺️
I tried few downloaded BIOSes, some were similar to mine but mainly were failing (like hanging or showing some strange lines with random chars) further even I could access the BIOS setup.
Surprisingly one AWARD worked quite well 😄 👍

I'll be continuing it. Thought also about finding something like custom AMI (or other) BIOS which could allow us to choose all options which are suitable for our motherboard, but I guess there is nothing like that existing.
Maybe it is possible to upgrade BIOS somehow, need to do some research.

If you have some ideas please share you thoughts