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Reply 55482 of 56042, by bestemor

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keenerb wrote on 2024-12-15, 16:20:
devius wrote on 2024-12-15, 16:09:

A Socket 370 board with 6 ISA slots??

That's exactly what I said. So much room for activities!!!

And look at that deep infestation of yellow mushrooms all over the place, just itching to explode 🤯

Now that would create a lot of activity .

Reply 55483 of 56042, by Kahenraz

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bestemor wrote on 2024-12-15, 19:36:
keenerb wrote on 2024-12-15, 16:20:
devius wrote on 2024-12-15, 16:09:

A Socket 370 board with 6 ISA slots??

That's exactly what I said. So much room for activities!!!

And look at that deep infestation of yellow mushrooms all over the place, just itching to explode 🤯

Now that would create a lot of activity .

And here I thought I had the ultimate 440BX with five ISA slots. This one has be beat!

Wonderfully obnoxious and gratuitous overkill with 5 ISA slots and a Tualatin

Reply 55485 of 56042, by BitWrangler

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Media storage day *tap tap tap* yup this ware is hard, I can touch it.

Got one of those generic 3.5 double row boxes, hoping this is a sturdier one, I discovered one I had had got the lid cracked up and popped a hinge, from only having one more layer of disk box on top of it.

Then these really appealed to me, a lot of my 5.25 stash is in really shabby card retail 10 pack sleeves so harder storage more gooder. Kodak, pioneers of the digital camera who didn't think it would go very far so doubled down on film and went bust 🤣 They used to do disk media too. These cases fold open and splay so you can look through disks easy. 4 of them there.

Both came with a small amount of disks, a project manager and planner on 3.5 and PC Mag disks and a Norton Commander type shell thing, some programming stuff. Will have to give my 5.25 on the XT a clean to make sure it has a good shot at trying to read stuff.

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Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 55486 of 56042, by Ozzuneoj

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bestemor wrote on 2024-12-15, 19:36:
keenerb wrote on 2024-12-15, 16:20:
devius wrote on 2024-12-15, 16:09:

A Socket 370 board with 6 ISA slots??

That's exactly what I said. So much room for activities!!!

And look at that deep infestation of yellow mushrooms all over the place, just itching to explode 🤯

Now that would create a lot of activity .

I'd much rather have a board covered in those than a board covered in these. 😁

If none of those tantalums go boom in the first few minutes of running they'll probably last another 25 years without degradation, assuming the system is powered on from time to time. The fact that DFI used so many tantalums is a sure sign that the ITOX3 was an expensive industrial board meant for situations where marginal aluminum electrolytics wouldn't be sufficient.

I have one of these boards myself and I have been waiting for a Via C3 1.2Ghz to fall into my lap to complete the system. Another user did a similar build and I believe it turned out really well. I actually made up a list of the possible soundcard combinations for it. My goal would be to have the largest variety of hardware MIDI and FM synths possible in one computer (without some crazy ISA backplane setup...). 😁

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 55487 of 56042, by AppleSauce

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BitWrangler wrote on 2024-12-17, 00:25:
Media storage day *tap tap tap* yup this ware is hard, I can touch it. […]
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Media storage day *tap tap tap* yup this ware is hard, I can touch it.

Got one of those generic 3.5 double row boxes, hoping this is a sturdier one, I discovered one I had had got the lid cracked up and popped a hinge, from only having one more layer of disk box on top of it.

Then these really appealed to me, a lot of my 5.25 stash is in really shabby card retail 10 pack sleeves so harder storage more gooder. Kodak, pioneers of the digital camera who didn't think it would go very far so doubled down on film and went bust 🤣 They used to do disk media too. These cases fold open and splay so you can look through disks easy. 4 of them there.

Both came with a small amount of disks, a project manager and planner on 3.5 and PC Mag disks and a Norton Commander type shell thing, some programming stuff. Will have to give my 5.25 on the XT a clean to make sure it has a good shot at trying to read stuff.

Oh wow you have the exact same floppy storage container I do.
I think I found it in an op shop ages ago , they do come in handy.

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But I also have a 5.25 drawer a friend helped me get , I'm not sure if it is technically for photos or disks but it works well enough and looks cool.

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Reply 55488 of 56042, by Nexxen

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AppleSauce wrote on 2024-12-17, 12:15:

But I also have a 5.25 drawer a friend helped me get , I'm not sure if it is technically for photos or disks but it works well enough and looks cool.

POSSO drawers. I have one 5.25 and 2 3.5. They come black and grey.
I've been looking for 5.25 for quite some time but either the price is high or shipping is higher than a supercar.

They have a full range of products, VHS, audio tapes, HDDs (IRC). Stackable 😀

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Reply 55489 of 56042, by H3nrik V!

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AppleSauce wrote on 2024-12-17, 12:15:

Oh wow you have the exact same floppy storage container I do.
I think I found it in an op shop ages ago , they do come in handy.

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I think, back in the days with Amiga 500, we used to remove those partioning plates from those boxes, thus having room for a whopping 100 diskettes! 😎

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If it's dual it's kind of cool ... 😎

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Reply 55490 of 56042, by AppleSauce

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Nexxen wrote on 2024-12-17, 12:41:
POSSO drawers. I have one 5.25 and 2 3.5. They come black and grey. I've been looking for 5.25 for quite some time but either th […]
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AppleSauce wrote on 2024-12-17, 12:15:

But I also have a 5.25 drawer a friend helped me get , I'm not sure if it is technically for photos or disks but it works well enough and looks cool.

POSSO drawers. I have one 5.25 and 2 3.5. They come black and grey.
I've been looking for 5.25 for quite some time but either the price is high or shipping is higher than a supercar.

They have a full range of products, VHS, audio tapes, HDDs (IRC). Stackable 😀

Ah okay , good to know , are they somewhat sought after?

looks like they even had a CD one.
https://www.etsy.com/au/listing/1069268644/po … listing_details

Reply 55491 of 56042, by PcBytes

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Arrived today:

- Matrox Parhelia 512 128MB - works although HDMI output looks pretty bizzare... not sure if it's a issue with the card or my DVI adapters are downright incompatible with this thing. No artefacts so that's a good sign
- FIC PA-2013 - needs recap, looks okay-ish otherwise. Can't figure out the revision exactly - I can tell it's a REV2 board (no LM75 onboard) but that's it. No idea whether it's the one with AGP issues or not.
- Commate S7AX - same, even as far as I won't even attempt powering it on until I recapped it. Last Commate board I had (a SiS 530 based one, S7SXB) killed TWO K6-2 chips I had, and its own chipset. Not repeating the same mistake twice.
- Soyo SY-5EMA+ v1.1 - also needs recap, looks good otherwise.

All are a bit rusty on the ports but nothing some sandpaper won't fix.

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Reply 55492 of 56042, by Nexxen

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AppleSauce wrote on 2024-12-17, 13:01:
Ah okay , good to know , are they somewhat sought after? […]
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Nexxen wrote on 2024-12-17, 12:41:
POSSO drawers. I have one 5.25 and 2 3.5. They come black and grey. I've been looking for 5.25 for quite some time but either th […]
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AppleSauce wrote on 2024-12-17, 12:15:

But I also have a 5.25 drawer a friend helped me get , I'm not sure if it is technically for photos or disks but it works well enough and looks cool.

POSSO drawers. I have one 5.25 and 2 3.5. They come black and grey.
I've been looking for 5.25 for quite some time but either the price is high or shipping is higher than a supercar.

They have a full range of products, VHS, audio tapes, HDDs (IRC). Stackable 😀

Ah okay , good to know , are they somewhat sought after?

looks like they even had a CD one.
https://www.etsy.com/au/listing/1069268644/po … listing_details

Sought after, IDK, but they aren't that easy to find. I bough the 2 3.5 floppy drawers for 20€.

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Reply 55493 of 56042, by AppleSauce

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Anyways speaking of stuff I got recently , I have joined the x68000 club and I'm in the process of getting upgrades and peripherals for it ,
but I'm already at the point that it softboots , runs games from both drives and has a working keyboard and FM audio and also SFX.

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I've wanted one for ages but bit the bullet not that long ago and went through a pretty stressful journey of repairs and setup , but it's now mostly working.
While the software is all mostly in Japanese which is a bit of a barrier , the operating system is very much like DOS which makes it feel a bit more familiar.

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I do have a SACOM midi card on the way and a trackball mouse , but I've heard the SACOM might have compatibility issues even though it has the exact same midi interface chip as the sharp midi card so I'm not sure what that's about.
But I guess I can always spring for an sharp one if I can get one for an okay price.
Either way I've got a pretty potent midi stack including a CM32P that I also got not long ago to upgrade the 32L to a CM64 and the PCM expansion cards that work with gemini wing so I'm very much looking forward to listening to some of that well composed music.

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Also the NEC Multisync has technical issues and probably is going to need a good service very soon.

Reply 55494 of 56042, by PC@LIVE

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Tomorrow I'm going to pick up a batch of three motherboards, and today I ordered three more, I hope that among these I can make at least two or three work, I don't remember batches with all the boards working, except cards that I bought individually, and then I managed to make work.

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Reply 55495 of 56042, by AGP4LIfe?

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Picked up another Geforce 3 from the bay, I have such a huge soft spot for GF3's for some reason.
I find this unit particularly interesting.
Its a Gainward Geforce 3 Ti 200 128MB Golden Sample. Its quite fast for a GF3 & 128MB version.
GF3Ti 200 64MB -- 175 Core / 200 Mem
GF3Ti 200 128MB -- 175 Core / 200 Mem
GF3 Std 64MB -- 200 Core / 230 Mem
GF3 T2 GS 128 -- 210 Core /240 Mem --
GF3 Ti500 64MB -- 240 Core / 250 Mem

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As you can see its Factory overclocked on both the Core and Mem ABOVE even the standard GF3 Clocks, but carries the Ti 200 Badge.
Zoom Zoom.

It gets more interesting. Even though it carries "Ti 200" In the name, the core is actually a GF3 standard core! not a Ti 200. Which given the large factory overclock makes sense I guess. Pretty neat. Meaning this is actually a GF3 Standard with 128MB of ram! in disguise! 😁

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Reply 55496 of 56042, by AGP4LIfe?

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I also picked up an excellent condition Creative CT6971 Geforce 256 DDR 32MB, from across the ocean for a great price.
Going in a Pentium II 450 build. Another huge soft spot for these.

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Reply 55497 of 56042, by Kahenraz

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Besides being a collector's item, I never understood the draw of the 256 DDR versus a GeForce 2. Technically speaking, there isn't any driver advantage and it suffers from all the same problems as all post-TNT cards in Direct3D 5 games.

For Windows 9x retro machine with slower CPUs, my go-to is a TNT2 for compatibility or a GeForce 2 if I want TnL and better performance.

Reply 55498 of 56042, by BitWrangler

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It on left side of arbitrary round number other GPU on right side of arbitrary round number.... i.e. fastest card of the the Nineteen hundreds... if you want to LAN Party like it's 1999.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 55499 of 56042, by AGP4LIfe?

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Kahenraz wrote on 2024-12-17, 18:27:

Besides being a collector's item, I never understood the draw of the 256 DDR versus a GeForce 2. Technically speaking, there isn't any driver advantage and it suffers from all the same problems as all post-TNT cards in Direct3D 5 games.

For Windows 9x retro machine with slower CPUs, my go-to is a TNT2 for compatibility or a GeForce 2 if I want TnL and better performance.

Anything with "TNT" in it was a dirty word for my era of folks/friends, it meant something to the effect of "Parent's Email Box, that overheated and was extremely choppy for gaming". Basically anything that didn't have the name "Geforce" attached to it was never touch/sad face category 🤣.

This is probably more attributed to the fact that the majority of us used oem boxes at first during childhood and oems had a tenancy to use the worst of the chips available while still being technically a "TNT" product.

The very first video card I purchased with my own money was a Geforce 2 PRO 64MB, and It was super fast and exciting when I bought it. I had wanted to buy a Geforce 256 in 1999 but had to wait until spring/summer of 2000 to scrape enough cash together to build my own machine. Which meant the release of the Geforce 2 was already at hand, so its mostly a nostalgia purchases because i missed the opportunity to pick it up back then. 😀

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