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First post, by dukeofurl

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My family (based in USA) made a computer from different mail order parts in 1996. The cpu was a pentium 166, but since it was created from individual parts, it's not something I can easily look up and find. I happen to have some old blurry polaroids of it, so bit of a long shot... but curious if anyone here recognizes any make or model info for the motherboard, case or CRT?

Motherboard, no doubt a socket 7 for the pentium 166. Looks like 3 ISA and 4 PCI slots. Maybe the tan color is distinctive?

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Case. Very very tall vertical case. Lots of room for drive bays. 6 I think? I think it had a turbo button, and within the black area, displayed the cpu speed (166) via green LED numbers like a digital clock.

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CRT monitor. Any guess as to the make?

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A PCI video card we installed the day the pictures were taken. It was not a 3D accelerator card. You can also see it somewhat in the motherboard picture above.

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Reply 1 of 17, by Nexxen

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Motherboard:
https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/asus-p-i-p55tp4n

Easy to spot, not only I know ASUS socket 7, but P/I is only ASUS 😀

Graphics I can't tell, guess S3.

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Reply 2 of 17, by debs3759

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I love the case! Love large cases with lots of drive bays for high end systems of any era 😀

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Reply 3 of 17, by dukeofurl

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Nexxen wrote on 2025-01-12, 19:55:
Motherboard: https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/asus-p-i-p55tp4n […]
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Motherboard:
https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/asus-p-i-p55tp4n

Easy to spot, not only I know ASUS socket 7, but P/I is only ASUS 😀

Graphics I can't tell, guess S3.

Wow that was fast! Sweet! Totally going to buy one of these for my next old pc project.

Reply 4 of 17, by PD2JK

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Graphics card, Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM

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Reply 5 of 17, by dukeofurl

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PD2JK wrote on 2025-01-12, 20:36:

Graphics card, Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM

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Wow, super impressed at this ID based on the blur I provided! That's got to be it. Gotta add it to my shopping list now 🤣 Thanks!

Reply 6 of 17, by dionb

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Also 2x 4MB or (more likely) 2x 16MB 72p SIMMs. Probably EDO, although FPM can't be ruled out.

The floppy drive is nice, looks like a Teac FD-505 combo drive. Won't be cheap to find one of those...

Reply 7 of 17, by BinaryDemon

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For a minute I thought that board had VLB, but I spent the last 5min learning about ASUS MediaBus.

Reply 8 of 17, by Nexxen

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dionb wrote on 2025-01-12, 21:15:

The floppy drive is nice, looks like a Teac FD-505 combo drive. Won't be cheap to find one of those...

I've never seen one for sale. Was it rare?

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Reply 9 of 17, by dukeofurl

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After just searching through images of beige tower cases I found one on a spam website, probably nicked from an old auction, that looks like a match.

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Reply 10 of 17, by dukeofurl

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User Oerk in this 2015 topic seems to have a PC with the same case and very similar motherboard as I did. Maybe it was a kit.
My Socket 7 "1997" Project

The case seems very similar but not identical to the Macase KS-130, a picture of which (and their entire line of "diamond" cases) is available in this thread
PC tower cases by year

Reply 11 of 17, by Horun

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Nexxen wrote on 2025-01-12, 22:42:
dionb wrote on 2025-01-12, 21:15:

The floppy drive is nice, looks like a Teac FD-505 combo drive. Won't be cheap to find one of those...

I've never seen one for sale. Was it rare?

Yes, same with those Canon MD-5511 or 7511 dual drives..though they come up once in a while.

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Reply 12 of 17, by dionb

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Nexxen wrote on 2025-01-12, 22:42:

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I've never seen one for sale. Was it rare?

Uncommon, but not unobtainium. There are a few on a well-known auction site for the sort of price anything sought-after is there.

It's a particularly interesting choice in this system as their main use case is to save space in very small cases - they always were more expensive than two regular separate drives, whereas this is a huge bigtower with tons of unused bays. My guess is that it was recycled from a (smaller) earlier computer.

Reply 13 of 17, by wbahnassi

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Plus maintaining them is a pain. Extra disassmbly steps, even smaller parts, if one of them totally fails you'll need to replace the entire unit. So I'd take two separate drives any day over combo drives unless size is indeed a factor... but honestly the only "case" (pun intended) where combo drives are really useful is a flatbed desktop PC with only two drive bays. So one bay goes to the combo drive and the other goes for CD drive. The most compact tower cases always have at least 2 5.25" drive bays and one 3.5" bay.. so combo is not needed there either.

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Reply 14 of 17, by liqmat

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That CRT manual looks to say Ultra 17. The brand logo is a tough one on the left side.

Reply 15 of 17, by PD2JK

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Hmm... the CRT took me about an hour.

I think it's this one:

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"Princeton Ultra 17"

Mix of an IBM and a NEC Multisync? Never heard of it haha.

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Reply 16 of 17, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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PD2JK wrote on 2025-01-13, 09:22:
Hmm... the CRT took me about an hour. […]
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Hmm... the CRT took me about an hour.

I think it's this one:

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"Princeton Ultra 17"

Mix of an IBM and a NEC Multisync? Never heard of it haha.

Brand seems to have had a pretty good rep...

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Reply 17 of 17, by dukeofurl

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PD2JK wrote on 2025-01-13, 09:22:
Hmm... the CRT took me about an hour. […]
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Hmm... the CRT took me about an hour.

I think it's this one:

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"Princeton Ultra 17"

Mix of an IBM and a NEC Multisync? Never heard of it haha.

Nice job! That's got to be it!

Wow good job everyone! I didn't expect that essentially all major parts would be identified, especially not within 24 hours!