Studiostriver wrote on 2025-01-22, 00:25:

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As with 486 DX 100MHZ i never used pure DOS system and i must confess it would take some time to learn how to properly use it (but i guessing i can install 95 OS there i well). With MMX having 95 would be much easier transition i must confess.

I doubt it, it just gives you two things that need configuring correctly, and each can potentially mess the other up. Plus things like Plug & Play on Windows 95 are a lot more primitive than on Windows 98, it's harder to get stuff to work.

You can run Windows 95 on pretty much any 486 given enough ram (>24MB if you don't want to torture yourself), but not many Windows 95 games will run well on them, so I'd not bother.

Word of warning though: that DX4 will be too fast in turbo mode but also too slow in de-turbo mode for quite a few of your games (those 1990-1993 Origin titles in particular). Still, you could buy it and replace the CPU with a 486DX33 to solve that. The P200MMX would have the same problem but worse - it's great for late (>1994) DOS titles, but not good for 1990-1993, and once again, everything that it can do better than a 486 would also be able to run on your P3, so you already have them covered.

Still i perfectly understand 486 would just once i learn how to navigate the DOS just work without too much hustle and adjusting speed etc. I have to rethink twice what should i do.

DOS really isn't that difficult - unless you try to mix it with Windows. The trick is that DOS really doesn't do very much - almost no hardware drivers needed because games talk direct to the hardware. You can pretty much do a default install of MS-DOS 6.22 and run most stuff out there with no further tweaking or software needed. The only exception is memory management, but unless you have difficult hardware config (stuff that does need TSR drivers and so eats conventional memory), even that isn't too hard.

I find getting stuff running under Windows 95 *much* more complicated.

dionb wrote on 2025-01-22, 00:59:

I doubt it, it just gives you two things that need configuring correctly, and each can potentially mess the other up. Plus thing […]
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Studiostriver wrote on 2025-01-22, 00:25:

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As with 486 DX 100MHZ i never used pure DOS system and i must confess it would take some time to learn how to properly use it (but i guessing i can install 95 OS there i well). With MMX having 95 would be much easier transition i must confess.

I doubt it, it just gives you two things that need configuring correctly, and each can potentially mess the other up. Plus things like Plug & Play on Windows 95 are a lot more primitive than on Windows 98, it's harder to get stuff to work.

You can run Windows 95 on pretty much any 486 given enough ram (>24MB if you don't want to torture yourself), but not many Windows 95 games will run well on them, so I'd not bother.

Word of warning though: that DX4 will be too fast in turbo mode but also too slow in de-turbo mode for quite a few of your games (those 1990-1993 Origin titles in particular). Still, you could buy it and replace the CPU with a 486DX33 to solve that. The P200MMX would have the same problem but worse - it's great for late (>1994) DOS titles, but not good for 1990-1993, and once again, everything that it can do better than a 486 would also be able to run on your P3, so you already have them covered.

Still i perfectly understand 486 would just once i learn how to navigate the DOS just work without too much hustle and adjusting speed etc. I have to rethink twice what should i do.

DOS really isn't that difficult - unless you try to mix it with Windows. The trick is that DOS really doesn't do very much - almost no hardware drivers needed because games talk direct to the hardware. You can pretty much do a default install of MS-DOS 6.22 and run most stuff out there with no further tweaking or software needed. The only exception is memory management, but unless you have difficult hardware config (stuff that does need TSR drivers and so eats conventional memory), even that isn't too hard.

I find getting stuff running under Windows 95 *much* more complicated.

Hm, thanks for clarification, and once again you are right, i can play newer DOS titles from 94+ play on P3 already. This guy have already installed 95 OS on 486 computer i know see, and his motherboard model is Gigabyte GA-5486AL. I must say currently its much easier for me to buy one complete configuration computer since they are on sale on few spots then finding just 486DX33. For that i would maybe need help from you guys here on vogons if any of you having spare to sell. 😀
I`m going to sleep, see ya bit later.

I`m still buffling myself between MMX or 486, and searching for various offers to see if i maybe miss something. Its always versatility vs authencity vs look. 😉