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2010 PC and TPM

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First post, by FFXIhealer

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Not sure where this fits in best, so I'm trying here.

PC is 2010 era. Windows 7 era.
Core i7-860 2.8GHz "Lynnfield" CPU
16GB DDR3-1600 (4x4GB)
MSI Big Bang Trinergy motherboard
2x GTX 480 graphics cards

Thinking about sourcing a TPM module for it, though I can't for the life of me think of why. It is literally running Windows 7 Home 64-bit and there's no UEFI to be found anywhere on the board. It's a P55-based board with BIOS, as far as I know.

But I recently got a TPM 2.0 module for my 2015 MSI motherboard that's been running Windows 10 this whole time and now I'm running Windows 11 (I only had to bypass the "unsupported CPU" issue), since my CPU has SSE4.2 instruction set and has the POPCNT instruction. Who knows why Microsoft decided to make the cutoff 8th-Gen Intel CPUs.

My first question would be - has anyone else ever seen documentation for TPM modules from way back in 2010? I'm assuming a TPM 1.2 module since 2.0 didn't come out until 2014. The MB has a 14-1 pin connector, which is the same as the 2.0 module I got for my Z180 board. But I can't find any documentation to the effect. Even my own MB manual for the Trinergy just says "TPM Module" and then has a pin-out telling me what each pin does. And it just says "See TPM manual" or something useless like that, since the MB box never came with a TPM manual.

Second would be - what would I do with it once I have it? The PC has been downgraded from Windows 10 Home with a fresh install of Windows 7 Home in order to turn it from a daily work PC into an older gaming PC, just like Windows XP/Vista or Windows 95/98 computers are. They're here just to run certain time periods of games - in this case anything from 2010-2015.

OLD-1998 - Windows 95, 200Mhz Pentium, 64MB EDO RAM, 2MB ATI Rage IIc, 4MB Voodoo.
1999-2002 - Windows 98, 600Mhz Pentium 3, 256MB PC-100, 32MB RIVA TNT2, 2x 12MB Voodoo2
2003-2006 - Windows XP, 2.1GHz "Barton" Athlon XP, 2GB DDR, 256MB Radeon 9550
2007-2009 - Windows XP/Vista, 3.0GHz Core 2 Quad, 8GB DDR3-1333, 4GB GTX 750ti
2010-2014 - Windows 7, 2.8GHz i7-860, 16GB DDR3-1600, 2x 1.5GB GTX 480
2015-2025 - Windows 10/11, 4.0GHz i7-6700K, 32GB DDR4-3200, 8GB RTX3070 (was 6GB GTX 980ti)
2023-2025 - Windows 11, 3.8GHz Ryzen 7-7700, 64GB DDR5-4800, 20GB RX7900xt

Am I just one of those guys who wants to buy shit to say he has it? Because it's "cool"? Am I that old now? I should probably stop now before I buy some more useless crap, huh?

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Reply 1 of 2, by DosFreak

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Not much documentation needed, just plug and play. You may have issues finding firmware updates for it.

Most likely use case would be to use it with bitlocker so the key is stored in TPM and you can use a pin. If you don't you'd have to use a password and most likely it would be a short password that is not secure.
If you aren't going to use bitlocker then not much point.

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Reply 2 of 2, by pentiumspeed

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TPM concept go much eariler back around 2005 or so. I found this out that IBM computer I bought used cheaply, for boss use at old work running XP, at this time local computer shop was selling Pentium III machines (desktop), running XP. It does have TPM module daughter board that removed, will not let PC to boot. One more thing, to upgrade CPU, you have to flash the bios again via floppy drive.

Prior to upgrades, we were limping along on 98SE disk network of sub quality generic computers. I managed to collect few OEM computers (Dell and IBM) on XP and put them in use improved our productivity and no more swearings.

That local computer since had shut down not too long ago. Became very snobbish shop, Back in the 2003, I loved that I can buy used old computers all lined up on storage racks, eventually no longer doing it and started selliling one model of used computers when available, and another shop opened up selling used computers and was great one to go. Now eventually closed up too.

Only way I get OEM goodies is Ebay these days.

Cheers,

Great Northern aka Canada.