Got some modern parts today.
Now I start the test procedere. Wish me luck.
I've sent a private message with my suggestions.
Those adapters to use SATA disks with PATA environment are interesting too. You just need to check how good they like PIO, SWDMA/MWDMA and UDMA.
Disruptor wrote on 2025-01-28, 18:17:I've sent a private message with my suggestions.
Those adapters to use SATA disks with PATA environment are interesting too. You just need to check how good they like PIO, SWDMA/MWDMA and UDMA.
I can tell you know that those are almost certainly Jmicron pata-sata bridges, so they will do PIO & UDMA fine. WDMA is theoretically possible, but rarely implemented correctly on the PCB.
First batch, the easy stuff:
POST:
NO POST:
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I continue to test the P2B-S and the PowerPC 750 board and afterwards I begin with the AT stuff 😀
Is it reasonable to assume that the "apple computer" slogan on the rage 128 pro suggests that it works only with the PowerPC?
DrFuchs wrote on 2025-01-28, 18:48:Is it reasonable to assume that the "apple computer" slogan on the rage 128 pro suggests that it works only with the PowerPC?
No. It is most likely that the BIOS is programmed for Apple systems.
So it is likely you cannot use it as primary graphics card in an x86 PC.
You somehow need to look into the BIOS first.
Unlikely but possible is that the RAM extension is from Apple but not the graphics card itself.
Edit: Vogons thread ATI RAGE 128 GL (PCI) and 128 PRO (AGP) BIOS shows that 57401 BIOS is for MAC.
Why don't you try to test it in your Power PC motherboard? 😀
DrFuchs wrote on 2025-01-28, 18:48:Is it reasonable to assume that the "apple computer" slogan on the rage 128 pro suggests that it works only with the PowerPC?
Yes, that makes sense. On the other hand, the primary (only?) difference between the PC and the Apple version is the BIOS contents, so you might actually be able to use the Apple Rage 128 Pro as secondary card in Windows.
At the very moment of plugging in the ATX power into the PowerPC I hesitated - maybe saved the board. A brief research suggests same plug, different pinout. So I skipped the PowerPC and the Rage Pro for now.
486 Board, 486 CPU, TsengLabs VLB GPU POST! Topless... 😁
72 Pin RAM: 8x 16 MB, 3x 8 MB, 2x 4 MB and 30 Pin RAM: 4x 1 MB POST (on the 486)!
First try no post on the S7, switched VGA, RAM, downclock cpu (2x50), changed dallas clock to replica, nothing. Went to the P60 S4 and also nothing. Tried two RAM Sticks instead of one... POST! Switched back to the S7 - POST!
The S4 P60 has a password and can't boot or setup. Need to hack this somehow.
NexGen 586.... POST!
Ahh... 😁 Everything survived... Need to change the dallas chip on the P60 (soldered) and hack the password somehow but it's a better outcome than expected.
douglar wrote on 2025-01-28, 16:47:Reasons to keep modems: […]
Reasons to keep modems:
- Cheaper than buying new blank slot covers
- Could be a source of spare surface mount resistors in some cases
- ISA models <= 33.6 often have re-usable eproms
Anything else?
The bluew ceramic caps on them are usually Y2-safety rated, which come in handy when I need to rebuild some crappy-but-not-total-crap ATX PSUs that lack an input filter (or have regular non-safety-approved 1kV ceramic caps, which is not allowed.)
And like you say, they are free slot covers.
In some cases, you can even use these modem brackets in a situation where you have a video or sound card that don't have their original bracket. In that case, it just comes down to a little cutting/dremelling that's needed.
DrFuchs wrote on 2025-01-27, 18:23:It's a beast. […]
alvaro84 wrote on 2025-01-27, 17:33:and the Wildcat.
It's a beast.
I forgot: ASUS CUSL2, P3-1000EB, GF4-4200 AGP, GF3-200 AGP, SB Live! PCI, Opti 4 Port USB Controller PCI, ESS18xx PCI Soundcard and another 10/100 Intel Pro PCI.
Also two ELSA 3D REVELATOR Shutter Glasses - I used them as a kid with the ELSA Victory Erazor if I remember correctly.In for sound build ideas.
I will have to trade something of my parts because I'm missing AT Cases, ISA/VLB GPU and ISA Soundcard for the NexGen.
Picture of the Power PC 750 Board:
Frequently, AT boards can fit inside an ATX case. You will need a faceplate, but you can 3d print those. You will also need an ATX->AT converter kit for board power and power switch.
The deal breaker will be 'full size' AT boards. (ATX is fit by 'baby AT', usually.) You will have to shop SPECIAL for that, but it's not impossible.
I found a PWD jumper on the P60 and it boots till no drives found. But I can't get into bios, waited for 5 minutes...
Entering SETUP... without password question but then nothing more. Ideas? Tried all the jumpers (cmos, recv (no Boot), setup (disables BIOS Entry), prg)
The jumpers are documented: https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/intel- … re-atlx-hendrix
I don't think you're going to have any luck without replacing the RTC (or the battery). They can block access completely to the CMOS RAM when the battery's low which can cause all sorts of problems.
Old AMI and Award bioses have backdoor passwords baked into them for this purpose.
You can find lists of them online, like this one.
https://gist.github.com/Yousha/b6ed8edf8961f0 … 40a563718ea929c
This one has a similar list, but also useful tools. As they note, these are only for very old systems. (which yours qualify)
https://www.biosflash.com/e/bios-passwords.htm
After some research I found a possible solution utilizing GSETUP, maybe this will help, he had the same problem. Re: Cannot enter BIOS setup on my Pentium 60
Have to fix the dallas first.
douglar wrote on 2025-01-28, 16:47:Reasons to keep modems: […]
Joakim wrote on 2025-01-27, 19:06:I agree, most things there are sellable if you have the time. But maybe not the modems. 😀
Reasons to keep modems:
- Cheaper than buying new blank slot covers
- Could be a source of spare surface mount resistors in some cases
- ISA models <= 33.6 often have re-usable eproms
Anything else?
Yes, they will soon be rare.
And then people won't have them to simulate dial-up connections anymore so easily.
But they're useful to get older browsers and devices (set-up boxes, game consoles) online which can't use ethernet.
PPP connections can be simulated via various software-solutions, though.
"ReplayTV-FREESCO" seems to be a good start, maybe.
Makeshift Dialup Internet Server - Advice? (Solved!)
On the physical side, all it needs is a telephone line simulator or a PBX.
A real analogue PBX from the past century would be ideal, I suppose,
but an old router with a pair of RJ45 telephone ports can be useful, too.
It's also possible to directly wire modems together, but this requires some extra Hayes parameters.
Using a simulated land-line is more reliable, because it works without any special settings.
Especially in regards to things like game consoles (Dreamcast etc) that's a nice extra. 😀
Edit: There's an early prototype web browser for PC GEM (GEMWeb 0.3) that's PPP only.
It can't use ethernet/packet drivers. In order to tinker with it, it's necessary to load one of the two dial-up programs.
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