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First post, by JustRob

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Hello,

I got an old Windows 95 computer, pentium MMX, PA-2005 mobo.

I’m trying to find a way to easily transfer files without burning and throwing away discs every time. There’s no onboard USB. I tried hooking up a USB PCI card, but the computer doesn’t even boot when it’s connected. It turns on, but no display signal. The mobo also has a header labelled as USB, but from what I read it’s not actual functional. So USB is out.

Then I decided to try FTP. I hooked up a PCI 3Com 3C905B-TX ethernet card, and successfully installed the drivers. I set up FileZilla server on my Windows 11 PC and installed FileZilla for Windows 95. However, when I start it up, I get error after error.

First I got a missing DLL file error, WS2_32.DLL. Downloaded that and installed in the system folder. Then I got missing DLL WS2HELP.DLL. Once again, downloaded and installed in system folder. And now I’m getting “The WS2HELP.DLL file is associated with missing output NTDLL.DLL:RtNtStatusToDosError”.

I could keep downloading and installing random files, but I feel like I’m dodging the underlying issue. I just don’t know what that underlying issue is. Was wondering if anyone here knows what I’m doing wrong.

I’m pretty close to giving up on FTP and trying some IDE to SD or SCSI2SD solution instead. What can I do to make FTP work?

Reply 1 of 20, by feda

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Is there a reason you insist on using FileZilla and can't try one of the many other FTP clients that support 9x?

Reply 2 of 20, by roytam1

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what version of filezilla (client) you're using?

Reply 3 of 20, by JustRob

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feda wrote on 2025-02-10, 09:15:

Is there a reason you insist on using FileZilla and can't try one of the many other FTP clients that support 9x?

It’s the one I’m most familiar with

Reply 4 of 20, by JustRob

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roytam1 wrote on 2025-02-10, 09:15:

what version of filezilla (client) you're using?

2.2.19. Buf I tried one version older as well, and it gives the same issues.

Reply 5 of 20, by ldeveraux

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JustRob wrote on 2025-02-10, 13:41:
feda wrote on 2025-02-10, 09:15:

Is there a reason you insist on using FileZilla and can't try one of the many other FTP clients that support 9x?

It’s the one I’m most familiar with

They're all pretty much the same though, right? Insert parameters, connect, transfer, disconnect.

Reply 6 of 20, by Norton Commander

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I tried this version of Filezilla client .and it worked perfectly in Windows 98SE (I don't have Windows 95 at the moment but they are very similar).
http://www.oldversion.com/windows/filezilla-2-1-9a

The host is Windows 10 with Filezilla server.

I also tested with WS_FTP95 LE and was able to transfer files from the Windows 10 host as well.

https://archive.org/details/ws_ftp-limited-ed … n-4.60-98.03.17

Make sure you have the same settings for passive mode on both client and server.

https://superuser.com/questions/847416/ftp-42 … e-does-not-work

Reply 7 of 20, by Garrett W

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These are not random files you're missing. You probably only need to grab the Winsock 2 Update.

Reply 8 of 20, by JustRob

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I found out about the Winsock update and installed it. Also added TCP/IP in Control Panel > Network since it wasn’t added yet.

Installed the oldest version of Filezilla I could find, 2.1.9a. However, after installing it simply does nothing when I run the executable. No errors… just… nothing.

Reply 9 of 20, by JustRob

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ldeveraux wrote on 2025-02-10, 15:42:
JustRob wrote on 2025-02-10, 13:41:
feda wrote on 2025-02-10, 09:15:

Is there a reason you insist on using FileZilla and can't try one of the many other FTP clients that support 9x?

It’s the one I’m most familiar with

They're all pretty much the same though, right? Insert parameters, connect, transfer, disconnect.

Feel free to recommend a better FTP client for Windows 95

Reply 10 of 20, by JustRob

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Norton Commander wrote on 2025-02-10, 17:30:
I tried this version of Filezilla client .and it worked perfectly in Windows 98SE (I don't have Windows 95 at the moment but the […]
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I tried this version of Filezilla client .and it worked perfectly in Windows 98SE (I don't have Windows 95 at the moment but they are very similar).
http://www.oldversion.com/windows/filezilla-2-1-9a

The host is Windows 10 with Filezilla server.

I also tested with WS_FTP95 LE and was able to transfer files from the Windows 10 host as well.

https://archive.org/details/ws_ftp-limited-ed … n-4.60-98.03.17

Make sure you have the same settings for passive mode on both client and server.

https://superuser.com/questions/847416/ftp-42 … e-does-not-work

Actually, in terms of compatibility, in my experience Windows 95 and Windows 98 are very different. Tons of stuff that works easily on 98 does not work on Windows 95 or is a bitch to get working.

Reply 11 of 20, by JustRob

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Tried another version, this time I’m getting the error “The FILEZILLA.EXE file is associated with missing output COMCTL32.DLL:ImageList_Duplicate.”

I give up

Reply 12 of 20, by Norton Commander

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If all you want to do is transfer files over your LAN the easiest way is with HFS (HTTP File Server).
http://www.rejetto.com/hfs/

No client needed, just a web browser to transfer files to/from your Windows 11 PC.

Reply 13 of 20, by Robbbert

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There's plenty of other FTP clients that work on win95 such as WS_FTP LE (meant for Win 3.11 but works on 95), or WarFTP.

Or even just have a shared drive on your network. Windows 10 can see the shared drives of all older versions of Windows. Maybe Win11 can do it too, but I don't have that.

Reply 14 of 20, by leonardo

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Hi JustRob.

Have you thought about trying PuTTY and (p)scp?

I have a Mini tutorial for it in the Essential Utilities-section for my guide on Win95. You didn't mention what you are trying to transfer files from, but SSH is on pretty much everything these days from your modern comp to routers, NASes to everything else. If the comp you're using to burn your CDs runs Linux, even better. You'll be familiar with the tool already.

PuTTY requires WinSock 2, which you've apparently already installed so you should be good to go.

[Install Win95 like you were born in 1985!] on systems like this or this.

Reply 15 of 20, by JustRob

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Robbbert wrote on 2025-02-10, 21:20:

There's plenty of other FTP clients that work on win95 such as WS_FTP LE (meant for Win 3.11 but works on 95), or WarFTP.

Or even just have a shared drive on your network. Windows 10 can see the shared drives of all older versions of Windows. Maybe Win11 can do it too, but I don't have that.

Tried the shared drive thing, enabled SMB1 or whatever in Windows 11, both computers have the same workgroup name, doesn't work. Can't figure it out. Do both computers need to be physically connected to a modem? I really doubt that would work tbh, I can't imagine being able to see my Windows 95 drive on my Windows 11 PC.

Anyway... I got tired of half assed software solutions and plucked my SCSI2SD out of my Windows 98 PC. Hooked it up, and it pretty much worked right away with a FAT32 formatted SD card in there. The BIOS of this PC doesn't actually allow me to boot from SCSI, so it's probably not gonna work as a substitute for the main HDD, but it'll work nicely as an easily swappable external HDD. However it's no good as a permant solution, since the case and SCSI2SD panel don't really suit each other and I can't actually screw it in. Plus I lose a PCI slot to a SCSI card. But it'll work for now, I guess.

Reply 16 of 20, by Garrett W

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I personally use Total Commander on Windows 95 to do FTP, might as well give that a try.

Reply 17 of 20, by JustRob

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Guess I can try that tomorrow. Will prolly be the last thing I try before going the hard way and buying more SCSI gear. With a long cable I can at least dangle it out one of the drive bays so I don't have to open it up every time.

Reply 18 of 20, by Robbbert

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JustRob wrote on 2025-02-10, 22:27:

Tried the shared drive thing, enabled SMB1 or whatever in Windows 11, both computers have the same workgroup name, doesn't work. Can't figure it out. Do both computers need to be physically connected to a modem? I really doubt that would work tbh, I can't imagine being able to see my Windows 95 drive on my Windows 11 PC.

Of course it works, or I wouldn't have said so. I can see the shared drive of my windows for worksgroups machine, and my 98se, in my windows 10, no problem.

In my setup I have all machines in the same workgroup, and they are all on my internal network. Each has its own configured IP address (I don't use DHCP).

All machines in the range WFW to XP can see each other. Newer machines can only see one way, that is equal or older. That's why win10 can see win95, but win95 can't see win10.

Anyway it appears you've found some other solution.

Reply 19 of 20, by JustRob

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Robbbert wrote on 2025-02-11, 03:01:
Of course it works, or I wouldn't have said so. I can see the shared drive of my windows for worksgroups machine, and my 98se, […]
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JustRob wrote on 2025-02-10, 22:27:

Tried the shared drive thing, enabled SMB1 or whatever in Windows 11, both computers have the same workgroup name, doesn't work. Can't figure it out. Do both computers need to be physically connected to a modem? I really doubt that would work tbh, I can't imagine being able to see my Windows 95 drive on my Windows 11 PC.

Of course it works, or I wouldn't have said so. I can see the shared drive of my windows for worksgroups machine, and my 98se, in my windows 10, no problem.

In my setup I have all machines in the same workgroup, and they are all on my internal network. Each has its own configured IP address (I don't use DHCP).

All machines in the range WFW to XP can see each other. Newer machines can only see one way, that is equal or older. That's why win10 can see win95, but win95 can't see win10.

Anyway it appears you've found some other solution.

Just wanted to say I got it working, I was doing something wrong. Sorry about being cynical and doubting what you said.