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First post, by byte_76

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I managed to get my hands on a Chaintech 5AGM2 super socket 7 motherboard.
Unfortunately there were were no adapters or brackets included.

Having a look through the documentation on the retroweb and physically examining the board, I found that there is an MIR connector between the PCI slots but it uses a non-standard 2mm pitch (or spacing between the pins).

I also noted that there seems to be solder points on the board next to the AT keyboard socket. (partially obscured by the AT socket)

I don't have any PS/2 brackets or adapters in my spares bin at the moment.

So I'm wondering what my options are to get a mouse working on this motherboard.

Would it work to remove the AT keyboard connector and then solder in two PS/2 connectors, (the holes are side-by-side) and would that just work or would it need additional components on the board?

Alternatively, I either need to get hold of the correct MIR adapter or make up an adapter.

What do you guys think?

Another question is the CPU voltage support.
The manual says 2.0v is supported but then it only indicates jumper setting from 2.2v upwards.
I'd like to run a K6-2+ 550MHz which requires 2.0v but how do I configure the jumpers for that voltage?

Reply 1 of 8, by Repo Man11

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We had a thread on this a few months ago, have a look. Replacement for Chaintech 5AGM2 bracket?

I ran a K6-2+ 450 @ 500 MHz on mine years ago, so I left it at 2.2 volts and didn't worry about it. Though default voltage would be better, .2 over isn't really much of an issue. Sphere478 has done a bit of work on this sort of thing, and he found that on some SS7 boards, taking all of the jumpers off the voltage setting pins can give you an undocumented lower voltage setting. This would be something that you would have to verify with a meter. Worst case, 2.2 should be fine.

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Reply 2 of 8, by byte_76

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Thanks for the link.
I saw that the OP managed to get an adapter bracket with a connector that has 2mm pitch but it was not mentioned where he bought that.

Also, I’m still wondering if I can remove the AT keyboard socket and solder in two PS/2 sockets.
Would that just work or does it require additional modding?

Regarding the CPU voltage, I agree that the slight over-volt should be okay but I’d prefer to configure the correct voltage if I can.

Reply 3 of 8, by PARKE

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From the photo on the Retro Web it appears that your board has an EL7571 voltage regulator chip. The voltage settings in the Chaintech manual follow the settings in the overview on page 12 of the regulator spec sheet. On the bottom half of the overview you find all the possible settings. See attached spec sheet
No jumpers at all will signal [no cpu]. You could try the setting for 2.0 volt too but it is uncertain if that wil work because the fifth jumper may not be made functional on that motherboard. But 2.1 or 2.2 volt is really no problem for this family of cpu's.

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Reply 4 of 8, by byte_76

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PARKE wrote on 2025-02-17, 12:17:
From the photo on the Retro Web it appears that your board has an EL7571 voltage regulator chip. The voltage settings in the Cha […]
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From the photo on the Retro Web it appears that your board has an EL7571 voltage regulator chip. The voltage settings in the Chaintech manual follow the settings in the overview on page 12 of the regulator spec sheet. On the bottom half of the overview you find all the possible settings. See attached spec sheet
No jumpers at all will signal [no cpu]. You could try the setting for 2.0 volt too but it is uncertain if that wil work because the fifth jumper may not be made functional on that motherboard. But 2.1 or 2.2 volt is really no problem for this family of cpu's.

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This is why I joined Vogons. Always someone to teach us newbies something new.

Thank you so much for that info. I think 2.1V will be perfect. It’s the same voltage that I had to set on my Asus P5A-B which does not work on 2.0V either.

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Reply 5 of 8, by PARKE

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I have a 1.6v cpu on ASUS P5A @ 2.1v and there is really no problem, it does not even get very warm under 'normal' use.

Reply 6 of 8, by Repo Man11

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byte_76 wrote on 2025-02-17, 11:27:
Thanks for the link. I saw that the OP managed to get an adapter bracket with a connector that has 2mm pitch but it was not ment […]
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Thanks for the link.
I saw that the OP managed to get an adapter bracket with a connector that has 2mm pitch but it was not mentioned where he bought that.

Also, I’m still wondering if I can remove the AT keyboard socket and solder in two PS/2 sockets.
Would that just work or does it require additional modding?

Regarding the CPU voltage, I agree that the slight over-volt should be okay but I’d prefer to configure the correct voltage if I can.

You might try sending him a private message and ask him where he purchased it. Now that you know it exists you know what to look for. There is always the possibility to do what I did if you have some dead CDROMs to salvage the connectors.

I've no advice on the idea of replacing the AT keyboard port with a PS/2 - there are other members of Vogons who might.

After watching many YouTube videos about older computer hardware, YouTube began recommending videos about trains - are they trying to tell me something?

Reply 7 of 8, by PARKE

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byte_76 wrote on 2025-02-17, 11:27:

I saw that the OP managed to get an adapter bracket with a connector that has 2mm pitch but it was not mentioned where he bought that.

When you google [female connector 2mm pitch 8ways double row] you get a couple of options. Molex is one of them, see attached. Whether they fit on the cables of the adapter is an open question.

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Reply 8 of 8, by byte_76

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PARKE wrote on 2025-02-18, 12:52:
byte_76 wrote on 2025-02-17, 11:27:

I saw that the OP managed to get an adapter bracket with a connector that has 2mm pitch but it was not mentioned where he bought that.

When you google [female connector 2mm pitch 8ways double row] you get a couple of options. Molex is one of them, see attached. Whether they fit on the cables of the adapter is an open question.

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That molex connector does not look like it will fit.

I have ordered some female header pin connectors and will make up the USB and PS/2 adapter brackets that I need.

Another option that I would not mind trying is to remove the AT keyboard DIN socket and solder in green and purple PS/2 sockets as there seems to be solder points on the board for those.
I’m not sure whether that would work though, and would not want to do that unless I’m really quite confident that it would be successful. (The backplate isn’t really an issue because I don’t have an AT case anyway so I’ll just make a plan with an old ATX case)