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First post, by EPoX

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I can´t find any step by step tutorial that shows how to connect a DVD drive to a SB16 isa card

i have an ISA SB16 CT2290 card and i have been searching on google for the original drivers or cd images for that model and i found nothing.

What drivers should i be using? I have a machine running DOS 6.22 (it also has win3.1 but i barely use it) and has the CT2290 card installed. i want to use it to get DOS games with audio and CD support..

where should i start? i connect the IDE cable from the DVD drive to the Soundblaster16 card, is there any creative utility that installs and configures it automatically?

some of the SB16 installs i used in the past i think never mentioned a CD-rom drive being installed. The install only is just IRQ and DMA and it modifies your autoexec so you get sound when you boot the pc. D0es the DVD drive part have to be done manually in autoexec.bat and config.sys ?

Reply 1 of 11, by Joseph_Joestar

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I can't help with the drivers, but here's a video by LGR where he's connecting the same CT2290 model to a CD-ROM.

From what I gather, he first used a floppy disk for installing the CD-ROM drivers and then a disc for installing the SB16 drivers and utilities. Not sure if he ever imaged those and uploaded them anywhere.

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Reply 2 of 11, by cyclone3d

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The MS-DOS boot disks generally try to install a CD drive. The driver needs to be in config.sys and mscdex needs to be in autoexec.bat.

As long as the port is IDE, it should be easy to get working... I think. The CD-ROM drivers are pretty good about finding the connected drive.

There are much better (use less RAM) than some other CD-ROM drivers.

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Reply 3 of 11, by Jo22

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DOS drivers for ATAPI DVD-ROM drives can be found here: http://win31.de/edrivers.htm

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Reply 4 of 11, by st31276a

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dos uses sbide.sys to enable the ide port on the sb16 - it comes on the utility diskette.

Windows 95 just detects it out of the box.

Reply 5 of 11, by EPoX

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st31276a wrote on 2025-03-17, 12:19:

dos uses sbide.sys to enable the ide port on the sb16 - it comes on the utility diskette.

Windows 95 just detects it out of the box.

i was reading about this SBIDE.YS , but i found different comments on the forum for example

Put following line in config.sys:
DEVICE=path\sbide.sys /D:MSCD000 /P:primary,irq,secondary
and, in autoexec.bat
mscdex.exe /M:10 /D:MSCD000

or

You could try adding multiple SBIDE.SYS lines to your CONFIG.SYS:

DEVICE=path\sbide.sys /D:MSCD001 /P:170,15,3f6

DEVICE=path\sbide.sys /D:MSCD002 /P:1E8,11,3EE

DEVICE=path\sbide.sys /D:MSCD003 /P:1E8,12,3EE

DEVICE=path\sbide.sys /D:MSCD004 /P:168,10,36E

DEVICE=path\sbide.sys /D:MSCD005 /P:168,11,36E

and seeing which one 'hits', but still-- that's a PnP card and may need to be configured with CTCM. In AUTOEXEC.BAT have the MSCDEX line look like this:

C:\path\mscdex.exe /D:MSCD001 /D:MSCD002 /D:MSCD003 /D:MSCD004 /D:MSCD005

what i don´t understand is that "P:170,15,3f6" or " P:1E8,11,3EE" or "P:1E8,11,3EE etc"
those combinations are if you put the ide cable on the panasonic interface? or in the ide interface in the soundcard?

Reply 6 of 11, by wbahnassi

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Those magical values are supposed to be identified by the CD ROM driver installer. You need to find the Creative CD ROM disk and run Install.exe from there, and it should identify those numbers for you and insert them automatically in your CONFIG.SYS. Make sure the disk you find is for IDE drives, not their earlier drives which don't use SBIDE.SYS altogether.

Barring that, you could probably go to the drive on Windows 95 and see what resources it is using, that would guide you to the port and IRQ used by it.

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Reply 7 of 11, by EPoX

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2025-03-17, 06:12:

I can't help with the drivers, but here's a video by LGR where he's connecting the same CT2290 model to a CD-ROM.

From what I gather, he first used a floppy disk for installing the CD-ROM drivers and then a disc for installing the SB16 drivers and utilities. Not sure if he ever imaged those and uploaded them anywhere.

thanks, I took a long time to slow down the video from LGR

he used a kit, and the kit must have come with a creative cd-rom drive with creative/panasonic ide interface.

i was able to see on the video how he connected the ide cable to the [panasonic interface], not the [ide interface] of the sound card

and also saw that his kit came with a floppy and the floppy sticker had "(CR-563)" , both cd and floppy are available in archive.org,

now i wonder...if i connect a dvd drive to the IDE interface of the SB16 and use the same floppy....would it work or maybe the floppy installation file is only for the creative cdrom drive

Reply 8 of 11, by kixs

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Just try it out or use the standard I/O controller in your computer to also connect the DVD drive.

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Reply 9 of 11, by st31276a

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EPoX wrote on 2025-03-17, 14:06:

i was reading about this SBIDE.YS , but i found different comments on the forum for example

The setup program on the "sound blaster cd rom" diskette writes the line with the correct magic values to config.sys, as stated above.

I have only used sbide.sys with ide cdroms, dont know if it also works for panasonic/mitsumi as I never had any of those.

It should work with any cd/dvd drive for a sound blaster with an ide port.

Reply 10 of 11, by wbahnassi

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SBIDE.SYS is just as it says, for IDE. The Creative drivers for Mitsumi/Panasonic are different (CDMKE.SYS, SBCD.SYS, SBP-CD.SYS). I have builds with Creative IDE (4x CD) and with Creative Mitsumi (1x and 2x CD). So I use the suitable driver for each case.

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Reply 11 of 11, by OVERK|LL

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Just a tip:
I was using one of these in my PS/1 and my Plextor DVD-R drive would not function properly with the IDE interface on the card. An LG CD-ROM drive worked just fine (56x). The Plextor worked fine on the onboard IDE controller. The Plextor would act like it was going to work, but it would not reliably read disks. I actually thought the problem was the drive, because it worked properly with the other drive, but I tried it in another computer and it worked fine, which prompted me to then test it with the onboard IDE and how I discovered it was a compatibility issue between it and the SB card.

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