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First post, by Melchieor

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Hi everyone ,
My Dell XPi CD pentium 166MMX , 64MB ram freezes after the memory count down . Some times it will get to reading the floppy disk drive and freeze , other times it freezes before that. One time I was able to get to the bios and it didn’t freeze while in bios. I can press escape and bypass the memory test but then it freezes . I took out all the ram sticks and left it with the built in 16MB but still froze. It does have a pcmcia card that I took out but same issue. I also took out the 2gb hdd and same issue. What could be wrong ?anything else I can try? I purchased it on eBay recently . Thanks

Reply 1 of 11, by dominusprog

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Can you post a photo of the RAM bay?

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Reply 2 of 11, by Melchieor

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Sure thing .

Reply 3 of 11, by dominusprog

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I wanted to see the chips beneath the sticks. Check the RAM chips soldered on the motherboard for broken solder joints or shorts.

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Aztech Pro16 II-3D PnP ❇ 8.4GiB Quantum Fireball ❇ Win95 OSR2 Plus!

Reply 4 of 11, by Melchieor

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No problem. I have taken a picture of what’s underneath the 2 ram sticks which I assume is the built in memory.

Reply 5 of 11, by dominusprog

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Melchieor wrote on 2025-04-25, 23:38:

No problem. I have taken a picture of what’s underneath the 2 ram sticks which I assume is the built in memory.

Are sure? Have you checked all the pins on the bottom row?

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A-Trend ATC-1020 V1.1 ❇ Cyrix 6x86 150+ @ 120MHz ❇ 32MiB EDO RAM (8MiBx4) ❇ A-Trend S3 Trio64V2 2MiB
Aztech Pro16 II-3D PnP ❇ 8.4GiB Quantum Fireball ❇ Win95 OSR2 Plus!

Reply 6 of 11, by Melchieor

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How do I check the pins ? Physically they look fine ? With a voltmeter ?

Reply 7 of 11, by dominusprog

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Melchieor wrote on 2025-04-27, 14:28:

How do I check the pins ? Physically they look fine ? With a voltmeter ?

Poke them gently with a sharp object like a tweezer to see if any of them moves.

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A-Trend ATC-1020 V1.1 ❇ Cyrix 6x86 150+ @ 120MHz ❇ 32MiB EDO RAM (8MiBx4) ❇ A-Trend S3 Trio64V2 2MiB
Aztech Pro16 II-3D PnP ❇ 8.4GiB Quantum Fireball ❇ Win95 OSR2 Plus!

Reply 8 of 11, by Melchieor

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They all look ok to me . I don’t think that’s the issue . Could it be cmos battery ? I see a large green battery when I opened the laptop.

Reply 9 of 11, by dominusprog

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Well, replacing the battery is a good idea. Can you post a picture of the battery?

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A-Trend ATC-1020 V1.1 ❇ Cyrix 6x86 150+ @ 120MHz ❇ 32MiB EDO RAM (8MiBx4) ❇ A-Trend S3 Trio64V2 2MiB
Aztech Pro16 II-3D PnP ❇ 8.4GiB Quantum Fireball ❇ Win95 OSR2 Plus!

Reply 10 of 11, by jtchip

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Melchieor wrote on 2025-04-30, 13:51:

Could it be cmos battery ? I see a large green battery when I opened the laptop.

If you're referring to the internal NiCd battery, that's the reserve battery, it's not needed for the machine to boot. Mine leaked and actually destroyed the traces connecting it to the daughterboard (amongst other things) so I've simply removed it.

Check the connections to the optical and floppy drives, I've found that they need be connected for it to complete POST, at least on the same revision A05 BIOS that you have. I don't remember at which stage it got stuck, could after the memory test (I can check again at the weekend).

Reply 11 of 11, by Melchieor

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I removed and repligged the floppy and optical drives with the same issue. I do think it has something to do with the optical drive as the floppy drive will engage and then get stuck. Perhaps it’s trying the optical drive . I do get power on the optical drive. Wish I could get into the bios again somehow .