guys, Supermium updated to chrome 132, still keeps V2 thank good, and at least in my computer, this is the first chrome version i test that gpu hardware acceleration not give me any problems or glitches in XP

Seamonkey 2.53.21 Beta 1 released a couple days ago, but also the final release will be the last 32-bit x86 version of Seamonkey.

I stopped using Supermium because it just gave a blank screen. Going back to an older version fixed it. Can't remember the versions involved.

Robbbert wrote on 2025-05-04, 04:34:

I stopped using Supermium because it just gave a blank screen. Going back to an older version fixed it. Can't remember the versions involved.

I update to every version, never have a big problem. XP SP3

Give 132 a try, im testing since yesterday without issues

Been a long time since I messed with Supermium on XP, it didn't have any GPU acceleration back then, no WebGL content ran, Google Street View was super laggy, there were issues with font rendering, apparently when sites specified font sizes in "em", it crapped out, fonts just disappeared unless you disabled sandbox, an issue that was there even with early Chinese' attempts. Non-working Web Serial and USB APIs...basically everything that make Chromium interesting (to me). Overall buggy eXPerience.

People are weird. While I'm wondering why I can't have fully featured DirectSound under XP x64, people are grieving 32-bit compatibility and support for CPUs from late 80s

UCyborg wrote on 2025-05-04, 12:39:

Been a long time since I messed with Supermium on XP, it didn't have any GPU acceleration back then, no WebGL content ran, Google Street View was super laggy, there were issues with font rendering, apparently when sites specified font sizes in "em", it crapped out, fonts just disappeared unless you disabled sandbox, an issue that was there even with early Chinese' attempts. Non-working Web Serial and USB APIs...basically everything that make Chromium interesting (to me). Overall buggy eXPerience.

Nothing of what do you say is of my interest at all, i cant test or tell you if is working, exept font rendering, and since many updates i dont have font problems, not in GUI or Websites. I think is or full or mostly fixed

I use XP 32bits because old drivers i have and 16bit app support, i use too many 16bits softwares to a full move to XP x64

I really only use Chromium seriously on a phone, otherwise it's more of a what will they think of stuffing in a web browser next kind of curiosity.

It's 99% Pale Moon on PC here. I keep SeaMonkey around, though not sure what niche is it supposed to fill these days. Just having both mail client and web browser in one application? I mean, the application would be more capable if it used UXP as backbone. Googleized web is an ongoing struggle and it probably hit SeaMonkey the most of still maintained alternatives.

UCyborg wrote on 2025-05-04, 14:18:

I really only use Chromium seriously on a phone, otherwise it's more of a what will they think of stuffing in a web browser next kind of curiosity.

It's 99% Pale Moon on PC here. I keep SeaMonkey around, though not sure what niche is it supposed to fill these days. Just having both mail client and web browser in one application? I mean, the application would be more capable if it used UXP as backbone. Googleized web is an ongoing struggle and it probably hit SeaMonkey the most of still maintained alternatives.

I dont like chromium much neither, but well, is the only option in XP! anyways since yesterday im browsing in all sites i need for fun and work, and no problem. I even yesterday did a teams meeting without issues

I used palemoon until stoped XP support, still use Seamonkey for email, love it

Eh, D3D9 ANGLE is just useless in 2025. This old thing works - Ellie Goulding - Lights - an interactive music experience by HelloEnjoy, used to be hosted on http://lights.helloenjoy.com/, now it's only on Wayback Machine:

Lots of errors in the console though and failure of internal UpdateSurface call though.

But otherwise...

Google Street View

HexGL (only skybox renders)

Lots of errors on https://www.shadertoy.com/ with various shaders, as expected. Is that guy working on Supermium really serious about considering doing WebGPU via D3D9 in the future? WebGL is old stuff and pretty broken. I suspect different driver wouldn't change anything, have NVIDIA 355.98. Forcing OpenGL as ANGLE backend makes it fallback to SwiftShader again.

Last but not least, how the heck do you install user scripts in Supermium? Browser just goes out of the way to block them, doesn't matter if I use old TamperMonkey 5.1.1 or the latest. That wasn't the problem in the old versions.

UCyborg wrote on 2025-05-05, 22:09:

Eh, D3D9 ANGLE is just useless in 2025. This old thing works - Ellie Goulding - Lights - an interactive music experience by Hell […]
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Eh, D3D9 ANGLE is just useless in 2025. This old thing works - Ellie Goulding - Lights - an interactive music experience by HelloEnjoy, used to be hosted on http://lights.helloenjoy.com/, now it's only on Wayback Machine:

Lots of errors in the console though and failure of internal UpdateSurface call though.

But otherwise...

Google Street View

HexGL (only skybox renders)

Lots of errors on https://www.shadertoy.com/ with various shaders, as expected. Is that guy working on Supermium really serious about considering doing WebGPU via D3D9 in the future? WebGL is old stuff and pretty broken. I suspect different driver wouldn't change anything, have NVIDIA 355.98. Forcing OpenGL as ANGLE backend makes it fallback to SwiftShader again.

Last but not least, how the heck do you install user scripts in Supermium? Browser just goes out of the way to block them, doesn't matter if I use old TamperMonkey 5.1.1 or the latest. That wasn't the problem in the old versions.

No idea about the light stuff, but google maps and street work great here

About this WebGPU stuff, no idea, i dont have any interest, i get 2D acceleration in my intel onboard and work fine in supermium. I use the web browser for forums, email, work stuff like online spreadheets, teams, zoom, and this garbage stuff jeje and for me, my only interest beside this is youtube for music and github and similar websites for coding, all of this works fine. I dont play games offline, less online jeje

The game work, slow but start

About shaders i cant help, i dont have any interest in 3d stuff, then i cant judge if errors etc

Sure they display properly (very slowly), but that's with defaults without any 3D acceleration, I'm testing with chrome://flags/#ignore-gpu-blocklist.

I also wonder about user scripts, I can install them from https://greasyfork.org/, but it used to be possible to install also from disk by dragging and dropping the user.js file on the browser. The wonders of modern Chromium I guess.

UCyborg wrote on 2025-05-05, 22:58:

Sure they display properly (very slowly), but that's with defaults without any 3D acceleration, I'm testing with chrome://flags/#ignore-gpu-blocklist.

Yes same here, maybe my gpu is less capable and chrome dont activate most of stuff.. no idea. My GPU is the integrated intel HD 630, CPU i5-2520M

I have ignore-gpu-blocklist because i get better scroll in webs like youtube, thats all my interest in acceleration

UCyborg wrote on 2025-05-05, 22:58:

I also wonder about user scripts, I can install them from https://greasyfork.org/, but it used to be possible to install also from disk by dragging and dropping the user.js file on the browser. The wonders of modern Chromium I guess.

no idea about scripts, never have much interest in plugins/scripts for webrowser beside ublock origin, but i have violentmonkey, and some scripts from greasyfork for download videos rom youtube etc. If you have some js to test i will do

IDK, maybe NVIDIA drivers are flaky on XP, I'd have to test on Win10/11 with D3D9 ANGLE setting to be sure. 355.98 is believed by some members here to be the ultimate XP driver version. No issues with running user scripts, just installing them by drag-and-drop seems broken.

Tried Supermium on work laptop (Win10, NVIDIA), Google Street View worked correctly with ANGLE forced to D3D9, likewise old WebGL stuff like HexGL renders correctly. There were errors on https://www.shadertoy.com/ and got the browser to hang, but I think that's expected with D3D9 that can't cover full spectrum of features. D3D11 is OK.

Also didn't have the problem with installing user scripts with dragging and dropping like on XP.

New version of Supermium was released recently, drag-and-drop works on XP now. Apparently it was disabled in previous release due to responsiveness issues.