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Reply 20 of 36, by qdsong88@

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Mandrew wrote on 2025-06-28, 17:02:

New wifey, man and I'm not even kidding. Nobody touches my shit unless I'm in a coffin and the wife knows it. Stand up for those treasures!

Freedom! Fighting!
This reminds me of 'Brave heart' - one of my favorite movies

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Reply 21 of 36, by qdsong88@

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AlexZ wrote on 2025-06-28, 14:54:

Sounds like unequal relationship. You do not threaten to throw away her 30 shoes and clothes. You do not care how much she spends on them.

hahaha :)

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Reply 22 of 36, by henneberg

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To limit space consumption on and at my desk, I made a solution working with different generations of PCs.
Links for the attached drawing:
https://github.com/No0ne/ps2x2pico
https://github.com/necroware/ps2-serial-mouse-adapter
https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005008742204684.html (USB2.0)
For the monitor VGA input, I will use a simple 2-port VGA switch to select 486 (UMC u5sx) or Win98se.

Reply 23 of 36, by ElectroSoldier

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qdsong88@ wrote on 2025-06-29, 13:22:
ElectroSoldier wrote on 2025-06-28, 19:23:
qdsong88@ wrote on 2025-06-28, 13:08:
I have taken up too much space, and my wife said she will throw away some of it without my consent. What should I do? What do […]
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I have taken up too much space, and my wife said she will throw away some of it without my consent.
What should I do?
What do you think I should agree to let my wife throw away?
386? 486? 586? Hard drive? Graphics card? main board? But these are all my treasures

Oh my god, I feel like my end is coming……

Theyre like Kleanex mate, you use them then you throw them away.

Women come and go, computers... You'll regret it if you get rid of any of them.

Okay, I admit you're a tough guy :)

Noooo
Just fed up of it mate.

It sounds like she isnt in tune with you.

Reply 24 of 36, by wiretap

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3/4 of the basement and the whole computer room. I keep it all organized and my wife doesn't care.

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Reply 25 of 36, by gerry

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Rather than respond to pressure think about the stuff you actually want to use, the stuff that makes a good future/backup use and the stuff that actually has no value for you after all. Old cases and PSUs are good candidates for disposal, as are faulty components you wont fix and motherboards that don't support your components.

It's not about clearing out stuff in fear, but about ordering your collection to give you more interesting things to do without trawling through stuff that gives you nothing

Reply 26 of 36, by Intel486dx33

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Women want room for their Thrift store “Nick-Nacks” and Flower pots.
They just want attention.

Reply 28 of 36, by chinny22

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I have similar issues, in the end we made the deal the garage is my "man cave" and she gets the spare bedroom as her office.
I also understand wanting the house to look nice and a bunch of old computers for most people is the opposite of looking nice.
But you are also allowed at least 1 room to be yourself, and you can close the door when visitors come.

You can also maximise space. I've 15 computers set up permanently on some shelving hooked up to a couple of KVM's
Unused cases are also a great place to store/hide spare hardware. You can fit a lot of things loose in a case.

But if you do need to have at least a bit of a clear out it depend on what era your most interested in.
Personally I have no need for anything pre 486 and even then my P3's could cover my dos gaming era if I really need.
For others they may not need anything as fast as a P3 but have many games that are speed sensitive.
Look at any hardware you haven't used in the past 2 years, If you haven't needed it for that long fair chance you don't NEED it as such. more just want.
But only you know what's important for you and what's disposable

Reply 29 of 36, by Unknown_K

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Most of my full basement, a few in my room, a couple I am working on in the living room, and some overflow in the garage.

Collector of old computers, hardware, and software

Reply 30 of 36, by DaveDDS

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Multiple rooms and storage area in the basement of a large bungalow... Now I'm trying to downsize and have been cutting it down a
LOT... much has gone to museums... but... still probable a good roomful (to see how much there was, look at "Daves Old Computers")

Wife never really complained too much (but she was happy every time a load went out)

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Reply 31 of 36, by Archer57

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We live an an apartment (most people do out here). I have a bunch of old computers - basically 3x4 "tower of towers" near my desk and a bunch of parts in storage. I do not store cases and stuff i otherwise do not consider valuable like PSUs, old HDDs, etc. With limited space the stuff has to be packed in a compact way and it is. I do not have a luxury of being able to fill whole room with old computers and i do not try doing that.

Old computers are not my only hobby, there are also 3D printers, flashlights an whatnot.

Wife... i guess i should be really grateful, but we've agreed to one simple thing a long time ago - do not spoil other one's enjoyment when they got something they are really excited about which seems useless/stupid to you. Yes, this includes old computers, 100s shoes, whatever. But for this to work obviously both sides also have to stay reasonable and not try to turn the apartment into hoarder's den...

A threat to throw away without consent? Honestly i can not really imagine doing that, from one side or the other. That's either a last ditch attempt to deal with "hoarder's den" situation, or complete lack of respect. My reaction would be an unpleasant conversation to figure out which one it is, not hurrying to discard something i do not want to.

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Reply 32 of 36, by H3nrik V!

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chinny22 wrote on 2025-07-01, 00:12:

You can also maximise space. I've 15 computers set up permanently on some shelving hooked up to a couple of KVM's
Unused cases are also a great place to store/hide spare hardware. You can fit a lot of things loose in a case.

Oh, I've considered doing that ... The thing is, I'm so much into the tinkering with hardware, so I always have everything open, and swapping parts now and then 🤣

If it's dual it's kind of cool ... 😎

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Reply 33 of 36, by Lutsoad

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We have a saying that roughly translates to "The best roommate is the one who doesn't live with you".
My girlfriend has her own place and I have mine and we never interfere with each other. I'm free to do whatever and it's heaven, couldn't imagine someone limiting my space to one room in the house I own. The term "man cave" is just a fancy way to describe a bad compromise.

Reply 34 of 36, by feipoa

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qdsong88@ wrote on 2025-06-28, 13:08:
I have taken up too much space, and my wife said she will throw away some of it without my consent. What should I do? What do […]
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I have taken up too much space, and my wife said she will throw away some of it without my consent.
What should I do?
What do you think I should agree to let my wife throw away?
386? 486? 586? Hard drive? Graphics card? main board? But these are all my treasures

Oh my god, I feel like my end is coming……

How long have you been married? Some women experience increased control issues due to hormonal changes during perimenopause. Taking control of your personal property may be just the beginning. Plan carefully which situations you will yield to, and which you will not. In my view, provided you keep your computer clutter neatly put away and that it doesn't consume more than half the home's storage capacity, I would be surprised if she had any complaint at all. If your wife really starts throwing stuff out, educate her as to the eBay resale values. If you have children, or are planning on it, you can try my scheme and argue that this vintage stuff will provide a nice inheritance for the children. Obviously, they still need to sell it at some point, but that will give them something to do.

Lutsoad wrote on 2025-07-01, 09:27:

We have a saying that roughly translates to "The best roommate is the one who doesn't live with you".
My girlfriend has her own place and I have mine and we never interfere with each other. I'm free to do whatever and it's heaven...

I remember fondly these weekend relationships.

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Reply 35 of 36, by Ozzuneoj

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Archer57 wrote on 2025-07-01, 07:29:

Old computers are not my only hobby, there are also 3D printers, flashlights an whatnot.

Wife... i guess i should be really grateful, but we've agreed to one simple thing a long time ago - do not spoil other one's enjoyment when they got something they are really excited about which seems useless/stupid to you. Yes, this includes old computers, 100s shoes, whatever. But for this to work obviously both sides also have to stay reasonable and not try to turn the apartment into hoarder's den...

A threat to throw away without consent? Honestly i can not really imagine doing that, from one side or the other. That's either a last ditch attempt to deal with "hoarder's den" situation, or complete lack of respect. My reaction would be an unpleasant conversation to figure out which one it is, not hurrying to discard something i do not want to.

Sounds similar to the situation with my wife and I.

No doubt, we have too much stuff, and we both have similar struggles with parting with things, but we own our (really old, decrepit, but largish) home so it isn't like we don't have space. We've been married close to 15 years and I can't imagine just throwing away something of hers or her doing that to me. She is also well aware of the fact that me reselling computer stuff that I find\test\repair ends up making a real difference for us financially. I'm entirely self employed (doing mostly non-computer related work), and she's supportive of whatever side work I do that allows us to spend more time together with our daughter or doing other important things. I've probably actually sold 2% of what I've collected in the past 10 years of purposeful collecting, though it is often the slightly more valuable or easier to sell items that go.

If I were in an apartment I would definitely have turned down a lot more stuff over the years, but I have made good use of this space. If I find a good deal on a pile of stuff, I have space to be opportunistic while still leaving plenty of space to have a bunch of people over if we want.

My biggest dilemma of course is when I manage to put together some really nice setup that I would love to just have permanently set up on display, ready to use. Like, my loaded IBM 5150+5153 that I've put a lot of work into (currently set up in the corner of my wife's office if you can believe that... 🤣) , IBM PS/2 Model 90, Apple IIe, or the various other "maxed out" PCs I've put together... or all the CRTs I've hoarded collected. I want them all out on display somewhere, ready to use, but that is just not practical.

Anyway, long story short, we'd be just as content with none of this junk around, but since we currently have the space and I am able to fund the hobby, build the value of my collection and pay some bills with this stuff, I am able to keep doing this without really even having any strictly agreed on rules about where stuff goes or how much I have.

If I end up with anything huge (like the complete retail boxed 1993 Dell system + crt I bought, refurbished and resold), I try to move that stuff on relatively quickly unless it is just so incredible cool that I must keep it. Once in a while I will also do a massive culling of "fluff", but that mostly consists of used\junked 10-15 year old office machines that I've been given as well as boxes full of junk cards\boards that I have gone through that are only good for scrap. The idea is to keep reducing the amount of stuff that has little or no value and keep increasing the "density" of the rare\interesting\valuable stuff in the collection.

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 36 of 36, by TheMobRules

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I usually keep the one or two retro systems I'm currently using near my desk, and I also have a dedicated room with all my tools and workbench where there's usually some retro stuff in various states of disrepair. Other than that, the bulk of my items remains stored away from sight.

My main problem is not storage space, but rather a complete lack of a systematic way of storing all this stuff, whenever I want to find something I cannot remember where it is and this usually results in me pulling everything out until I find what I'm looking for. Then I have to put everything else back in and hope I won't be needing some other small item that is in the depths of my storage area.

The other day I was looking for a Biostar 486 motherboard that I ended up finding inside an Intel C2D motherboard box, or a sound card among a bunch of multi/IO cards inside a Western Digital HD box... sigh.