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Reply 300 of 313, by feipoa

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Depending on the 3rd party IC-only supplier you choose, you can specify "new, original only" for the IC's and I have had good luck with this. When asked, they will often say if the part is or isn't new/original.

When I check the IC support list on my TL866II Plus, I see no mention of the EPM3064 or the ATF1504. http://www.xgecu.com/MiniPro/TL866II_List.txt

Similarly, when I check the support list on my Wellon VP-390, it also doesn't mention mention support for the EPM3064 or the ATF 1504. http://www.weilei.com/VP-390list.htm

As such, I am guessing that you used the TL866 to programme only the ATMEGA8A, then used the FT232H to programme the ATF1504? Can we order the ATF1504 pre-programmed? I recall seeing some of these options when ordering parts from Digikey.

Indeed, the HASL PCB's might reduce interest. If I ever have time for this, I'm going with gold contacts. The bracket can be mickeymoused if you don't have a 3D printer. This project is fairly low on my priority list because I already have two of the Rio444 original units, but could use another unit for my testbed. I was hoping that by the time I'm more eager for another one of these ISA cards, that the war in Ukraine will be over and I can merely order another adaptor from Rio444.

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Reply 301 of 313, by maxtherabbit

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feipoa wrote on 2025-06-28, 05:06:

When I check the IC support list on my TL866II Plus, I see no mention of the EPM3064 or the ATF1504. http://www.xgecu.com/MiniPro/TL866II_List.txt

Similarly, when I check the support list on my Wellon VP-390, it also doesn't mention mention support for the EPM3064 or the ATF 1504. http://www.weilei.com/VP-390list.htm

As such, I am guessing that you used the TL866 to programme only the ATMEGA8A, then used the FT232H to programme the ATF1504?

Correct, that's why I had to use JTAG

feipoa wrote on 2025-06-28, 05:06:

Can we order the ATF1504 pre-programmed? I recall seeing some of these options when ordering parts from Digikey.

Yes they do offer it for the ATF1504. I don't know what they charge for this service or whether a MOQ applies however.

feipoa wrote on 2025-06-28, 05:06:

Indeed, the HASL PCB's might reduce interest.

Who's interest 🤣? I ordered a prototype run of 5 for me and me alone. I have zero interest in ever manufacturing assembled cards for sale to others, and I didn't want to dump any money into this before I was sure it would work.

I did sell 2/5 of the bare, unassembled PCBs to other members here at cost but that was offered only out of courtesy and I warned them about the substandard surface treatment.

Reply 302 of 313, by feipoa

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I mean, the HASL PCB's might have less interest for people requesting your left-over bare PCB's compared to if those PCB's were ENIG. That's all I was saying. It's really not important. If I ever get around to this project, I wouldn't mind assembling extras for members for direct donations to charity. Same applies for any extras I've assembled.

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Reply 303 of 313, by maxtherabbit

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WRT the mounting bracket:

If someone with more CAD experience than me could take a mechanical drawing of a regular keystone slot bracket and overlay the circle cuts from Rio444's image included with the firmware package to make a STEP, DXF or EPS file then anyone who wants one could just send the file to send cut send and get individual parts or short runs really cheap.

Come to think of it keystone might already have a step file available for the blank bracket. I'll check some EDA sites later

Reply 304 of 313, by maxtherabbit

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They do indeed!

Is there anyone here who could amend the attached STEP file with the three drilled holes shown in the attached image?

Reply 305 of 313, by Yoghoo

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maxtherabbit wrote on 2025-07-02, 13:45:

They do indeed!

Is there anyone here who could amend the attached STEP file with the three drilled holes shown in the attached image?

Made a quick stl file. Not test printed it so don't know how it will fit. If you need a step file you can convert it online if you search for stl to step.

Reply 306 of 313, by maxtherabbit

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Yoghoo wrote on 2025-07-02, 16:18:
maxtherabbit wrote on 2025-07-02, 13:45:

They do indeed!

Is there anyone here who could amend the attached STEP file with the three drilled holes shown in the attached image?

Made a quick stl file. Not test printed it so don't know how it will fit. If you need a step file you can convert it online if you search for stl to step.

Thanks! I'll print one off to test fitment, but ultimately I'd like to get one made of sheet metal by send cut send.

Reply 307 of 313, by Yoghoo

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maxtherabbit wrote on 2025-07-02, 17:03:
Yoghoo wrote on 2025-07-02, 16:18:
maxtherabbit wrote on 2025-07-02, 13:45:

They do indeed!

Is there anyone here who could amend the attached STEP file with the three drilled holes shown in the attached image?

Made a quick stl file. Not test printed it so don't know how it will fit. If you need a step file you can convert it online if you search for stl to step.

Thanks! I'll print one off to test fitment, but ultimately I'd like to get one made of sheet metal by send cut send.

You're welcome. I love functional 3D prints especially for my retro hobby but to be honest for this one I would just take a spare metal bracket and slowly drill 3 holes in it. 😀

Reply 308 of 313, by keropi

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haven't heard anything back from Rio444 , sent an email 4 days ago
I also read that some trouble was in that area because of the war so this is somewhat alarming - I hope it is nothing in the end

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Reply 309 of 313, by maxtherabbit

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Yoghoo wrote on 2025-07-02, 17:11:
maxtherabbit wrote on 2025-07-02, 17:03:
Yoghoo wrote on 2025-07-02, 16:18:

Made a quick stl file. Not test printed it so don't know how it will fit. If you need a step file you can convert it online if you search for stl to step.

Thanks! I'll print one off to test fitment, but ultimately I'd like to get one made of sheet metal by send cut send.

You're welcome. I love functional 3D prints especially for my retro hobby but to be honest for this one I would just take a spare metal bracket and slowly drill 3 holes in it. 😀

You're welcome to, personally I don't trust that I could achieve the level of quality or precision I'd want using hand tools.

Are you able to export a STEP directly from whatever software you used to create the STL file? The STL printed fine but I've tried two online converters and neither would produce output that send cut send's website can parse.

The original STEP file works fine with their website, so I'm pretty sure the conversion is the issue

Reply 310 of 313, by maxtherabbit

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I printed a prototype of the bracket in PLA and it seems to fit perfectly, though at the original thickness it's far too flimsy to use obviously. I share a building with a dental lab who has a resin printer so we might try making a run of them out of resin.

Reply 311 of 313, by Yoghoo

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maxtherabbit wrote on 2025-07-02, 18:18:

I printed a prototype of the bracket in PLA and it seems to fit perfectly, though at the original thickness it's far too flimsy to use obviously. I share a building with a dental lab who has a resin printer so we might try making a run of them out of resin.

Good to hear. Normally I design it from scratch and then it's easier to add some support here and there to make it more sturdier. Just making the whole bracket thicker is most of the times not a good solution as that will cause other issues (like not fitting in case or PS/2 connector not fitting well).

maxtherabbit wrote on 2025-07-02, 17:48:

Are you able to export a STEP directly from whatever software you used to create the STL file? The STL printed fine but I've tried two online converters and neither would produce output that send cut send's website can parse.

The original STEP file works fine with their website, so I'm pretty sure the conversion is the issue

I just opened the STEP file in Bambu Studio and saved it as an STL. After that edited it in Tinkercad and saved it. For a small 'project' like this that's faster for me then using Onshape or so.

Reply 312 of 313, by maxtherabbit

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Yep I also know from experience that making them thicker isn't a great option. Plastic is just a poor material for slot brackets, simple as

Reply 313 of 313, by Guld

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I was thinking of trying to get blanks that work and seeing if a machine job would be willing to do a small run. No idea what that would cost but I'll look into it when I get a chance.