Try the 8.3 driver https://www.guru3d.com/files-get/ati-ca ... it),4.html

I've used this with my HD3850 AGP. You may have to force install, hopefully not though. The 14.4 driver is not optimised for older hardware.
Use a display driver uninstaller first.

Be sure to run the installer as an administrator, and uncheck the "Protect my computer from" blah blah blah.

Imperious wrote on 2022-10-28, 00:20:

Try the 8.3 driver https://www.guru3d.com/files-get/ati-ca ... it),4.html

I've used this with my HD3850 AGP. You may have to force install, hopefully not though. The 14.4 driver is not optimised for older hardware.
Use a display driver uninstaller first.

Repo Man11 wrote on 2022-10-28, 00:40:

Be sure to run the installer as an administrator, and uncheck the "Protect my computer from" blah blah blah.

Thanks for your help guys, no luck. I used DDU version 1.6 which uninstalled everything swiftly, and restarted. Ran the 8.3 driver as an admin and unchecked the "protect" box. It extracted, allowed me to choose the type of install, and when it came to launch the ATI Display driver setup it displayed that "setup did not find a driver compatible with your hardware..."

I also followed this tutorial to a tee with its files as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJmflrDk6Ew

Which also used .inf pointing to install the drivers, but while the author's installed well, mine go all the way to the end also, but where it also turns black with the cursor on the top left for a second I get a window that instead of saying "drivers installed" says "Couldn't install... didn't find the specified file", but again, not stating at all what that file is...

I had similar issues with an HD4650 years ago - the only installer I found that worked without having to force install the driver were from the manufacturer's site.

Try this AGP hotfix driver https://drivers.softpedia.com/get/GRAPHICS-BO … 06-for-XP.shtml

Repo Man11 wrote on 2022-10-28, 01:43:

I had similar issues with an HD4650 years ago - the only installer I found that worked without having to force install the driver were from the manufacturer's site.

Imperious wrote on 2022-10-28, 01:55:

Try this AGP hotfix driver https://drivers.softpedia.com/get/GRAPHICS-BO … 06-for-XP.shtml

The drivers from AMD didn't even had the display driver option on the list of item to install, forcing installation led nowhere too...

The AGP hotfix driver was the closest one through normal installation, recognized the display driver to install but midway installing popped a window saying the .inf file wasn't found, after I tried to force install it but at the end got the same "couldn't install driver, didn't find the specified file" message

It sounds like You've got more than just display driver issues if it can't even find the files.

Solved it!

After everything I've tried, I cleaned everything up once again with DDU, uninstalled and removed the sound card also just in case, and cleaned temp files one more time, etc. Then I picked up a spare FX 5600 XT I have and installed it. It worked fine after the setup, so now I uninstalled its files with DDU again.

I put the XP CD into the drive just in case, re-installed the HD 2600 XT and ran the setup files that came in the tutorial shown in the YouTube link above, which consists of extracting one setup with signed drivers but installing them through .inf pointing, and then extracting another setup to manually install the Catalyst Control Center separately. It worked!

Just in case, I also ditched the drivers I was using with my SB Live 24Bit, and downloaded the CD image for it in Vogons' drivers archive.

What a relief, thank you for your help and pointers, much appreciated

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Solved it!

After everything I've tried, I cleaned everything up once again with DDU, uninstalled and removed the sound card also just in case, and cleaned temp files one more time, etc. Then I picked up a spare FX 5600 XT I have and installed it. It worked fine after the setup, so now I uninstalled its files with DDU again.

I put the XP CD into the drive just in case, re-installed the HD 2600 XT and ran the setup files that came in the tutorial shown in the YouTube link above, which consists of extracting one setup with signed drivers but installing them through .inf pointing, and then extracting another setup to manually install the Catalyst Control Center separately. It worked!

Just in case, I also ditched the drivers I was using with my SB Live 24Bit, and downloaded the CD image for it in Vogons' drivers archive.

What a relief, thank you for your help and pointers, much appreciated

I just ordered MSI ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO 512MB DDR2 AGP and want to check it on my Penitum 3 configuration. I hope i will not have similar problems like you, 🤣. 😀

Studiostriver wrote on 2025-07-03, 00:22:

I just ordered MSI ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO 512MB DDR2 AGP and want to check it on my Penitum 3 configuration. I hope i will not have similar problems like you, 🤣. 😀

Or problems like i had... Re: Radeon HD2600XT AGP, any driver version for XP 32 that's stable?

Ultimately from what i was able to figure out this issues probably are not drivers, but some kind of hardware incompatibility. Not sure what specifically is at fault, but i was not able to make the card work on any of my socketA systems. Different motherboards, different PSUs, whatever.

It, however, works just fine on S478 with 2Ghz northwood i got. With any drivers. Performance is poor though - more specifically minimal FPS is very low - a lot of stutters. Especially in older stuff, like even 3dmark 2001se. But benchmark results are nice...

Also compatibility with older games is... questionable.

Overall my opinion - the card is trouble and not worth getting. But may be you'll have better luck with yours...

Archer57 wrote on 2025-07-03, 01:36:

Or problems like i had... Re: Radeon HD2600XT AGP, any driver version for XP 32 that's stable? […]
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Studiostriver wrote on 2025-07-03, 00:22:

I just ordered MSI ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO 512MB DDR2 AGP and want to check it on my Penitum 3 configuration. I hope i will not have similar problems like you, 🤣. 😀

Or problems like i had... Re: Radeon HD2600XT AGP, any driver version for XP 32 that's stable?

Ultimately from what i was able to figure out this issues probably are not drivers, but some kind of hardware incompatibility. Not sure what specifically is at fault, but i was not able to make the card work on any of my socketA systems. Different motherboards, different PSUs, whatever.

It, however, works just fine on S478 with 2Ghz northwood i got. With any drivers. Performance is poor though - more specifically minimal FPS is very low - a lot of stutters. Especially in older stuff, like even 3dmark 2001se. But benchmark results are nice...

Also compatibility with older games is... questionable.

Overall my opinion - the card is trouble and not worth getting. But may be you'll have better luck with yours...

My motherboard is indeed very old, from 2000 model( Bios updated for 2001) DFI CA64-TC Socket 370 VIA 694T ATX Intel
https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/dfi-ca64-tc

Anyway i`m gonna test it and see how it will behave. If it sucks , well i bought it very cheap so i have no regrets, and i can sell it for similar price i guess in a future. 😀
Wish me luck.

Studiostriver wrote on 2025-07-03, 01:57:

My motherboard is indeed very old, from 2000 model( Bios updated for 2001) DFI CA64-TC Socket 370 VIA 694T ATX Intel https://th […]
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My motherboard is indeed very old, from 2000 model( Bios updated for 2001) DFI CA64-TC Socket 370 VIA 694T ATX Intel
https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/dfi-ca64-tc

Anyway i`m gonna test it and see how it will behave. If it sucks , well i bought it very cheap so i have no regrets, and i can sell it for similar price i guess in a future. 😀
Wish me luck.

Yeah, definitely good luck.

And yeah, i fell for lower price too. I have a feeling they are relatively inexpensive and common for a reason - people buy them, then resell them and the cycle continues. While even slower nvidia cards are relatively rare and expensive because they work...

If i was picking a card for P3 system nowadays it'd probably be something from FX series. They were... disappointing back then, but nowadays they have good compatibility with old games and mid range ones still cost reasonable amount of money.

Even simple FX5200, bad as it is (and dirt cheap) can be quite decent for older stuff.

Archer57 wrote on 2025-07-03, 02:18:

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Studiostriver wrote on 2025-07-03, 01:57:

My motherboard is indeed very old, from 2000 model( Bios updated for 2001) DFI CA64-TC Socket 370 VIA 694T ATX Intel https://th […]
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My motherboard is indeed very old, from 2000 model( Bios updated for 2001) DFI CA64-TC Socket 370 VIA 694T ATX Intel
https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/dfi-ca64-tc

Anyway i`m gonna test it and see how it will behave. If it sucks , well i bought it very cheap so i have no regrets, and i can sell it for similar price i guess in a future. 😀
Wish me luck.

Yeah, definitely good luck.

And yeah, i fell for lower price too. I have a feeling they are relatively inexpensive and common for a reason - people buy them, then resell them and the cycle continues. While even slower nvidia cards are relatively rare and expensive because they work...

If i was picking a card for P3 system nowadays it'd probably be something from FX series. They were... disappointing back then, but nowadays they have good compatibility with old games and mid range ones still cost reasonable amount of money.

Even simple FX5200, bad as it is (and dirt cheap) can be quite decent for older stuff.

I want to put FX5200 PCI model in the same computer, and for AGP i have know 6600 GT which actually runs amazing for XP, have no complains , other then one crash on 2003 benchmark, but on 2004 it runs fine. With games i tested i had no crashes and i played so far about 10+ titles.

Studiostriver wrote on 2025-07-03, 02:22:

I want to put FX5200 PCI model in the same computer, and for AGP i have know 6600 GT which actually runs amazing for XP, have no complains , other then one crash on 2003 benchmark, but on 2004 it runs fine. With games i tested i had no crashes and i played so far about 10+ titles.

6600GT is a great card, IMO one of the best for AGP. Also a significant overkill for such system. Do experiment with drivers a bit too, i've had interesting issues with 6600 (non-GT, much slower) i have. Some crashes in older games on latest driver, which did not happen on the same driver with newer cards (7300GT). Ultimately ended up using 175.19, which is the last driver for FX cards (and can be downloaded as such from nvidia site). Slightly better performance on both 6x and 7x cards and no crashes on 6600.

Not sure how useful PCI FX5200 (FX5500? Do be careful getting this as there are a bunch of newly manufactured ones using GPUs from AGP FX5200 with rather low quality), I'd only bother with that if there are actual issues with something you want to run on 6600GT.

Archer57 wrote on 2025-07-03, 03:17:

Studiostriver wrote on 2025-07-03, 02:22:

I want to put FX5200 PCI model in the same computer, and for AGP i have know 6600 GT which actually runs amazing for XP, have no complains , other then one crash on 2003 benchmark, but on 2004 it runs fine. With games i tested i had no crashes and i played so far about 10+ titles.

6600GT is a great card, IMO one of the best for AGP. Also a significant overkill for such system. Do experiment with drivers a bit too, i've had interesting issues with 6600 (non-GT, much slower) is have. Some crashes in older games on latest driver, which did not happen on the same driver with newer cards (7300GT). Ultimately ended up using 175.19, which is the last driver for FX cards (and can be downloaded as such from nvidia site). Slightly better performance on both 6x and 7x cards and no crashes on 6600.

Not sure how useful PCI FX5200 (FX5500? Do be careful getting this as there are a bunch of newly manufactured ones using GPUs from AGP FX5200 with rather low quality), I'd only bother with that if there are actual issues with something you want to run on 6600GT.

Oh yeah, there are new manufactured 5200 PCI models recently and could get cheap. Who knows how it will work , but i`m willing to try it. Worst could happen is that it would not work well and thats it. 😀
I tried so much different drivers and with some i had terrible results, with some pretty good on XP with 6600 GT. Nedless to say the only agp card on which i could run Wizardry 9 without freezing due to bad graphic card performance. This game is just directx 7, but so demanding for there old systems, and needless to say it looks beyond amazing compare to HIS 9600 256 XT model i used before.

I`m just sad it wont display 640x480 resolution at all on 98SE (i use dual boot machine), all other resolutions runs amazing! Why, i have no clue really, but i could not try too much drivers for 98x, if memory serves me well only 4 or 5. On most it runs terribly even desktop display, but on one i use know it works pretty good, except above mention problem.

Anyway i am willing to try this MSI ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO 512MB DDR2 AGP. I know it has no support for 98x, that is why i wanted to order fx 5200 PCI to see if i can have good compabillity with both os on different cards.
Thanks for response, i really enjoy listened other peoples experiences as i`m alone in my town who is into retro computers and consoles.

Studiostriver wrote on 2025-07-03, 12:29:

Oh yeah, there are new manufactured 5200 PCI models recently and could get cheap. Who knows how it will work , but i`m willing […]
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Archer57 wrote on 2025-07-03, 03:17:

Studiostriver wrote on 2025-07-03, 02:22:

I want to put FX5200 PCI model in the same computer, and for AGP i have know 6600 GT which actually runs amazing for XP, have no complains , other then one crash on 2003 benchmark, but on 2004 it runs fine. With games i tested i had no crashes and i played so far about 10+ titles.

6600GT is a great card, IMO one of the best for AGP. Also a significant overkill for such system. Do experiment with drivers a bit too, i've had interesting issues with 6600 (non-GT, much slower) is have. Some crashes in older games on latest driver, which did not happen on the same driver with newer cards (7300GT). Ultimately ended up using 175.19, which is the last driver for FX cards (and can be downloaded as such from nvidia site). Slightly better performance on both 6x and 7x cards and no crashes on 6600.

Not sure how useful PCI FX5200 (FX5500? Do be careful getting this as there are a bunch of newly manufactured ones using GPUs from AGP FX5200 with rather low quality), I'd only bother with that if there are actual issues with something you want to run on 6600GT.

Oh yeah, there are new manufactured 5200 PCI models recently and could get cheap. Who knows how it will work , but i`m willing to try it. Worst could happen is that it would not work well and thats it. 😀
I tried so much different drivers and with some i had terrible results, with some pretty good on XP with 6600 GT. Nedless to say the only agp card on which i could run Wizardry 9 without freezing due to bad graphic card performance. This game is just directx 7, but so demanding for there old systems, and needless to say it looks beyond amazing compare to HIS 9600 256 XT model i used before.

I`m just sad it wont display 640x480 resolution at all on 98SE (i use dual boot machine), all other resolutions runs amazing! Why, i have no clue really, but i could not try too much drivers for 98x, if memory serves me well only 4 or 5. On most it runs terribly even desktop display, but on one i use know it works pretty good, except above mention problem.

Anyway i am willing to try this MSI ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO 512MB DDR2 AGP. I know it has no support for 98x, that is why i wanted to order fx 5200 PCI to see if i can have good compabillity with both os on different cards.
Thanks for response, i really enjoy listened other peoples experiences as i`m alone in my town who is into retro computers and consoles.

Hey, if you follow the YouTube tutorial that I pointed out earlier right from scratch to a tee I'm quite sure you won't run into any issues. Just do the drivers and Catalyst installs separately according to the tutorial's methods. There's definitely some kind of temperamental incompatibility that remains unknown, at least to me. I've since switched the sound card from the SB Live! 24-bit to an Auzentech Meridian, and everything kept going and has been running fine for years without incompatibilities. I've reassigned the SB Live! 24-bit to my Win2000 build, I find it to be a very underrated card for mid-late Win9x games up to early-mid XP era of games.

I've also resoldered the 2600XT's fan cable and relubed it, thermal paste, etc. Has been running quietly and steadily ever since. I don't know how it goes these days, but it used to be a very good and affordable card for games from the XP era only a few years back. Feels solid and very compact compared to the Nvidias. I wanted something slightly more period correct as opposed to more powerful later Win7 era hardware, as my XP build is the only original computer that I had from the era that's still in my hands. So I wanted to complement it without changing it around too much, but still give it some oomph within XP era games' demands compared to the 9600 Pro I had in this build. Pairs very well with the Athlon 64 3200+ 2.2Ghz that I've upgraded to from my original Sempron 2800+ 1.6Ghz.

Got that balance right between oomph and period correctness for XP. Definitely give it a try, I like it.

andre_6 wrote on 2025-07-05, 18:15:

Hey, if you follow the YouTube tutorial that I pointed out earlier right from scratch to a tee I'm quite sure you won't run into […]
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Studiostriver wrote on 2025-07-03, 12:29:

Oh yeah, there are new manufactured 5200 PCI models recently and could get cheap. Who knows how it will work , but i`m willing […]
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Archer57 wrote on 2025-07-03, 03:17:

6600GT is a great card, IMO one of the best for AGP. Also a significant overkill for such system. Do experiment with drivers a bit too, i've had interesting issues with 6600 (non-GT, much slower) is have. Some crashes in older games on latest driver, which did not happen on the same driver with newer cards (7300GT). Ultimately ended up using 175.19, which is the last driver for FX cards (and can be downloaded as such from nvidia site). Slightly better performance on both 6x and 7x cards and no crashes on 6600.

Not sure how useful PCI FX5200 (FX5500? Do be careful getting this as there are a bunch of newly manufactured ones using GPUs from AGP FX5200 with rather low quality), I'd only bother with that if there are actual issues with something you want to run on 6600GT.

Oh yeah, there are new manufactured 5200 PCI models recently and could get cheap. Who knows how it will work , but i`m willing to try it. Worst could happen is that it would not work well and thats it. 😀
I tried so much different drivers and with some i had terrible results, with some pretty good on XP with 6600 GT. Nedless to say the only agp card on which i could run Wizardry 9 without freezing due to bad graphic card performance. This game is just directx 7, but so demanding for there old systems, and needless to say it looks beyond amazing compare to HIS 9600 256 XT model i used before.

I`m just sad it wont display 640x480 resolution at all on 98SE (i use dual boot machine), all other resolutions runs amazing! Why, i have no clue really, but i could not try too much drivers for 98x, if memory serves me well only 4 or 5. On most it runs terribly even desktop display, but on one i use know it works pretty good, except above mention problem.

Anyway i am willing to try this MSI ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO 512MB DDR2 AGP. I know it has no support for 98x, that is why i wanted to order fx 5200 PCI to see if i can have good compabillity with both os on different cards.
Thanks for response, i really enjoy listened other peoples experiences as i`m alone in my town who is into retro computers and consoles.

Hey, if you follow the YouTube tutorial that I pointed out earlier right from scratch to a tee I'm quite sure you won't run into any issues. Just do the drivers and Catalyst installs separately according to the tutorial's methods. There's definitely some kind of temperamental incompatibility that remains unknown, at least to me. I've since switched the sound card from the SB Live! 24-bit to an Auzentech Meridian, and everything kept going and has been running fine for years without incompatibilities. I've reassigned the SB Live! 24-bit to my Win2000 build, I find it to be a very underrated card for mid-late Win9x games up to early-mid XP era of games.

I've also resoldered the 2600XT's fan cable and relubed it, thermal paste, etc. Has been running quietly and steadily ever since. I don't know how it goes these days, but it used to be a very good and affordable card for games from the XP era only a few years back. Feels solid and very compact compared to the Nvidias. I wanted something slightly more period correct as opposed to more powerful later Win7 era hardware, as my XP build is the only original computer that I had from the era that's still in my hands. So I wanted to complement it without changing it around too much, but still give it some oomph within XP era games' demands compared to the 9600 Pro I had in this build. Pairs very well with the Athlon 64 3200+ 2.2Ghz that I've upgraded to from my original Sempron 2800+ 1.6Ghz.

Got that balance right between oomph and period correctness for XP. Definitely give it a try, I like it.

Thanks. I`ll definitely try it. Cleaning the card right know, my model is passive, but its obviously havent been used for a long time. Time for alcohol 75% and new thermal paste. 😀 I will let you know if i manage to make it work, and i`ll look closely the tutorial you pointed out, thanks a lot for that.

Aaaaaaand it works! Pentium 3 is blazing fast with this card! Its even faster then Nvidia 6600 GT and picture is so precise and bright, love it. So far i keeping it in this computer, and its even 10 C less hot. I cleaned it, and put new thermal paste.