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Reply 20 of 39, by rotzgurke

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Dothan Burger wrote on 2025-09-06, 03:02:
rotzgurke wrote on 2025-09-05, 13:47:
dominusprog wrote on 2025-09-05, 13:38:

Your graphics card doesn't support the Win9X. You have to install either Windows 2000 or XP.

I guess your re wrong. It is supported. See my posted links e.g.

Radeons usually have two instances in device manager. Is there another GPU in the dropdown menu of HWInfo?

Nope, only one (GPU 0)

Reply 21 of 39, by Duffman

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do you see any 'unknown devices' in device manager?

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Reply 22 of 39, by rotzgurke

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Duffman wrote on 2025-09-07, 20:44:

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do you see any 'unknown devices' in device manager?

Sure. 1 unknown device for the motherboard. There are No drivers at all. But should that complain with the GPU?

I only Run quake 2 today. Seems right.

Anything i can Test to get Sure the GPU is running correct? I installed 6.2 again. The only Driver thats fully working.

Reply 23 of 39, by Duffman

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ATI cards from this era normally have a 2nd 'Secondary' device under display adapters, it should be there so that might be part of the problem.

Try installing the ATI Catalyst 6.2 driver onto the unknown device and see if it lets you do it.

Also try recapping your card if you've got the skills for it.

MB: ASRock B550 Steel Legend
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RAM: Corsair 64GB Kit (4x16GB) DDR4 Veng LPX C18 4000MHz
SSDs: 2x Crucial MX500 1TB SATA + 1x Samsung 980 (non-pro) 1TB NVMe SSD
OSs: Win 11 Pro (NVMe) + WinXP Pro SP3 (SATA)
GPU: RTX2070 (11) GT730 (XP)

Reply 24 of 39, by rotzgurke

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Duffman wrote on 2025-09-07, 21:28:

ATI cards from this era normally have a 2nd 'Secondary' device under display adapters, it should be there so that might be part of the problem.

Try installing the ATI Catalyst 6.2 driver onto the unknown device and see if it lets you do it.

Also try recapping your card if you've got the skills for it.

Ah that you mean. There are two Display Adapters.

1. Primary Radeon 850 xt
2. Secondary Radeon 850 xt

Reply 25 of 39, by Duffman

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ah OK. so that's good.

Can you try and put the card in a modern system and run MemtestCL on it to check if all the VRAM is working?

MB: ASRock B550 Steel Legend
CPU: Ryzen 9 5950X
RAM: Corsair 64GB Kit (4x16GB) DDR4 Veng LPX C18 4000MHz
SSDs: 2x Crucial MX500 1TB SATA + 1x Samsung 980 (non-pro) 1TB NVMe SSD
OSs: Win 11 Pro (NVMe) + WinXP Pro SP3 (SATA)
GPU: RTX2070 (11) GT730 (XP)

Reply 26 of 39, by Dothan Burger

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rotzgurke wrote on 2025-09-07, 21:02:
Sure. 1 unknown device for the motherboard. There are No drivers at all. But should that complain with the GPU? […]
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Duffman wrote on 2025-09-07, 20:44:

@rotzgurke

do you see any 'unknown devices' in device manager?

Sure. 1 unknown device for the motherboard. There are No drivers at all. But should that complain with the GPU?

I only Run quake 2 today. Seems right.

Anything i can Test to get Sure the GPU is running correct? I installed 6.2 again. The only Driver thats fully working.

How about quake3 time demo or 3dmark2001

Quake 3:
Hit the ~ key
Type: timedemo 1, Hit Enter: Hit ~ again and go to demos and select one.

3dmark2001 is free. run it and see what you score or if it fails.

You could also try pressing the windows key +R and type dxdiag navigate to the display tap and see what it says.

Reply 27 of 39, by rotzgurke

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Thanks for your replies. I will Check this end of the week.

Reply 29 of 39, by OMORES

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I recently tested an ATI X700LE with Windows 98 or very modern hardware, and it works just fine, except that the X700 is quite bad compared to an X850.

Check if the video memory shows up in DXDIAG. Utilities like HWiNFO are not optimized for Windows 9x and you can't expect everything to work... it's a miracle they even start.

My latest video: NT 4.0 running from M.2 PCI-E AHCI SSD.

Reply 30 of 39, by rotzgurke

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OMORES wrote on 2025-09-08, 18:16:

I recently tested an ATI X700LE with Windows 98 or very modern hardware, and it works just fine, except that the X700 is quite bad compared to an X850.

Check if the video memory shows up in DXDIAG. Utilities like HWiNFO are not optimized for Windows 9x and you can't expect everything to work... it's a miracle they even start.

What is the dvi2usb Display Adapter?

Reply 31 of 39, by Dothan Burger

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rotzgurke wrote on 2025-09-10, 10:16:
OMORES wrote on 2025-09-08, 18:16:

I recently tested an ATI X700LE with Windows 98 or very modern hardware, and it works just fine, except that the X700 is quite bad compared to an X850.

Check if the video memory shows up in DXDIAG. Utilities like HWiNFO are not optimized for Windows 9x and you can't expect everything to work... it's a miracle they even start.

What is the dvi2usb Display Adapter?

That and I would like to know how a PCI-E graphics card has AGP texture acceleration enabled?

Reply 32 of 39, by OMORES

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DVI2USB is a capture card (from Epiphan) that will present itself as a Plug & play monitor in Windows.

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As for AGP texturing, I'm using a PCI-E x700 card, so this option isn't on the table.

My latest video: NT 4.0 running from M.2 PCI-E AHCI SSD.

Reply 33 of 39, by rotzgurke

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I guess it is okay then?

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Reply 34 of 39, by rotzgurke

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Now i tested Mafia 1 and it ran smooth. So i guess everything works. Now next how to Higher reolition without blackscreens more than now as shown in the picture above.

Reply 35 of 39, by rotzgurke

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Info: it is connected via DVI to HDMI cable

Reply 36 of 39, by Gelip

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You are lucky.
My PCIe ATI X300 does not want to work in Win98 or Win95 on any computer on which I tested: Haswell, SandyBridge, BayTrail, CoffeeLake 🙁
Graphics card PCIe working on Win95

Reply 37 of 39, by schmatzler

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Some X850 cards are missing the subvendor and subsystem IDs in their ROM and they won't work on Win9x:

Re: Radeon X850XT and Windows 98SE problems

I ran into that problem with my X850XT. Worked totally fine on XP, but the PC made a hard shutdown when trying to boot Windows 98. Now it runs flawlessly after modding and reflashing the ROM.

"Windows 98's natural state is locked up"

Reply 38 of 39, by rotzgurke

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schmatzler wrote on Today, 03:04:

Some X850 cards are missing the subvendor and subsystem IDs in their ROM and they won't work on Win9x:

Re: Radeon X850XT and Windows 98SE problems

I ran into that problem with my X850XT. Worked totally fine on XP, but the PC made a hard shutdown when trying to boot Windows 98. Now it runs flawlessly after modding and reflashing the ROM.

Thanks for your link

Any ideas why i am Not able to Change Resolution to full hd? When i do that this time No blackscreen but a Strange flickering Screen/picture. It is bouncing left and right.

Now my Resolution is 1600x1200 32 bit

Reply 39 of 39, by Gelip

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schmatzler wrote on Today, 03:04:

Some X850 cards are missing the subvendor and subsystem IDs in their ROM and they won't work on Win9x:
I ran into that problem with my X850XT. Worked totally fine on XP, but the PC made a hard shutdown when trying to boot Windows 98. Now it runs flawlessly after modding and reflashing the ROM.

As for the PCIe ATI X300 card, it has the correct subsystem and subvendor but still does not want to work in Win9x:

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