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Reply 20 of 24, by Big Pink

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vvbee wrote on 2025-09-15, 01:32:

what you're working toward is a more useful version of the internet.

Where do you think that ranks in the list of priorities for these purveyors of slop?

This is one of the few websites I can look at these days without having to enable JavaScript and jump through one or more Cloudflare prompts because they just pillage every site. Between "AI", the Web 2.0 normiefication that preceded it, and the general dystopian path the web is going down (in as much as there is a distinction between it and IRL anymore); I really am considering whether I should just quit paying a fortune to my ISP. I say this as someone who has grown up since the late 90s being online.

Who will die first: Tim Berners Lee or his crowning achievement? Unlife to AI. Unfurl the banner of the Butlerian Jihad.

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Reply 21 of 24, by vvbee

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maxtherabbit wrote on 2025-09-20, 13:07:
vvbee wrote on 2025-09-20, 06:43:

Yes, it's not an ironic joke, it's a hopeless position. AI will keep going. If companies going under gives you satisfaction then you'll see various attempts fail as you do in any space that people apply their vision in.

Yes seeing people fail who apply their "vision" does indeed give me satisfaction. Fuck em

Maybe you'll like the video of Franz Reichelt then, if not then the delta of satisfaction may not be good. The reach of AI can be reduced as they figure out where it works best, but that's offset by the fact that it's becoming more useful in more domains. Maybe your hope is that they'll start offering less for free.

Big Pink wrote on 2025-09-20, 15:58:
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vvbee wrote on 2025-09-15, 01:32:

what you're working toward is a more useful version of the internet.

Where do you think that ranks in the list of priorities for these purveyors of slop?

This is one of the few websites I can look at these days without having to enable JavaScript and jump through one or more Cloudflare prompts because they just pillage every site. Between "AI", the Web 2.0 normiefication that preceded it, and the general dystopian path the web is going down (in as much as there is a distinction between it and IRL anymore); I really am considering whether I should just quit paying a fortune to my ISP. I say this as someone who has grown up since the late 90s being online.

Who will die first: Tim Berners Lee or his crowning achievement? Unlife to AI. Unfurl the banner of the Butlerian Jihad.

Ask around and people will decry anything. EEVblog recently complained about the YouTube AI video thing leading to people pushing out slop while sitting on the toilet, forgetting that founding content on YouTube was people filming themselves sitting on the toilet.

Reply 22 of 24, by StriderTR

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It's pretty obvious most of the websites (and a lot of other content) today are either AI generated, or AI assisted. I believe full user created sites are in the minority and going the way of the Dodo. I'm OK with AI assistance, but everything is so ... plain. So many sites look basically the same. Sanitized, minimal, uninspired and totally generic. Even site templates, and they've been around a very long time, seem to have less variety. Call me old, nostalgic, whatever you like, but I think the web lost its uniqueness, its human feel, all in the name of progress and conformity. I do miss it. 😀

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Reply 23 of 24, by vvbee

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Are you sure the internet was ever going to support the human feel and that what you saw wasn't the human feel trying to outlast it.

Reply 24 of 24, by ajacocks

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