Geforce FX 5200 (128bit) would be next good step that you have not mentioned.

marxveix wrote on Yesterday, 07:35:

Geforce FX 5200 (128bit) would be next good step that you have not mentioned.

Thanks for the information. Yes I have not considered the fx series yet. i am open to ther sugggestons though so I will geforce fx 5200 out.

I'm doing something similar with a Dell Dimension 4100, though it's a little too old to get in on Tualtin. I went with a Radeon 9600XT 128MB card, once I dealt with a dying GPU fan it seems to be working well so far. I haven't exactly put it through its paces yet though.

512 MB is the maximum for RAM in Windows 98SE without modification/patch, the general recommendation is to stick to 512 MB or less. 384-512 MB will be good.

On my Tualatin I have Geforce 4 MX 460. Basically an ultimate DirectX 7 build. Though that's only good for games up to about 2000. If you want 2001 games, then that means directX 8.x support is required. Which means at least a Geforce 4200 or Radeon 8500.

Edit, sorry, geforce 3 is also directx 8.x

smax wrote on Yesterday, 20:40:

I'm doing something similar with a Dell Dimension 4100, though it's a little too old to get in on Tualtin. I went with a Radeon 9600XT 128MB card, once I dealt with a dying GPU fan it seems to be working well so far. I haven't exactly put it through its paces yet though.

512 MB is the maximum for RAM in Windows 98SE without modification/patch, the general recommendation is to stick to 512 MB or less. 384-512 MB will be good.

Thanks a lot for the information about the ram. The radeon card is on my short list among the top pics aus well. It should serve my plans well.

RetroPCCupboard wrote on Yesterday, 21:32:

On my Tualatin I have Geforce 4 MX 460. Basically an ultimate DirectX 7 build. Though that's only good for games up to about 2000. If you want 2001 games, then that means directX 8.x support is required. Which means at least a Geforce 4200 or Radeon 8500.

Edit, sorry, geforce 3 is also directx 8.x

thx for your reply as well. And as far as i know the gf3 already supports directx. but you have a point for sure that for the ultimate directx experience I should look towards the geforce 4 or radeon 8 or 9 series.

I need to dig deeper first befor making my final call of there are any knowm compability issues with that series of cards for win98se.

smax wrote on Yesterday, 20:40:

512 MB is the maximum for RAM in Windows 98SE without modification/patch, the general recommendation is to stick to 512 MB or less. 384-512 MB will be good.

TUSL is a motherboard with SPD support.
Therefore, if you insert memory stick into all 3 slots, it will honestly show 768MB (or 1.5GB).
And that's it.
The motherboard will freeze
No motherboard in the world based on the Intel 815 chipset will work with more than 512 MB of RAM.
This is a fundamental limitation of the this chipset.

shevalier wrote on Today, 11:36:

TUSL is a motherboard with SPD support. Therefore, if you insert memory stick into all 3 slots, it will honestly show 768MB (or […]
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smax wrote on Yesterday, 20:40:

512 MB is the maximum for RAM in Windows 98SE without modification/patch, the general recommendation is to stick to 512 MB or less. 384-512 MB will be good.

TUSL is a motherboard with SPD support.
Therefore, if you insert memory stick into all 3 slots, it will honestly show 768MB (or 1.5GB).
And that's it.
The motherboard will freeze
No motherboard in the world based on the Intel 815 chipset will work with more than 512 MB of RAM.
This is a fundamental limitation of the this chipset.

Thanks for the info this is good to know. But can it be really called a limitation? As far as I know there are no games or at least not much would bennfit from more than 512 mb ram in a windows 98se gaming scenario?

predator_085 wrote on Today, 11:51:

shevalier wrote on Today, 11:36:

TUSL is a motherboard with SPD support. Therefore, if you insert memory stick into all 3 slots, it will honestly show 768MB (or […]
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smax wrote on Yesterday, 20:40:

512 MB is the maximum for RAM in Windows 98SE without modification/patch, the general recommendation is to stick to 512 MB or less. 384-512 MB will be good.

TUSL is a motherboard with SPD support.
Therefore, if you insert memory stick into all 3 slots, it will honestly show 768MB (or 1.5GB).
And that's it.
The motherboard will freeze
No motherboard in the world based on the Intel 815 chipset will work with more than 512 MB of RAM.
This is a fundamental limitation of the this chipset.

Thanks for the info this is good to know. But can it be really called a limitation? As far as I know there are no games or at least not much would bennfit from more than 512 mb ram in a windows 98se gaming scenario?

That's not the point.
And most often, people try to increase the amount of RAM to more than 512MB under Windows 98 - because they want to, not because there is a need.

The three RAM slots on I815 motherboards were designed so that 128MB sticks would not have to be discarded when upgrading.
As a result, users often think that they can insert anything into them.
Unlike VIA 694 (which can work with 3-4 RAM sticks of 512 MB each), this is completely pointless on Intel 815.
Apparently, there are some 512 MB sticks that work on them, but this will not help.
The fundamental limitation is 512 MB in total, in any combination.
Therefore, there is no need to limit or patch anything in Windows 98.

PS. A pair of single-sided Samsung 256MB CL2 modules is an excellent choice for the I815.
You can try 150MHZ FSB with 2-2-2-5 timings

shevalier wrote on Today, 12:28:

That's not the point. And most often, people try to increase the amount of RAM to more than 512MB under Windows 98 - because the […]
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predator_085 wrote on Today, 11:51:

shevalier wrote on Today, 11:36:

TUSL is a motherboard with SPD support. Therefore, if you insert memory stick into all 3 slots, it will honestly show 768MB (or […]
Show full quote

TUSL is a motherboard with SPD support.
Therefore, if you insert memory stick into all 3 slots, it will honestly show 768MB (or 1.5GB).
And that's it.
The motherboard will freeze
No motherboard in the world based on the Intel 815 chipset will work with more than 512 MB of RAM.
This is a fundamental limitation of the this chipset.

Thanks for the info this is good to know. But can it be really called a limitation? As far as I know there are no games or at least not much would bennfit from more than 512 mb ram in a windows 98se gaming scenario?

That's not the point.
And most often, people try to increase the amount of RAM to more than 512MB under Windows 98 - because they want to, not because there is a need.

The three RAM slots on I815 motherboards were designed so that 128MB sticks would not have to be discarded when upgrading.
As a result, users often think that they can insert anything into them.
Unlike VIA 694 (which can work with 3-4 RAM sticks of 512 MB each), this is completely pointless on Intel 815.
Apparently, there are some 512 MB sticks that work on them, but this will not help.
The fundamental limitation is 512 MB in total, in any combination.
Therefore, there is no need to limit or patch anything in Windows 98.

PS. A pair of single-sided Samsung 256MB CL2 modules is an excellent choice for the I815.
You can try 150MHZ FSB with 2-2-2-5 timings

I understand. Thanks for making things clear and thx for the ram recommendation.

@all I am shopping around now for gpu and came across a nice offer the the GeCube ATi Radeon 9550 ? Is this good alternative to the quite often recommendend ati radeon 9600pro?

predator_085 wrote on Today, 18:03:

GeCube ATi Radeon 9550 ?

If it's the GeCube R9550GU-C3P model, I would definitely buy it, considering its impressive appearance.