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Reply 30600 of 30602, by douglar

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There was more battery corrosion on that motherboard than I thought! My desoldering tip! What have I done to you?

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Reply 30601 of 30602, by Ozzuneoj

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Just when I think I'm starting to understand memory configurations on old video cards, I get something like this...

I have an ASUS TNT2 Vanta, just like the one in this listing.

It is a 16MB card, and like any other TNT2 M64 or Vanta, it has a 64bit memory bus.

So, how does that work with eight of these memory chips?
https://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/vi … 48LC1M16A1.html

Is there a way to tell based on this datasheet that eight of these 16bit chips would only provide a 64bit total bus width, or is this just due to the way to card is wired (since the Vanta chip itself only has connections for a 64bit bus)? Does the "2 banks" part of the chip's configuration have anything to do with it? It says it is either a 512K x 16bit x 2 banks or a 1M x 16bit part.

Looking at the VGA Museum, I see lots of this 8-chip TNT2 Vanta and M64 cards.
https://www.vgamuseum.info/index.php/cpu/item … 34-nvidia-vanta
https://www.vgamuseum.info/index.php/cpu/item … a-riva-tnt2-m64

... so the configuration isn't that rare. I think the rest of the 64bit TNT2 cards I own all have 4 memory chips though, so it struck me as odd.

Is there any benefit to using a PCB design with eight chips for a low cost card like this? Is it just that they could choose to use 8 of these or 4 higher density chips on the same PCB depending on what was available?

The performance is as dismal as one would expect, of course.

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 30602 of 30602, by pentiumspeed

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Some of these have 4 chips using 32 bits chips (two chips each), with 8 chips solder pads. No mystery about this for grouping for 16 bits ICs forming two groups of 4 chips each. Either way.

Cheers,

Great Northern aka Canada.