BitWrangler wrote on 2025-12-29, 05:17:Just before the hols, I popped into a thrift and found a Latitude E6420 just sitting on the shelf, was cheap so I had no expecta […]
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Just before the hols, I popped into a thrift and found a Latitude E6420 just sitting on the shelf, was cheap so I had no expectation of it working... but it booted right up on an HP psu, having not come with one. However that was a volt short 18.5 instead of 19.5 so it was refusing to charge the battery, which is discharged but claiming to be okay. It's a little on the worn side, missing it's clitmouse cap, few dings but stoutly together. So I brung that up into "see what it's like" state, rather than full prep and it's alright for a sandycrotch. i5-2520M/8GB and 300ish of spinning rust
So yesterday I hit up the same thift to see if the dell psu or another was lurking unfound, and a good search didn't find it, but it found it's next year sibling, an E6430, same cheap price, same kind of condition. Weird. Well it's got a bigass 9 cell batt, maybe this one is dead and I can steal parts... Heh, boots, well after I set it to UEFI so it could find the boot file it boots. This one got the i5-3440M... and it was same again, run but no charge off HP PSU.
Third time lucky methinks, today hit different thrifts in search for a Dell PSU... found a universal one for cheap, only 65W though, but yes, got both of them charging up now.
Anyways... remember the Elitebook 8640P I got a while back? Yeah I bought an i7-2760QM cpu to go in that, then a bunch of nonsense happened and computer playtime curtailed and it didn't happen yet. Also got 16GB in DDR3 SODIMMs. Bringing that to mind because...
I have had a period of attrition in 2nd tier machines and the workshop beaters, they have been breaking down and win7 installs are no longer supporting browsers capable of doing much online now. The workshop beaters were in horrible states to begin with, taped with makeshift fixes, complete wrecks got running with luck and poor judgement, stuff that came free or for pennies. Turion and Core2. The second tier machines were nicer, but have just aged out for "being on the internet" in other than retro ways now.
So it is quite fortunate to have a sudden cheap bonanza in sandybridge and better, able to run win10, units that will take some upgrades, RAM/SSD and do some donkey work. By amazing coincidence, I picked up a Dell dock that fits them some time ago.
Now then I guess what I am getting around to is the question, which i5-2520 deserves the i7 most? Latitude E6420 or Elitebook 8640P? They both have models in the range that take the quad, so it should work.... and I don't need the lecture about cooling again thanks, not first rodeo, unless one is known worse than the other.
They are both partially rugged, the Elitebook is slightly better cosmetically, but slightly larger. The Dell will dock. I guess really, I am coming down on the side of the Dell unless there is a super good reason why not.
By the way are we allowed to mention the H-word boot CD yet? Latest versions claim to be fully freely distributable software. It was real useful to insert new passwords and take a look at machines before potentially letting virussy trojans into the network or something, and also figure out some hardware details and otherwise recover their installs.
So yeah, trailing edge modern stuff going on here really, windows10 wrangling, gonna be fitting SSDs and all the RAM I can scrape up.
Those are solid machines. I've set up a few from the Sandy Bridge to Haswell generations. The screens on the ones I used were pretty horrid and low-res, but that was really the only downside to them.
I would put the QM in whichever one has the best screen or has any other distinguishing features above the others.
It's funny, reading your post made me realize that my personal laptop (which very very rarely gets used these days) is so old that it's actually a really stout Windows XP system if I wanted to dual-boot it.
That machine is a good story, so I'll take a little stroll down memory lane for a sec...
Being a desktop guy, the first actually usable laptop I ever owned was one that was given to me by a relative in ~2012 because they didn't want it anymore. It was an Acer Aspire (model number seems lost to time) with a 14" screen, a Celeron 420 (single core 1.6Ghz Conroe-L), Intel GMA 4500MHD graphics, GL40 chipset, 2GB of DDR2 and a barely adequate spinning drive running Windows Vista Basic. It was so cheap to upgrade a machine like that (since it was basically the worst of everything) that I had some fun upgrading it to... I think... a Core 2 Duo T8100, 4GB of DDR2, bigger\faster hard drive and even an extended battery. It was a surprisingly useful little machine. If it had a higher res screen and an SSD it would have been totally usable for many many years. It was also hilariously thick and "round"... I really wish I could find a picture of it or figure out what model it was, but I can't find anything like it right now.
At this point I was finally finding uses for a "mobile computer" and decided to look into getting something newer in late 2013. I was waaaay too poor at the time (new family) to afford anything new or high end. But... my wife had an HP HDX18 with a backlit keyboard and a 1080P screen and I knew I wanted both of those features (though it was unlikely to be 18 inches...).
After much searching and deliberating, I decided that the Asus Q500A line of laptops was basically what I wanted. They were only about a year old in December of 2013, but I managed to find one on ebay with a broken screen for right around $200, which was a steal! It had Windows 8, an i5 3210M (35W Ivy Bridge dual core + HT, HD4000), 6GB DDR3-1600 (2+4), a 750GB 5400RPM hard drive, 3-level backlit keyboard (still looks and feels awesome 12 years later), 15.6" 1366x768 screen (broken), lots of black brushed aluminum and very solid construction... definitely a step above what you'd find at wal-mart. That config was $600 retail normally. My main reason for going with this machine was that I absolutely wanted a 1080P screen and the Q500A line also had a higher end config with an i7 and a 1080P screen.
This was a pretty big gamble for me since I had basically no experience tearing deep into modern laptops to do upgrades, but I did some digging and saw that some higher end Thinkpad laptops seemed to use the same connector placement as this Asus, and they used some very very nice AUO panels, so I decided to track one of those down. I found a used AUO B156HW01 V4 1080P panel from a Thinkpad on ebay for $50. I did what seemed like brain surgery and the screen upgrade actually worked! The specs don't look like much now, but this TN panel looks more like a VA or IPS without the downsides of either of those, and the 95% NTSC color is a huge improvement over others I'd seen in 2013. After all these years it is still so vibrant and easy on the eyes and gets sufficiently bright as well.
I now had a fantastic laptop with a better screen than it was ever supposed to have for only $250. I used it that way for a couple years but eventually upgraded it to Windows 10, 8GB DDR3 (4+4) and swapped out the hard drive for a Samsung 840EVO 250GB... then after seeing the news about those being flaky I switched it to a 512GB ADATA SU800 SSD in ~2018. I almost sold it when I found a cheap HP gaming laptop on clearance at Wal-Mart, but I actually ended up selling that instead because it wasn't as nice, even if it was faster.
A year or two ago I was thinking about getting a newer laptop again, but when I realized I could grab a quad core i7 and 16GB of RAM for this one for like $40 total (they were smoking deals...) I decided to go for it.
So, at the end of 2025 it now has an i7 3632QM (35W Quad core with HT), Adata SU800 512GB and 16GB DDR3-1600. It still works as well as it did when I got it, which was 12 years ago this month. It's on only it's second battery, and that is also getting a bit weak, and there is a small flake of something loose inside the LCD panel but it isn't much of a bother and it's been there for probably 7-8 years now. I think the fan runs a bit more now with the quad core despite them both being 35W TDP, but it's a bit hard to tell because I just don't use it that much and it has to install Windows updates almost every time I do something on it. If it seems too noisy I might try one of the new fangled phase change TIM sheets I picked up recently to see if that helps.
Anyway, maybe I'll try dual booting XP with it some time. It could be pretty interesting, and I think the HD4000 graphics running along side this CPU would probably manage 15,000-20,000 in 3Dmark 2001SE, which is plenty for some decent XP gaming on a 60Hz display.
EDIT: After arguing with Google's stupid AI chat bot for 10 minutes I finally was able to get it to stop gaslighting me on whether my orignal Acer laptop even existed. It suddenly came up with the Acer Aspire 4330 series, which is exactly what I had been describing the whole time. I'm about 90% sure that's what I had. Strange though... most of the search results are from outside the US. Who knows where this thing originally came from. 😅