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Reply 1080 of 1091, by keropi

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well this is certainly not normal behavior - if the card had developed for some reason bad output it would be audible regardless of OS
is there anything common between your systems? maybe there is something messing with the chip and it's control

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Reply 1081 of 1091, by Marmes

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If the card work well in DOS and not in Windows with another card loaded as well, there is some sort of conflict. I don't think you can mess with both mixer at the same time.
Also how are you routing audio output?
Directly to a mixer? I mean individually from each card?
Or are you connecting output from O2 to SbLive?

Reply 1082 of 1091, by Kordanor

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There is currently no other soundcard active. In this Fresh Install the Orpheus II LT is the only installed (physically and drivers) soundcard.

Maybe it's also an idea to test it the other way around. Do you have Hexen 2 for example? As it's extremely easy to reproduce the problem there. Set all volumes in windows to 100% and set the Hexen 2 volume to 100% and you will hear it clipping.
Then you can start decreasing volumes until this stops. Banging the sword against the wall stops clipping earlier, but it will then still clip if other sounds are active as well, as shown in the video.
With everything at 80% it is still terrible on my machine in battles, and the sound volume is what I consider as normal.

Reply 1083 of 1091, by Kordanor

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Regarding the used systems:
Mine is:
OS: Windows 98 SE
Board: SS7, ACORP 5ali61
CPU: AMD K6 II+ @600MHz
Graphics: Voodoo 3 3500 on AGP (+Currently also an Trio64 2 on PCI)

The other guy's is:
OS: Windows 98 SE
Board: SS7
CPU: AMD K6 III @630MHz
Graphics: Voodoo 4 4500 on AGP

Reply 1084 of 1091, by Tiido

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Like YMF71x chips, the Crystal chips also have positive gain in the mixer levels, up to +12db which is 4x boost compared to normal 0db level. With the mixer sliders at max you are guaranteed to have clipping. I don't know where on the crystal mixer the 0db is, but for example on YMF71x chips in windows, 0db is the first notch from bottom, anything above adds gain (and thus increases noise too). EDIT: fixed typos...

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Reply 1085 of 1091, by Kordanor

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So there are no other things to try? Are there any other ways to increase volume "internally" without touching any windows slider?

Reply 1086 of 1091, by JSO

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I'm facing an issue with the card. Orphinit and Unisound cannot initialize the card. It's a KT7A Raid motherboard, 9800XT, SB Live!, optical drive and two hdds (one Windows 98SE, second DOS and Windows 3.11). On the drive with 98SE if I run Orphinit and Unisound the card is being initialized, but my primary sound card even for pure DOS or DOS prompt is the Live!.

When I'm booting on the DOS hdd I'm facing the issue. What I did before the booting was to replace the CMOS battery because it has drained. It's an IRQ, DMA conflict?
On this board always COM, Parallel, RAID controller, USB controller, APM, and assign VGA and USB IRQs are disabled.

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Reply 1087 of 1091, by ElBrunzy

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Kordanor : I remember having similar issue with my orpheus 1 at first as the orphinit.exe configuration file was not obvious to me and I had set some level parameters incorrectly. Do you somehow initialize the card before you load windows in your autoexec.bat ?

Reply 1088 of 1091, by JSO

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Yesterday I modified many parameters for Blaster but with no luck. I experience it when I first installed the card on the system, but I don't remember what I did. I need to remove the card from motherboard to see if it's a conflict.

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Reply 1089 of 1091, by NeoG_

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JSO wrote on Yesterday, 05:02:

When I'm booting on the DOS hdd I'm facing the issue. What I did before the booting was to replace the CMOS battery because it has drained. It's an IRQ, DMA conflict?

You probably had the BIOS set the DMA and IRQ to Legacy ISA so nothing else would take it using PnP. Those setting would be cleared when you reset the CMOS replacing the battery.

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Reply 1090 of 1091, by Kordanor

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ElBrunzy wrote on Today, 04:36:

Kordanor : I remember having similar issue with my orpheus 1 at first as the orphinit.exe configuration file was not obvious to me and I had set some level parameters incorrectly. Do you somehow initialize the card before you load windows in your autoexec.bat ?

The Orpheus card was not loaded in any way when Windows got installed as far as I remember.
I didnt solve the issue. I just switched to my SB16 for any Windows application.

Reply 1091 of 1091, by JSO

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I solved it.

I just removed the sound cards, reseated them and worked! I left it without power and cmos battery for 5 minutes.

Thank you.

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