iiamsiincere wrote on Today, 13:51:

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Hello

Curious about something to expand my knowledge of Component.
This question is primarily for those who have an understanding of this question. It may be an easy answer, so apologies. IF you don't genuinely know, it's completely fine, I'm also asking other groups I'm a part of that this question relates to. So PLEASE, feel free not provide any guesses if you genuinely don't know (I mean that in nice way).

When outputting Composite/S-Video/Component from a computer to SDTV, it tends to output 480i/30Hz or 480p/60hz. From my experience, finding an SDTV that can output 480p is either very rare or they just weren't made (I definitely don't know enough to say one way or another). For my Trinitron, 480p is a no go.

I've used a transcoder before for outputting VGA from a computer, going into a transcoder and from there outputting component to the TV. This is a 480p signal from a GPU that's been modified (with EMUdriver/Atom-15) that can be converted to Component.

It has it's issues that require me to tinker more. 480i seems to for me to tinker less. I assume it's because it was intended for SDTV, where 480p was intended for HDTV.

My actual question: Is it possible to output 480i/60hz (or 59.94) from the computer and have the transcoder output the same thing through component? I wouldn't mind S-Video as well but I don't currently have a transcoder for VGA-to-S-Video (and I don't think that exists).

Hi, dont understand what you want to do, for sure my english, but if you just want 480i, why not use a normal VGA>SVIDEO or whetever you need converter. It will convert 480p to 480i, is cheap and easy to find

Or your CRT have component input? in this case RGB to Components, and CRTemudriver for sure will work

All the information is really tied to "15khz" rather than "480i" because of the arcade/emulation scene. The ability to output a 15khz signal is dependent on the GPU and driver. CRT EMUDriver is an option for some Radeon cards. I believe you can do it with custom resolutions in the control panel for nVidia GPUs up to the 10 series as well.

480p/31khz standard definition CRT TVs do exist but are rare as you surmised, the feature is typically only found on HD CRT TVs. You can also get boards like the GBS-8100 that will do the 31khz to 15khz conversion.

NeoG_ wrote on Today, 14:13:

All the information is really tied to "15khz" rather than "480i" because of the arcade/emulation scene. The ability to output a 15khz signal is dependent on the GPU and driver. CRT EMUDriver is an option for some Radeon cards. I believe you can do it with custom resolutions in the control panel for nVidia GPUs up to the 10 series as well.

480p/31khz standard definition CRT TVs do exist but are rare as you surmised, the feature is typically only found on HD CRT TVs. You can also get boards like the GBS-8100 that will do the 31khz to 15khz conversion.

With nvidia cards winmodelines work fine, but never tested in a modern one, in my 9800GT work fine

theelf wrote on Today, 14:15:

NeoG_ wrote on Today, 14:13:

All the information is really tied to "15khz" rather than "480i" because of the arcade/emulation scene. The ability to output a 15khz signal is dependent on the GPU and driver. CRT EMUDriver is an option for some Radeon cards. I believe you can do it with custom resolutions in the control panel for nVidia GPUs up to the 10 series as well.

480p/31khz standard definition CRT TVs do exist but are rare as you surmised, the feature is typically only found on HD CRT TVs. You can also get boards like the GBS-8100 that will do the 31khz to 15khz conversion.

With nvidia cards winmodelines work fine, but never tested in a modern one, in my 9800GT work fine

I have a Geforce 6600 that was intended to but output to either SDTV or HDTV (It mentions EDTV as well but acknowledges that this isn't a normal option people would have). If I use winmodelines (hopefully in Windows XP) and go from Component (or S-Video) directly to the SDTV (instead of through a transcoder), that would theoretically provide me with 480i/60hz (or maybe 59.94 in this scenario)?

iiamsiincere wrote on Today, 15:01:

theelf wrote on Today, 14:15:

NeoG_ wrote on Today, 14:13:

All the information is really tied to "15khz" rather than "480i" because of the arcade/emulation scene. The ability to output a 15khz signal is dependent on the GPU and driver. CRT EMUDriver is an option for some Radeon cards. I believe you can do it with custom resolutions in the control panel for nVidia GPUs up to the 10 series as well.

480p/31khz standard definition CRT TVs do exist but are rare as you surmised, the feature is typically only found on HD CRT TVs. You can also get boards like the GBS-8100 that will do the 31khz to 15khz conversion.

With nvidia cards winmodelines work fine, but never tested in a modern one, in my 9800GT work fine

I have a Geforce 6600 that was intended to but output to either SDTV or HDTV (It mentions EDTV as well but acknowledges that this isn't a normal option people would have). If I use winmodelines (hopefully in Windows XP) and go from Component (or S-Video) directly to the SDTV (instead of through a transcoder), that would theoretically provide me with 480i/60hz (or maybe 59.94 in this scenario)?

I live in europe, then i use RGB over scart, but i tested a rgb>component some time ago and work fine 240p-480i but need to be just a color space converter i think are called passive. Svideo is a different story, is not just colorspace, you need a active converter

In case you have winxp i recommend a ATI card, but the nvidia will work fine to

winxp > winmodelines > 6600gt > RGB from VGA to component converter

theelf wrote on Today, 15:14:

I live in europe, then i use RGB over scart, but i tested a rgb>component some time ago and work fine 240p-480i but need to b […]
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iiamsiincere wrote on Today, 15:01:

theelf wrote on Today, 14:15:

With nvidia cards winmodelines work fine, but never tested in a modern one, in my 9800GT work fine

I have a Geforce 6600 that was intended to but output to either SDTV or HDTV (It mentions EDTV as well but acknowledges that this isn't a normal option people would have). If I use winmodelines (hopefully in Windows XP) and go from Component (or S-Video) directly to the SDTV (instead of through a transcoder), that would theoretically provide me with 480i/60hz (or maybe 59.94 in this scenario)?

I live in europe, then i use RGB over scart, but i tested a rgb>component some time ago and work fine 240p-480i but need to be just a color space converter i think are called passive. Svideo is a different story, is not just colorspace, you need a active converter

In case you have winxp i recommend a ATI card, but the nvidia will work fine to

winxp > winmodelines > 6600gt > RGB from VGA to component converter

In this specific scenario, I can't switch out the GPU as it's part of an Entertainment Center line from HP. So, I would need to either find another GPU (ATI) that also uses these adapters for Analog/TV out, or I would have to DIY a situation where I find a low profile GPU that utilizes TV Out options out of the box but I haven't even been able to figure out the name of the adapter my 6600 uses and I can't seem to find information on it within Techpowerup. As far as I know, it's an HP OEM version of it.

iiamsiincere wrote on Today, 15:22:

theelf wrote on Today, 15:14:

I live in europe, then i use RGB over scart, but i tested a rgb>component some time ago and work fine 240p-480i but need to b […]
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iiamsiincere wrote on Today, 15:01:

I have a Geforce 6600 that was intended to but output to either SDTV or HDTV (It mentions EDTV as well but acknowledges that this isn't a normal option people would have). If I use winmodelines (hopefully in Windows XP) and go from Component (or S-Video) directly to the SDTV (instead of through a transcoder), that would theoretically provide me with 480i/60hz (or maybe 59.94 in this scenario)?

I live in europe, then i use RGB over scart, but i tested a rgb>component some time ago and work fine 240p-480i but need to be just a color space converter i think are called passive. Svideo is a different story, is not just colorspace, you need a active converter

In case you have winxp i recommend a ATI card, but the nvidia will work fine to

winxp > winmodelines > 6600gt > RGB from VGA to component converter

In this specific scenario, I can't switch out the GPU as it's part of an Entertainment Center line from HP. So, I would need to either find another GPU (ATI) that also uses these adapters for Analog/TV out, or I would have to DIY a situation where I find a low profile GPU that utilizes TV Out options out of the box but I haven't even been able to figure out the name of the adapter my 6600 uses and I can't seem to find information on it within Techpowerup. As far as I know, it's an HP OEM version of it.

if you just need 480i, why not use a cheap vga>svideo converter? quality will be fine for a 480i output, like videos or some modern 480p games