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What happened to Phil from Philscomputerlab?

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Reply 60 of 63, by ElectroSoldier

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rmay635703 wrote on Today, 13:56:
He got a free portable 4k 19” LCD, very expensive piece considering most portable screens are sub $100 things. […]
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ElectroSoldier wrote on Yesterday, 18:17:

Cant help but think he sold out in the later years once he got popular.
There were a few product placement videos in there.
Related products yes but product placement never the less.

He got a free portable 4k 19” LCD, very expensive piece considering most portable screens are sub $100 things.

It seems to be pretty common to product placement to make ends meet but getting free kit isn’t really selling out.

I’ve been very disappointed that small 4k screens 21-24” no longer exist but I’m not spending almost $500 for a portable or $1200 for an obsolete tech 4k standard 24”.
Even though these would actually fit my desk at home.

ElectroSoldier wrote on Today, 13:23:
kennyPENTIUMpowers wrote on Yesterday, 07:59:

i wasnt around here at the time but i think he stopped posting on here about 10 years ago.. so that wouldnt have anything to do with him not posting on YT these days

Was it really that long ago?

Should invite him back now that he is retired, just remind him not to worry about us cranks as there are only 3-4 of us.

The idea of it isnt until you realise what really goes on.
A simple product review for a Tomlov microscope you would think is all well and good, nothing wrong with that in that the microscope is well known for being a quality bit of kit.
The problem comes in that the review is bias towards the fact you didnt pay for it, so it seems to have a higher value than what it does...
If you spend your own money on something and review it then its an honest review, if you get given it (even if you have to give it back to the company) then you will be giving it a 50/50 review even if it doesnt deserve it not because of that review but any future reviews companies might send you.

You see how many companies send you products to review if part of your review is its value for money. Which should be one of the top priorities of a review.
because its cost is always part of it as you have finite resources to gain items with.

Regardless of the person reviewing the product, the only trust worth review is the one done by a person who bought the item.
Otherwise the person doing the review has a vested interest in looking good to other companies. and is thinking about the next product they will review, and if a company will send them products to review.
If you see what I mean.

Reply 61 of 63, by Jasin Natael

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Trashbytes wrote on Today, 13:33:
ElectroSoldier wrote on Today, 13:23:
kennyPENTIUMpowers wrote on Yesterday, 07:59:

i wasnt around here at the time but i think he stopped posting on here about 10 years ago.. so that wouldnt have anything to do with him not posting on YT these days

Was it really that long ago?

Yes, Funnily enough a certain serpent who seems to revel in being a contrarian and generally argumentative with zero tact for it was involved there too ..and I have them blocked for similar reasons, I have little time for people who come off as being nothing but argumentative.

I could hazard a guess....

Reply 62 of 63, by kixs

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ElectroSoldier wrote on Today, 18:12:
The idea of it isnt until you realise what really goes on. A simple product review for a Tomlov microscope you would think is al […]
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rmay635703 wrote on Today, 13:56:
He got a free portable 4k 19” LCD, very expensive piece considering most portable screens are sub $100 things. […]
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ElectroSoldier wrote on Yesterday, 18:17:

Cant help but think he sold out in the later years once he got popular.
There were a few product placement videos in there.
Related products yes but product placement never the less.

He got a free portable 4k 19” LCD, very expensive piece considering most portable screens are sub $100 things.

It seems to be pretty common to product placement to make ends meet but getting free kit isn’t really selling out.

I’ve been very disappointed that small 4k screens 21-24” no longer exist but I’m not spending almost $500 for a portable or $1200 for an obsolete tech 4k standard 24”.
Even though these would actually fit my desk at home.

ElectroSoldier wrote on Today, 13:23:

Was it really that long ago?

Should invite him back now that he is retired, just remind him not to worry about us cranks as there are only 3-4 of us.

The idea of it isnt until you realise what really goes on.
A simple product review for a Tomlov microscope you would think is all well and good, nothing wrong with that in that the microscope is well known for being a quality bit of kit.
The problem comes in that the review is bias towards the fact you didnt pay for it, so it seems to have a higher value than what it does...
If you spend your own money on something and review it then its an honest review, if you get given it (even if you have to give it back to the company) then you will be giving it a 50/50 review even if it doesnt deserve it not because of that review but any future reviews companies might send you.

You see how many companies send you products to review if part of your review is its value for money. Which should be one of the top priorities of a review.
because its cost is always part of it as you have finite resources to gain items with.

Regardless of the person reviewing the product, the only trust worth review is the one done by a person who bought the item.
Otherwise the person doing the review has a vested interest in looking good to other companies. and is thinking about the next product they will review, and if a company will send them products to review.
If you see what I mean.

I think you might be even more biased when you actually buy something. As you're also trying to convince yourself that you've made a great purchase.

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Reply 63 of 63, by rmay635703

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kixs wrote on 40 minutes ago:
ElectroSoldier wrote on Today, 18:12:
The idea of it isnt until you realise what really goes on. A simple product review for a Tomlov microscope you would think is al […]
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rmay635703 wrote on Today, 13:56:
He got a free portable 4k 19” LCD, very expensive piece considering most portable screens are sub $100 things. […]
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He got a free portable 4k 19” LCD, very expensive piece considering most portable screens are sub $100 things.

It seems to be pretty common to product placement to make ends meet but getting free kit isn’t really selling out.

I’ve been very disappointed that small 4k screens 21-24” no longer exist but I’m not spending almost $500 for a portable or $1200 for an obsolete tech 4k standard 24”.
Even though these would actually fit my desk at home.

Should invite him back now that he is retired, just remind him not to worry about us cranks as there are only 3-4 of us.

The idea of it isnt until you realise what really goes on.
A simple product review for a Tomlov microscope you would think is all well and good, nothing wrong with that in that the microscope is well known for being a quality bit of kit.
The problem comes in that the review is bias towards the fact you didnt pay for it, so it seems to have a higher value than what it does...
If you spend your own money on something and review it then its an honest review, if you get given it (even if you have to give it back to the company) then you will be giving it a 50/50 review even if it doesnt deserve it not because of that review but any future reviews companies might send you.

You see how many companies send you products to review if part of your review is its value for money. Which should be one of the top priorities of a review.
because its cost is always part of it as you have finite resources to gain items with.

Regardless of the person reviewing the product, the only trust worth review is the one done by a person who bought the item.
Otherwise the person doing the review has a vested interest in looking good to other companies. and is thinking about the next product they will review, and if a company will send them products to review.
If you see what I mean.

I think you might be even more biased when you actually buy something. As you're also trying to convince yourself that you've made a great purchase.

Yep we have seen that happen,
it goes even further
the deal guy that spazzes out on everything that is 20% off or more off is also not necessarily unbiased either even though he only buys 1% of the clearance items on his show, he does state when it’s a waste because the next replacement is cheaper or the deal isn’t lower. Which is something.

Many of these shows are entertainment first, (deal guy makes the vast majority on viewership) usefulness or value for money is always a personal decision, lots of even steep clearance items are still worthless junk to me because I have little use for the majority of it but for folks who were buying it anyway
they can at least shave off a couple bucks or get a review of the features.

Lots of things I never even knew existed come up on those shows even if they cost too much to bother.