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Reply 740 of 788, by The Solutor

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MattRocks wrote on 2026-09-28, 19:28:

It's a tricky one. The latest release has fewer known security vulnerabilities than Chrome 108

Come on! We aren't in the IE6 days anymore, security is, almost always, just an excuse to remove bits of freedom, in IT, just like in real life.

but the risks are to users

I understand actions of websites to protect their self, also because for them the security treats are real.

But about users? Let users take care of their self!
That Appleish idea that users needs a "mom" that tells them what's good and what's bad, is simply hideous, practically and by principle.

I don't think we should be mandating hardened browsers. I think, instead, we should be educating people.

It's my motto since the dawn of times, "upgrade the users instead of downgrade OSes and programs", which is more or less the antimatter of the trend started by Apple since when they regained traction and started to turn their users in zombies.

In my view of utopia, most sites would display a banner highlighting the most significant vulnerability. And, the user would harden their banking connections rather than their anonymous hobbies. And, websites would degrade gracefully with different amounts of JavaScript disabled.

Seriously, these days OSes and Browsers are, more or less, robust enough, most of the treats for the end users, are directed directly to them, not their PCs.

People, especially uninformed, and/or busy are way simpler to hack than any browser, even IE6. The only protection from ignorance (in general, but specificy to IT security) is knowledge, not Chrome 19768

Back to the specific argument. I don't believe that a generic page, with a generic http2 error, is something the web administrator did on purpose, looks more like a misconfiguration of something.

(Hideous)Sites that blocks older browsers on purpose are relatively common, but they are used to show a clear webpage telling "we are sorry, but your browser is not supported anymore, please update, bla...bla...bla...

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Reply 741 of 788, by ldeveraux

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So anyway, would love a mod to chime in as to why they don't implement this.

Reply 742 of 788, by badmojo

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The Solutor wrote on 2026-09-28, 17:21:

Oh be sure that the world is plenty of silent haters for no reason, like you, one more won't change my life.

Oh there are reasons, and I can confirm that it's more than just one more hater.

Life? Don't talk to me about life.

Reply 744 of 788, by jmarsh

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The current version of the default browser in windows (Edge 154.0.4258.37) now seems to be blocked. This is stupid.

Reply 745 of 788, by konc

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jmarsh wrote on 2026-09-29, 11:07:

The current version of the default browser in windows (Edge 154.0.4258.37) now seems to be blocked. This is stupid.

ohhh and i thought the site blocked the coffeeshop where i usually have my break!

Reply 746 of 788, by mwdmeyer

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Oh yeah couldn’t access today, same issue it seems

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Reply 747 of 788, by red-ray

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jmarsh wrote on 2026-09-29, 11:07:

The current version of the default browser in windows (Edge 154.0.4258.37) now seems to be blocked. This is stupid.

Yes, very stupid. It's also blocked on my default system, but I have Version 83.0.478.50 on this system which is OK.

I suspect most who are blocked can't even report the issue

Reply 749 of 788, by The Solutor

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cyclone3d wrote on 2026-09-29, 17:07:

Brave works fine and has a built-in ad blocker.

Vivaldi has a built in AD block since the dawn of time as well (and ublock can be sill made working), but I don't think adblockers has anything to do with the discussed problem

Reply 750 of 788, by MattRocks

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red-ray wrote on 2026-09-29, 11:58:

I suspect most who are blocked can't even report the issue

GPUzoo.com block the entire IP range of my UK-based ISP and I can remember wanting to inform them but don't remember if I managed to dispatch an email. Maybe I couldn't find their email address.

I can only guess at what they host as I've not browsed their site directly. At first I was annoyed, but then I figured if they can't configure their website properly then they probably don't know much about GPUs anyway.

Lesson might be, if you are going to direct a user to an error page then at least include contact details on that error page.

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Reply 751 of 788, by Dude111

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Ya I def agree!!

Dont leave them no way to respond!!

Reply 752 of 788, by analog_programmer

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I have a suggestion for a new forum's functionality.

What about something like "favorite posts" bookmarking function? There's a tons of useful info in the forum, which is hard to be found later, when some of the threads became enormous. It will be very convenient, if every user could mark/flag "favorite posts" in his own personal list.

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Reply 753 of 788, by weedeewee

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analog_programmer wrote on 2026-10-12, 14:33:

I have a suggestion for a new forum's functionality.

What about something like "favorite posts" bookmarking function? There's a tons of useful info in the forum, which is hard to be found later, when some of the threads became enormous. It will be very convenient, if every user could mark/flag "favorite posts" in his own personal list.

I think your browser has a bookmark functionality that can be used for such purposes. You can bookmark a whole thread, or a single comment. As with all such lists, they tend to grow to such proportions that finding the relevant information therein also becomes tedious.

Maybe a Vogons AI powered search would be helpful ?

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Reply 754 of 788, by AlaricD

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weedeewee wrote on 2026-10-12, 15:20:

Maybe a Vogons AI powered search would be helpful ?

Gross.

Reply 755 of 788, by analog_programmer

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weedeewee wrote on 2026-10-12, 15:20:

I think your browser has a bookmark functionality that can be used for such purposes. You can bookmark a whole thread, or a single comment. As with all such lists, they tend to grow to such proportions that finding the relevant information therein also becomes tedious.

My browser is full with hundreds of bookmarked links and I barely recall which is for what 😁

The idea is forum specific and something like: One marks a post - adds his comment for the post in a field - post is saved to one's user personal "bookmarked posts" list with the comment (reminder for what is this post marked). Then, if one opens his his own "bookmarked posts" list, he could easily find a particular post, which contains some valuable information for him. I can not explain this simpler.

I have no idea, if the forum's platform could support such functionality, but there is already a personal "muted users" list, so rather it should be possible.

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Reply 756 of 788, by keropi

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I have a heretical idea, a "like" button that was discussed and dismissed AFAIR because of it's ties to social media
but I really think it is helpful to not clutter the forum, sometimes you read something good and you just want to say thanks without adding more to the discussion

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Reply 757 of 788, by ldeveraux

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keropi wrote on 2026-10-12, 15:37:

I have a heretical idea, a "like" button that was discussed and dismissed AFAIR because of it's ties to social media
but I really think it is helpful to not clutter the forum, sometimes you read something good and you just want to say thanks without adding more to the discussion

If all you want to add is a 'thanks' without explanation, you don't need to add anything at all. "Thanks, and here's something else" posts speak volumes on niche forums like this.

Reply 758 of 788, by analog_programmer

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keropi wrote on 2026-10-12, 15:37:

I have a heretical idea, a "like" button that was discussed and dismissed AFAIR because of it's ties to social media
but I really think it is helpful to not clutter the forum, sometimes you read something good and you just want to say thanks without adding more to the discussion

Yeah, and next suggestion will be for user's "likes" collected ratings and even more segregation in user groups like "new vs. old", "noobs vs. l33ts", etc. No, thanks, I prefer to writhe "thank you" in the comments, instead of clicking on those "likes" or "reaction" icons implemented by other forums.

The word Idiot refers to a person with many ideas, especially stupid and harmful ideas.
This world goes south since everything's run by financiers and economists.
This isn't voice chat, yet some people overusing online communications talk and hear voices.