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WM 0.10 - a window manager for DOS XT/286

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Reply 40 of 49, by theelf

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keropi wrote on Yesterday, 20:10:

this is getting better and better!

Hope so! todaay i sucess in port video mode to my lovely toshiba 3100!

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Reply 41 of 49, by theelf

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reflexve wrote on Yesterday, 21:38:

Hey, just wanted to say this is really awesome and I can't wait to test it out on my 486 when I have a chance. I appreciate all human developed projects, and this one has had a lot of thought put into it. Great job!

thanks a lot, start this for myself long time ago, but this year i had a lot of FREE TIME, because decide to just work for one customer, and now i have 305 free days year... jeje only work 60 days every year from now (but they are really tough)

Love to sit in home and smash keyboard!

Reply 42 of 49, by DoZator

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I tried it, and it’s actually not bad! Thank you.

In addition to itself (WML), two more COMMANDs are created when launching DOS from the shell itself (I don’t know if this is how it’s supposed to be or if it’s a bug):

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The context menu is missing the "edit" item for quickly editing BAT files. You can do without it, of course.

Reply 43 of 49, by theelf

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DoZator wrote on Today, 08:27:
I tried it, and it’s actually not bad! Thank you. […]
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I tried it, and it’s actually not bad! Thank you.

In addition to itself (WML), two more COMMANDs are created when launching DOS from the shell itself (I don’t know if this is how it’s supposed to be or if it’s a bug):

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The context menu is missing the "edit" item for quickly editing BAT files. You can do without it, of course.

thanks man! yes you are right, is a bug i did not realize, because i use 4dos! totally forget to test just with plain command.com jeje too many years using 4dos forget was there

About right button options, YES, is a "need to do next" thing i have in mind but never do, this week end i will have free time since my wife is working, i will do, is good fo me too. Is just boring coding thats why i dont do, is not adding a new video mode or new sound card.. you know sommething fun... 😀 for now i add just edit to BAT, 4CD, INI, TXT, CFG, SYS, LOG, DOC, NFO, ME, 1ST, DIZ, ASC, LST, MD, C, H, PAS, BAS and ASM...

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Please check this fast fix, i just add command.com to same route i use for 4dos. I check and no dupplicated command.com

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Wm need 3kb convenctional memory when is using as shell, i dont think is bad

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Modules using memory below 1Mb: […]
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Modules using memory below 1Mb:

Name Total = Conventional + Upper Memory
-------- ---------------- ---------------- ----------------
SYSTEM 12,688 (12K) 12,640 (12K) 48 (0K)
G2MMC 13,312 (13K) 13,312 (13K) 0 (0K)
HIMEM 816 (1K) 816 (1K) 0 (0K)
COMMAND 2,704 (3K) 2,704 (3K) 0 (0K)
CTMOUSE 3,328 (3K) 3,328 (3K) 0 (0K)
CDMKE 11,376 (11K) 0 (0K) 11,376 (11K)
MTMCDS 10,304 (10K) 0 (0K) 10,304 (10K)
MSCDEX 8,816 (9K) 0 (0K) 8,816 (9K)
FREE 688,752 (673K) 622,544 (608K) 66,208 (65K)

Memory summary:

Type of Memory Total = Used + Free
---------------- ----------- ----------- -----------
Conventional 655,360 32,816 622,544
Upper 96,752 30,544 66,208
Reserved 362,000 362,000 0
Extended (XMS) 3,080,192 65,536 3,014,656
---------------- ----------- ----------- -----------
Total memory 4,194,304 490,896 3,703,408

Total under 1Mb 752,112 63,360 688,752

Total Extended (XMS) 3,080,192 (3,008K)
Free Extended (XMS) 3,014,656 (2,944K)

Largest executable program size 622,208 (608K)
Largest free upper memory block 65,968 (64K)
Available space in High Memory Area 352 (0K)
PC DOS is resident in the high memory area.

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Name Total = Conventional + Upper Memory -------- ---------------- ---------------- --------------- […]
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Name Total = Conventional + Upper Memory
-------- ---------------- ---------------- ----------------
SYSTEM 12,688 (12K) 12,640 (12K) 48 (0K)
G2MMC 13,312 (13K) 13,312 (13K) 0 (0K)
HIMEM 816 (1K) 816 (1K) 0 (0K)
COMMAND 2,704 (3K) 2,704 (3K) 0 (0K)
WML 2,848 (3K) 2,848 (3K) 0 (0K)
CTMOUSE 3,328 (3K) 3,328 (3K) 0 (0K)
CDMKE 11,376 (11K) 0 (0K) 11,376 (11K)
MTMCDS 10,304 (10K) 0 (0K) 10,304 (10K)
MSCDEX 8,816 (9K) 0 (0K) 8,816 (9K)
FREE 685,904 (670K) 619,696 (605K) 66,208 (65K)

Memory summary:

Type of Memory Total = Used + Free
---------------- ----------- ----------- -----------
Conventional 655,360 35,664 619,696
Upper 96,752 30,544 66,208
Reserved 362,000 362,000 0
Extended (XMS) 3,080,192 65,536 3,014,656
---------------- ----------- ----------- -----------
Total memory 4,194,304 493,744 3,700,560

Total under 1Mb 752,112 66,208 685,904

Total Extended (XMS) 3,080,192 (3,008K)
Free Extended (XMS) 3,014,656 (2,944K)

Largest executable program size 619,600 (605K)
Largest free upper memory block 65,968 (64K)
Available space in High Memory Area 352 (0K)
PC DOS is resident in the high memory area.

Reply 44 of 49, by DoZator

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Thank you for the quick improvement. In the new version, the context menu now already includes "edit" and everything works correctly. Instead of three "COMMAND" options, now there are only two left (+WML), which is already better! I’m currently testing all of this on the original MS-DOS 7.10 configuration, without any third-party software (except for the mouse driver). I’m not sure - maybe that’s how it’s supposed to be?

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Reply 45 of 49, by analog_programmer

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In short - that is how it supposed to be (two DOS command line interpreters loaded - one from the DOS itself and the second from WM) with the current WM "architecture". Perhaps there's a way to avoid the second COMMAND.COM, 4DOS.COM or whatever command line interpreter loading like with Doszip Commander, but I'm not the one to mess with WM's code.

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Reply 46 of 49, by theelf

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DoZator wrote on Today, 11:02:

Thank you for the quick improvement. In the new version, the context menu now already includes "edit" and everything works correctly. Instead of three "COMMAND" options, now there are only two left (+WML), which is already better! I’m currently testing all of this on the original MS-DOS 7.10 configuration, without any third-party software (except for the mouse driver). I’m not sure - maybe that’s how it’s supposed to be?

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yes, like analog_programmer say, is correct. If you for example, launch a game, directly from WM, you will only have one command instance, but if you open a prompt, or ejecute a bat, etc you will have 2, since first one is for WM

Reply 47 of 49, by LordMMX

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Looks amazing. I wanted to do this with Calmira Nextgen, but in the end it was easier to go Windows 3.1 shell route

Reply 48 of 49, by mtest001

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This looks impressive. Can it run under MS-DOS 7.0?

/me love my P200MMX@225 Mhz + Voodoo Banshee + SB32 PnP + Sound Canvas SC-55ST = unlimited joy !

Reply 49 of 49, by theelf

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mtest001 wrote on Today, 16:13:

This looks impressive. Can it run under MS-DOS 7.0?

Never tested but i dont see why not, work fine on FAT32, in my 286 i run PCDOS 7.1 with a 16gb fat32 partition