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First post, by Venter127

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I have Several games in which I would love to play, but cant, due to debilitating problems, and Need help. Im running Vista on a Toshiba satellite laptop, and my DOSbox version is 0.72. Also, I checked out the README of each game, and all of them either didn't help me, or I wasn't able to read the entire thing.

The first game is Darkseed, but I don't think its a problem with the game, since i've tried a few different versions already, all giving me the same results. What's intresting to note is that there are 2 different applications in my current darkseed folder, One entitled "START," while the other is called "TOS". My current method of getting these games to run is by dragging the applications or batch files over the DOSbox Icon, but when I try the "Start" App, I get prompted for the sound type and interface choice, then it proceeds with the intro as it always had. Then, as it reaches the area where the game is supposed to start, it just goes to a black screen and stays there until my patience runs out and I kill the program. However, when I try the "TOS" app, the game picks up where the other app seemingly left off, and I start the gameplay. I can play the game, up untill I try to leave the house (which I assume is where I needed to go, since the doorbell was ringing, and as I opened the door, someone was standing in front of it), then it goes to a black screen like it had after the intro. After trying the "Start" app again, im given a cutscene of a baby doll inside of a box instead of the intro (which scared the crap out of me the first time). I couldnt tell you if this cutscene was supposed to come after I left the house or not, but after that I tried the "TOS" app one more time, and it started outside my house. My initial thought is that "Start" shows the cutscenes, while "TOS" does the gameplay, and one picks up after the other stops at the black screen, but I couldnt say for sure. Any suggestions?

The next game is Elder Scrolls 1: Arena, as far as it's concerned, the game still runs horribly slow. I tried the app labeled "Install", but it wont let me proceed, saying that I need the floppy disk (which I obviously don't have). So, I just try the batch file with the name of the game instead, and it runs as though I never needed to installed it. I tried the "Ctrl+F12" keystroke, and it speeds up the game a bit, but there are still significant framerate issues, though it seems to stop working after a certen point, and i'm afraid to keep pressing it, in fear of damaging my computer or the program.

Next up is Elder scrolls 2: Daggerfell. The folder for it contains several WinRar archive files, all by the name of "dagger", A folder called "DAGGER", and several more files that go by the name of "dagger" as well, but have an unknown file extension called ".r" and a number starting at thirty, going up by one each new file down. The folder also contains a winRar application called "dagger". Ive had this folder a while, and I remember I couldnt get it working then either, but when I run the winRar app, it tries extracting several files, many of which it says already exist (im assuming i've already run this before), and when it finishes, it says it encountered an error of some sort. If i proceed into the folder marked "DAGGER," there exist your usual assortment of files, folders and apps. Obviously I try the install app, and everything runs smoothly, untill the instillation begins, at which im kicked back to the DOS prompt, with a message saying that it couldn't find a file labeled "font0000.fnt" in the "DATA" folder. After checking the mentioned folder, however, I find that that file is quite clearly there.

The last game is a little-known FPS called "Zero population count" or "zpc" for short. Trying the apps in this folder give me a variety of responses. Some say that that command is illegal, one even says that "Microsoft windows is required". If I try the app called "autorun," it says that it cant be run in DOS mode, but trying to run the app in the normal window begins to load something, but nothing ever shows up. If i try to run the app labeled "crack" (and before you admins lay down the ban hammer beacuse you saw the "c word," as it was described to me on other forums, this game was legal abandonware), The signature of whoever cracked the game appears, then I get a message telling me "Error, cannot find the file to patch".

I'm pretty inept at DOSbox and their games, as you can see, so I could use a bit of help, as I seem to have exhausted my immediate resources. I'll continue to work with these games to see if I can make some progress, and if more detail is needed, feel free to ask (so long as you do it politely, as was a problem in my last post.)

As always, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Reply 1 of 19, by Venter127

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Actually, forget about what I said on Darkseed. One kind soul in my last post instructed me that I simply needed to use a batch file, hidden between the countless other files, that used both apps in conjunction.

Reply 2 of 19, by wd

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and my DOSbox version is 0.72

Upgrade.

Reply 3 of 19, by Venter127

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The problems still persist, but thank you anyways. I tried Arena again, and after pressing "Ctrl+F12" 30 or so times, got it to a desired speed. Now I need to know if doing something like that could harm my Computer or ruin my program in some way, and if not, is there a way I can save those settings? In the end, i'd be much more comfortable with being able to run the install, however, so If anyone knows how to get past the aformentioned problem with that, please let me know.

Reply 4 of 19, by SKARDAVNELNATE

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have an unknown file extension called ".r" and a number starting at thirty

I'm guessing here but it sounds like you need the other 29 files to finish extracting the game from that archive.

it couldn't find a file labeled "font0000.fnt" in the "DATA" folder. After checking the mentioned folder, however, I find that that file is quite clearly there.

That's likely only a partial file. One of the archives you're missing would have completed it.

"Microsoft windows is required". If I try the app called "autorun," it says that it cant be run in DOS mode

You have the Windows Version of that game.

but trying to run the app in the normal window begins to load something, but nothing ever shows up

It must have been for Windows 95. Vista is horrible for compatibility with old software.

is there a way I can save those settings?

Edit the conf file for DOSBox. There should be a short cut in the start menu. Set CPU cycles to the number shown at the title bar when you got it to a good speed. Too high will not damage your computer, you'll just see the game slow down again.

Reply 5 of 19, by Venter127

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I'm guessing here but it sounds like you need the other 29 files to finish extracting the game from that archive.

That's likely only a partial file. One of the archives you're missing would have completed it.

That makes sense. Its likely that most of the files are either missing or incomplete. To avoid frustration, i'm just going to delete that one, and download it again, in the hopes that everything comes through alright this time

Also, I tried installing Arena the manual way (mounting and whatnot) and issued the command "Install CD". When I got to the install menu, instead of telling me that it couldn't find the cd when I tried to install it, but when it asked me for a directory, it says "Cannot find information file", no matter what i type in.

Too high will not damage your computer

Edit the conf file for DOSBox. There should be a short cut in the start menu.

Well, that certenly good to know, but Id rather not make the other games I play run at hyperspeed because I changed that setting in the config file, so it looks like Ill just have to hit that keystroke a few time when I start the game. Nothing too terrible, just a minor inconvenience.

Reply 6 of 19, by wd

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I tried installing Arena the manual way (mounting and whatnot)

How do the exact mountings look like?

Reply 7 of 19, by Venter127

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How do the exact mountings look like?

"mount a c:\users\username\desktop\ARENA"

Then I issue the "Install CD command," if thats what you mean.

Reply 9 of 19, by Venter127

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I dont actually have the CD of the game, I just downloaded the abandonware files, so I dont think that article is going to help me, but thanks anyways

Reply 10 of 19, by wd

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TES:Arena is NOT abandonware, it's been released for free by the copyright holder.
http://www.elderscrolls.com/downloads/downloads_games.htm

Check the accompanied pdf, that should work though it's not the best/recommended
way to actually run it.

Reply 11 of 19, by MiniMax

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This config works for me.

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Reply 12 of 19, by Venter127

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Sorry, I tend to generalize, since Most DOS games are abandonware. Anyways, I think I can live with it as is. If I run into any future trouble, Ill be back later.

Now all that's left is ZPC and Daggerfell if it doesnt work after i redownload it.

Reply 13 of 19, by Venter127

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This config works for me.

Thank you for the file. However, though this may reflect poorly on my intelligence, im not quite sure what to do with it.

Reply 14 of 19, by DosFreak

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Venter127 wrote:

Sorry, I tend to generalize, since Most DOS games are abandonware. Anyways, I think I can live with it as is. If I run into any future trouble, Ill be back later.

Now all that's left is ZPC and Daggerfell if it doesnt work after i redownload it.

No DOS games are "abandonware" because "abandonware" does not exist.

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Reply 15 of 19, by Venter127

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No DOS games are "abandonware" because "abandonware" does not exist.

I guess I need to brush up on my definitions.

Reply 16 of 19, by Dominus

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I guess this thread has to die now, since it seems none of the games is owned by the op and he only downloads them from shady sites...

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Reply 17 of 19, by ADDiCT

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I agree. Not one of the problems seems to be connected to DOSBox. Waste of time trying to help with faulty or incomplete warez packages.

Reply 18 of 19, by Venter127

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Shady sites they are not, and I still need help with at least 1 game, if not 2, so don't go declaring this thread dead.

Reply 19 of 19, by Qbix

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*case closed* Ask at the so called abandonware place where you got the games for support.

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