Red Alert on DOSBox lost map texture and crashes \ VOGONS

Red Alert on DOSBox lost map texture and crashes

Topic actions

First post, by tetrapilotomator

Posted on 2010-02-23, 21:56

tetrapilotomator Offline

Rank Newbie

Rank: Newbie
Posts: 6
Joined: 2010-02-23, 21:26

Hello out there,

I installed Command & Conquer: Red Alert on my DOSBox, played it for a week or so, had a network session with a fried yesterday and today found that the game has no map textures anymore. My soldiers are walking on a black screen and leaving a trace of theier own texture when walking. After a minute or so playing, the game crashes (crashlog: see below). It happenes everytime and in every game mode.

I allready copied my friends REDALERT.mix to my directory, reinstalled the game and run it with the two diffrent game CDs (mounted as .iso). So I think it's a DOSBox Problem.

I've tried in the DOSBox.config

1output=overlay

and

1output=surface

both didn't work.

And yes, I allready searched the web for this probelm: Two people had it, but it was never answered. So maybe we could solve it once and forever? My fried and I would be very happy.

Here some Information

RedAlert v.1.04
DOSBox 0.72
MacOS 10.4.11 (Tiger)

My DOSBox.config looks like this:

1[sdl]
2fullscreen=false
3fulldouble=false
4fullresolution=original
5windowresolution=original
6output=overlay
7autolock=true
8sensitivity=100
9waitonerror=true
10priority=higher,normal
11mapperfile=mapper.txt
12usescancodes=true
13
14[dosbox]
15language=
16machine=vga
17captures=capture
18memsize=16
19
20[render]
21frameskip=0
22aspect=false
23scaler=normal2x
24
25[cpu]
26core=auto
27cycles=auto
28cycleup=500
29cycledown=20
30
31[mixer]
32mpu401=intelligent
33device=default
34config=
35
36[sblaster]
37sbtype=sb16
38sbbase=220
39irq=7
40dma=1
41hdma=5
42mixer=true
43oplmode=auto
44oplrate=22050
45
46[gus]
47gus=true
48gusrate=22050
49gusbase=240
50irq1=5
51irq2=5
52dma1=3
53dma2=3
54ultradir=C:\ULTRASND
55
56[speaker]
57pcspeaker=true
58pcrate=22050
59tandy=auto
60tandyrate=22050

…Show last 32 lines

61disney=true
62
63[joystick]
64joysticktype=auto
65timed=true
66autofire=false
67swap34=false
68buttonwrap=true
69
70[serial]
71serial1=dummy
72serial2=dummy
73serial3=disabled
74serial4=disabled
75
76[dos]
77xms=true
78ems=true
79umb=true
80keyboardlayout=none
81
82[ipx]
83ipx=true
84
85[autoexec]
86keyb gr
87mount c ~/Cephalopod
88imgmount d ~/Cephalopod/RedAlert/iso/CD1_ALLIED_DISC.ISO -t iso
89ipxnet startserver 3001
90c:
91cd WESTWOOD/REDALERT

Reply 1 of 28, by Qbix

Posted on 2010-02-23, 22:05

Qbix Offline

Rank DOSBox Author

Rank: DOSBox Author
Posts: 11324
Joined: 2002-11-27, 14:50
Location: Fryslan

did you try dosbox 0.73 ?

Water flows down the stream
How to ask questions the smart way!

Reply 2 of 28, by tetrapilotomator

Posted on 2010-02-23, 22:22

tetrapilotomator Offline

Rank Newbie

Rank: Newbie
Posts: 6
Joined: 2010-02-23, 21:26

Downloaded DOSBox 0.73
ReInstalled RedAlert
Problem Remains

Would have been too nice....

Reply 3 of 28, by robertmo

Posted on 2010-02-23, 22:27

robertmo Offline

Rank l33t++

Rank: l33t++
Posts: 6003
Joined: 2003-06-18, 10:35

memsize=63

Reply 4 of 28, by tetrapilotomator

Posted on 2010-02-23, 22:33

tetrapilotomator Offline

Rank Newbie

Rank: Newbie
Posts: 6
Joined: 2010-02-23, 21:26

...nope... (same problem...)

edit: the game doesn't crash anymore and my avatar is a screenshot of my problem.

Reply 5 of 28, by filipetolhuizen

Posted on 2010-02-24, 01:19

filipetolhuizen Offline

Rank Oldbie

Rank: Oldbie
Posts: 1438
Joined: 2006-10-24, 02:25
Location: Curitiba, Brazil

Try changing output to surface or opengl.

Reply 6 of 28, by tetrapilotomator

Posted on 2010-02-24, 07:17

tetrapilotomator Offline

Rank Newbie

Rank: Newbie
Posts: 6
Joined: 2010-02-23, 21:26

I allready tried "surface" (see above), "opengl" doesn`t work. (red alert obviously is no openGL game...)

What I'm wondering most, is that it worked perfectly before for more then a week. The only thing I changed, is that I've plugged a mouse into my laptop (didn't mention that before... but how should the mouse produce a graphic problem!?)

Reply 7 of 28, by Qbix

Posted on 2010-02-24, 07:36

Qbix Offline

Rank DOSBox Author

Rank: DOSBox Author
Posts: 11324
Joined: 2002-11-27, 14:50
Location: Fryslan

it shouldn't.

Water flows down the stream
How to ask questions the smart way!

Reply 8 of 28, by robertmo

Posted on 2010-02-24, 08:04

robertmo Offline

Rank l33t++

Rank: l33t++
Posts: 6003
Joined: 2003-06-18, 10:35

post your dosbox config file

Reply 9 of 28, by eL_PuSHeR

Posted on 2010-02-24, 08:23

eL_PuSHeR Offline

Rank l33t++

Rank: l33t++
Posts: 6570
Joined: 2003-06-20, 16:39

[Moved to DOSBox Games/Apps. Section]

Intel i7 5960X
Gigabye GA-X99-Gaming 5
8 GB DDR4 (2100)
8 GB GeForce GTX 1070 G1 Gaming (Gigabyte)

Reply 10 of 28, by tetrapilotomator

Posted on 2010-02-24, 08:24

tetrapilotomator Offline

Rank Newbie

Rank: Newbie
Posts: 6
Joined: 2010-02-23, 21:26

It is posted above, in the opening thread.

So, here is what I've thought about:

The menu works, so its not a general graphic problem.

The problem seems to be unknown from the game running on real DOS machines, otherwise someone should have posted something on any forum (it's a very popular game).

I think, there is a problem on refreshing the textures properbly, because of the "tails" of the soldiers. So, what part of DOSBox is resposible for drawing textures on the screen? Does the computer write anything in this part by itself, making the problem appear without user interaction?

(I'll be on work for the next couple of hours...)

Reply 11 of 28, by robertmo

Posted on 2010-02-24, 09:22

robertmo Offline

Rank l33t++

Rank: l33t++
Posts: 6003
Joined: 2003-06-18, 10:35

that above is from different dosbox!

Reply 12 of 28, by franpa

Posted on 2010-02-24, 09:50

franpa Offline

Rank Oldbie

Rank: Oldbie
Posts: 659
Joined: 2006-04-02, 06:26
Location: Australia

If you can't use OpenGL then please post your computer specs and what drivers you are using if any. This setting controls how DOSBox displays things and is independant of what games think is happening so games will always assume they are running in DOS which doesn't support OpenGL (not well at least)

AMD Ryzen 3700X | ASUS Crosshair Hero VIII (WiFi) | 16GB DDR4 3600MHz RAM | MSI Geforce 1070Ti 8GB | Windows 10 Pro x64.

my website

Reply 13 of 28, by h-a-l-9000

Posted on 2010-02-24, 11:23

h-a-l-9000 Offline

Rank DOSBox Author

Rank: DOSBox Author
Posts: 4511
Joined: 2005-02-23, 00:14

Have you tried ipx=false?

1+1=10

Reply 14 of 28, by DosFreak

Posted on 2010-02-24, 11:58

DosFreak Offline

Rank l33t++

Rank: l33t++
Posts: 13662
Joined: 2002-06-30, 16:35
Location: Milliways

tetrapilotomator wrote:

The problem seems to be unknown from the game running on real DOS machines, otherwise someone should have posted something on any forum (it's a very popular game).

Just because a problem doesn't show up in Google doesn't mean it's not a problem with the game.

Red Alert is a Windows & a DOS game. Considering the original game C&C 95 came in a version that was WIDELY available without any DOS executables on the CD it's pretty safe to assume that most Red Alert players didn't even bother with the DOS version and just played the Windows version of the game.

Of course then we'd just be assuming and you know what people say about that, then again it's a pretty safe assumption.

How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
Make your games work offline

Reply 15 of 28, by robertmo

Posted on 2010-02-24, 12:20

robertmo Offline

Rank l33t++

Rank: l33t++
Posts: 6003
Joined: 2003-06-18, 10:35

i am almost sure it is a problem with memsize=16
and he changed it in the wrong way.

i have missing textures in carmageddon with memsize=16
and i think i recall such a problem with some c&c game, i think it also was memsize as i remember i was able to solve it.

Reply 16 of 28, by tetrapilotomator

Posted on 2010-02-24, 22:16

tetrapilotomator Offline

Rank Newbie

Rank: Newbie
Posts: 6
Joined: 2010-02-23, 21:26

DosFreak wrote:

Just because a problem doesn't show up in Google doesn't mean it's not a problem with the game.

True. Anyway I believe its a DOSBox problem.

About the .config: I foregot to let DOSBox write a new config, so it used to use the old one.

Now It's using the new one it just wrote for me by using

1CONFIG -writeconf dosbox.conf

(It didn't create one by itself at the first startup)

and now RedAlert doest even start anymore. 😖

I'm going to go through all this carefully again next weekend, will have a look on this memsize-entry (thx for the tipp), read the wiki and so on... Thanks for your help, I will post an update when I figured out anything.

Reply 17 of 28, by Chriscon

Posted on 2010-03-07, 15:45

Chriscon Offline

Rank Newbie

Rank: Newbie
Posts: 1
Joined: 2010-03-07, 15:42

I have the exact same problem. The game worked perfectly for about a week, but now the textures wont load.

Any luck fixing the issue yet?

Reply 18 of 28, by Qbix

Posted on 2010-03-07, 15:59

Qbix Offline

Rank DOSBox Author

Rank: DOSBox Author
Posts: 11324
Joined: 2002-11-27, 14:50
Location: Fryslan

reinstall the game ?

Water flows down the stream
How to ask questions the smart way!

Reply 19 of 28, by Espinator

Posted on 2010-07-25, 14:09

Espinator Offline

Rank Newbie

Rank: Newbie
Posts: 2
Joined: 2010-07-25, 14:01
Location: UK

I see this thread isn't exactly brimming with activity, but I have this same problem and still cannot find a solution (including all of the above). I'm a bit of a noob so any help with this would be greatly appreciated! 😀

These are the rigs of the times, me boys.

Go to top of page Go to top of page

Back to DOSBox Games/Apps