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How good is this? (New PC)

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Reply 60 of 139, by Mau1wurf1977

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Well for Duke3D in SVGA you would need a very fast Pentium 3. I don't believe Duke3D supports any 3D cards.

Quake I believe has support for 3D cards though. A 3DFX Voodoo would likely be supported.

OT but I find it funny that you are playing Quake and SVGA Duke 3D, because when you came here you mentioned DOS 6.22 and Alley Cat 🤣

For DOS and SVGA my recommendation is a Slot 1 or S370 system with ISA slots and a very fast P3.

For Slot 1 you can get adapters for 1 GHz P3s, for S370 you can run the 1.4 GHz P3.

Reply 61 of 139, by olivil

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Oh great 😀
Then I'll stick to straight VGA, I just thought it could be done 😜
If I need something beefier I'll just run a Win98SE VM on my "main daily" PC

Reply 62 of 139, by Mau1wurf1977

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DOS SVGA is very demanding, because there is no 3D acceleration involved. IF the game supports 3D acceleration (e.g. though a patch like Tomb Raider or other games), you get great SVGA performance on most Pentiums and higher.

However soon after that everything went for W98 (most on VOGONS use W98SE) and here you don't need ISA anymore. What counts is finding a board that has support for W98SE (chipset issue) and the rest is AGP and PCI.

Personally I draw a thick line between DOS and Windows era and I would build 2 machines if I was interested in playing Windows game (Not interested yet, I would have to do a lot more research first...)

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Reply 63 of 139, by olivil

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Yeah I'm not interested in W9X that much either...

Reply 64 of 139, by Mau1wurf1977

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olivil wrote:

Yeah I'm not interested in W9X that much either...

For Dos a 3DFX Voodoo is all you will need. I did have a Voodoo 2 at some point (with a P2 300 MHz), but I believe the games I played (Tomb Raider 2, Wing Commander Prophecy, Forsaken) where all Windows 98 games.

I also remember this Star Wars based game and it used Directx 6? No idea what it was, but there was a very cool scene where you had to wrap a wire around an AT walker. There was also some first person shooter action happening.

But yea no idea what game it was. This was all just before I packed up and moved to the UK. Didn't play any games for the next 4 years, so I have a huge blind spot from that era.

I picked things up again with a Northwood 2.6 and a Radeon 9800 😜

Reply 65 of 139, by senrew

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You're thinking of Shadows of the Empire

Reply 66 of 139, by Mau1wurf1977

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senrew wrote:

You're thinking of Shadows of the Empire

Looking at some videos, I think that's it!

Reply 67 of 139, by Markk

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I don't get this.... I placed the nec daughterboard on my ct3980 awe32 with the same "buggy" dsp as the sb16 I have (v4.13). I've been playing the hexen demo for half an hour, and I haven't heard a hunging note so far....

Reply 68 of 139, by retro games 100

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Markk wrote:

I don't get this.... I placed the nec daughterboard on my ct3980 awe32 with the same "buggy" dsp as the sb16 I have (v4.13). I've been playing the hexen demo for half an hour, and I haven't heard a hunging note so far....

Are you running the hexen -warp 02 demo in "pure" DOS? Also, I remember 5u3 saying that his CT3980 only occasionally emits the hanging note sound, even though its DSP is buggy.

Reply 69 of 139, by Markk

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Yes, it was on my 386 where I only have dos 6.2/win 3.11. I tried also 01-04 after warp and got me to different levels, with different music themes, and it played flawlessly....

Reply 70 of 139, by olivil

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If I'm having performance issues running Shadow Warrior, would a Voodoo help or not?
Is there GPU acceleration?

Reply 72 of 139, by olivil

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Alright, it does, any Voodoo will do? (I have no AGP slot, won't be pushing it further than Quake/BUILD games)

Reply 75 of 139, by Mau1wurf1977

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olivil wrote:

is this ok?

No! That's a Bunshee!

You want a "normal" 3DFX Voodoo...

Reply 78 of 139, by Mau1wurf1977

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Looks fine, but not sure about the brand.

IMO go for the Voodoo 2. They are cheaper, faster and I believe the chances, of you running into issues, are very slim.

EDIT: Might as well buy two; For some SLI action. 😜

Reply 79 of 139, by olivil

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The SLI is pure hardware or am I gonna run in some driver issues?

EDIT: Will I need the same brand?