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First post, by feipoa

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This topic has been discussed on and off in various other threads, but I have not seen a complete list which includes the 20 MHz and 83 MHz FSB settings. I've tested the PLL clock generator chips on various UMC 486 motherboards and all brands have the same pin-outs and clock options. The most commonly labelled clock generator chip found on Biostar MB8433 motherboards is the UM9515-01 by UMC. It is made by other manufacturers as well, but I forget the brand names.

MB8433  M919  HOT-433   20   25   33   40   50   60   66   83 MHz
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JP15 JP3A JP1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1
JP16 JP3B JP2 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 1
JP17 JP3C JP3 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0

The above frequencies were verified using an oscilloscope. 1 = jumpered, 0 = no jumper. For the HOT-433, assume jumper position 1-2 is 1 (ON) and 2-3 is 0 (OFF).

SiS motherboards also seem to support the 60/66 MHz FSB setting, however I do not have a SiS PCI 486 motherboard to verify any other FSB jumper settings. Ideally, it would be nice to find a SiS board which supports a 75 MHz FSB. For 75/83 FSB operation, you'd likely need 10 ns L2 cache.

It is my hope that this post will encourage someone to test out the 83 MHz setting with an appropriate CPU. The CPU must support the 2X multiplier as 2X (not 4X), so the most likely candidate is probably an AMD DX4-120. If this is successful, this would be the first such 486 run at 166 MHz.

The other option is to use a custom PLL chip, or one which is placed just before the CLK signal of the 486 socket. I believe there are such units with over 4000 possible clock settings. They are cheap (under $10) and use the I2C or SPI communication standards, so you could program them with a microcontroller pretty quickly. I am just not sure if you'd need to re-program them each time the power is cut. There are also some discrete value PLL's which I've sourced and have experimented with but have put this custom PLL project on hold for the time being.

Last edited by feipoa on 2012-02-02, 13:40. Edited 2 times in total.

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Reply 1 of 9, by leileilol

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Hows this working with the one on the M919?

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Reply 2 of 9, by feipoa

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I have updated the chart to include jumper settings for the M919 and HOT-433. The M919 should work out the same in therms of which FSB's are supported.

The issue with the M919 is that it employs an automatic 2/3 FSB-to-PCI multiplier for FSB settings above 33 MHz. Unfortunately there isn't a user-settable 1/2 multiplier option in the BIOS and I'm not sure if the M919 has the smarts to auto implement a 1/2 multiplier for FSB's above 50 MHz.

The HOT-433 and MB8433 have user selectable 1/2 FSB-to-PCI multiplier options in the BIOS. The MB8433 also has a user selectable 2/3 FSB-to-PCI multiplier option.

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Reply 3 of 9, by youxiaojie

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which pin is frequency output?

Reply 4 of 9, by feipoa

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youxiaojie wrote on 2025-11-18, 18:12:

which pin is frequency output?

The FSB frequency output pin on the UM9515 is pin 8 which, on the MB-8433UUD, is located adjacent to the PCI slot and nearest to the UM8886BF chip.

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Reply 5 of 9, by youxiaojie

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feipoa wrote on 2025-11-20, 11:17:
youxiaojie wrote on 2025-11-18, 18:12:

which pin is frequency output?

The FSB frequency output pin on the UM9515 is pin 8 which, on the MB-8433UUD, is located adjacent to the PCI slot and nearest to the UM8886BF chip.

do you have datasheet of um9515? mine is PCChips/Hsin Tech
M912 v1.7 (486) , diag card shows isa card's clk =0hz, so I will test with a multimeter, if it works, should be less 5v and nearly 2.5v.

Reply 6 of 9, by feipoa

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No, but it is probably similar to MX8315.

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Reply 7 of 9, by mkarcher

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feipoa wrote on 2025-11-25, 08:51:

No, but it is probably similar to MX8315.

That's a very conservative way to express it. The UM9515 seems to be functional clone of the MX8315, and I had no issues using the MX8315 datasheet to understand circuits using the UM9515.

Reply 8 of 9, by youxiaojie

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mkarcher wrote on 2025-11-25, 12:46:
feipoa wrote on 2025-11-25, 08:51:

No, but it is probably similar to MX8315.

That's a very conservative way to express it. The UM9515 seems to be functional clone of the MX8315, and I had no issues using the MX8315 datasheet to understand circuits using the UM9515.

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Reply 9 of 9, by Disruptor

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I have connected turbo button to the jumper that switches my HOT-433 between 40 and 25 MHz. The clock generator changes oscillation so slow that I have no problems changing the frequency on the fly.