Foey - nice Pentium scores Is it actually stable for long periods at 250mhz?
Is it the SDR version or the DDR on that geforce256? Test it either way 🤣.

AlphaWing wrote:

Foey - nice Pentium scores Is it actually stable for long periods at 250mhz?
Is it the SDR version or the DDR on that geforce256? Test it either way 🤣.

It's the DDR version, creative.

Thanks! The Pentium is very stable at 250mhz, not even a voltage adjustment required! Didn't have one issue running at that speed. Ran various games and benchmarks. My K6-2 450 is very unstable at 75mhz on the fsb, let alone 83mhz

Other benchmarks are now also crashing. Turns out the driver put the clocks back to 93 Mhz instead of 90 😵

Tried capturing but the AVerMedia doesn't like the 800 x 600 output of the Voodoo. What a pain...

Anyway watching the World Cup now. Back in my retro lab tomorrow. Well today, just later.

dottoss wrote:

Specs: Retroputer XW8200, 604 Socket Dual Xeon Irwindale 3.80GHz FSB 800Mhz 2MB Cache 4GB Ram Elpida PC2-3200 ECC Intel X25-m G2 […]
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Specs: Retroputer
XW8200, 604 Socket
Dual Xeon Irwindale 3.80GHz FSB 800Mhz 2MB Cache
4GB Ram Elpida PC2-3200 ECC
Intel X25-m G2 80GB, ICH5
Voodoo 5 5500 PCI @ 66MHz PCI-X
Windows XP SP3

Test Results:
3DMark Result : 14 406 3DMarks
Synthetic CPU 3D Speed : 49 891 CPU 3DMarks
Rasterizer Score : 6 316 3DRasterMarks
Game 1 - Race: 141.4 FPS
Game 2 - First Person: 146.9 FPS
Fill Rate : 510.5 MTexels/s
Fill Rate With Multi-Texturing : 632.7 MTexels/s
2MB Texture Rendering Speed: 762.3 FPS
4MB Texture Rendering Speed: 746.0 FPS
8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 617.5 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 505.5 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 5.1 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 3-pass: 421.1 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 2-pass: 497.4 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 1-pass: 653.0 FPS
Point Sample Texture Filtering Speed: N/A
Bilinear Texture Filtering Speed: N/A
Trilinear Texture Filtering Speed: N/A
Anisotropic Texture Filtering Speed: N/A
6 Pixel/individual: N/A
6 Pixel/strips: N/A
25 Pixel/individual: N/A
25 Pixel/strips: N/A
50 Pixel/individual: N/A
50 Pixel/strips: N/A
250 Pixel/individual: N/A
250 Pixel/strips: N/A
1000 Pixel/individual: N/A
1000 Pixel/strips: N/A

System:
Windows Version: Windows 5Service Pack 3, Build 2600
DirectX Version: 7.07.07.0904
Bios Version: Not detected
Bios Date: Not detected
Total Physical Memory: 2 048 MB
Free Physical Memory: 2 048 MB

Processor:
Processor Type: Unknown
Processor Speed: 3683 MHz
Processor Caps: MMX SSE
L1 Cache Size: None
L2 Cache Size: None

Desktop:
2D Display Adapter Name: Not detected
2D Display Adapter Driver Date: Not detected
Monitor Name: Not detected
Monitor Driver Date: Not detected
Desktop Resolution: 1280*1024
Desktop Color Depth: 32-Bit Color

3D Accelerator:
Name: 3dfx Voodoo Series
Driver Name: 3dfxvs.dll
Driver Version: 0.00.00.0000
Total Video Memory On Card: 31 870 KB
Total Texture Memory: 11 390 KB
Bus: PCI

Really great results. What driver set are you using?

Was just messing around on one my own Voodoo II machines and noticed Voodoo Control does not work with the Voodoo II, I thought it did.
Another Utility called Voodoo 2 Tweaker tho let me disable v-sync on the voodoo II.
Gonna posts benchmarks soon.

3DMark Project:
3DMark Build Version: 200
Date: 7/12/14
Time: 6:11:15 PM
Project Name:P3-700-GeforceFX 5700u
Comments: PIII-700, 512mb PC133@100-2-2-2, Asus P2bf, Geforce Fx 5700 Ultra.
Windows 98se, 16-bit Color 16-bit Z-buffer.

Project Settings (Template):
Rendering Platform: Internal (NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Ultra)
Resolution: 800*600
Color Depth: 16-bit Color
CPU Optimization: Intel(r) Pentium(r) III
Z-Buffer: 16-bit
Frame Buffer: Triple buffering
Refresh Rate: VSync Off
Looping: Disabled
Texture Format: 16-bit, 4444 RGBA
Run Tests: Once
Title Screen: Shown

Test Results:
3DMark Result : 5,096 3DMarks
Synthetic CPU 3D Speed : 9,661 CPU 3DMarks
Rasterizer Score : 9,461 3DRasterMarks
Game 1 - Race: 59.1 FPS
Game 2 - First Person: 44.8 FPS
Fill Rate : 720.7 MTexels/s
Fill Rate With Multi-Texturing : 1,261.1 MTexels/s
2MB Texture Rendering Speed: 931.2 FPS
4MB Texture Rendering Speed: 626.2 FPS
8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 378.6 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 224.9 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 124.9 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 3-pass: 343.9 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 2-pass: 417.6 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 1-pass: 541.3 FPS
Point Sample Texture Filtering Speed: 98.5 %
Bilinear Texture Filtering Speed: 100.0 %
Trilinear Texture Filtering Speed: 113.5 %
Anisotropic Texture Filtering Speed: Not Supported
6 Pixel/individual: 2,048.2 KPolygons/s
6 Pixel/strips: 4,976.7 KPolygons/s
25 Pixel/individual: 1,971.1 KPolygons/s
25 Pixel/strips: 5,101.9 KPolygons/s
50 Pixel/individual: 1,730.5 KPolygons/s
50 Pixel/strips: 4,181.1 KPolygons/s
250 Pixel/individual: 1,461.5 KPolygons/s
250 Pixel/strips: 2,421.2 KPolygons/s
1000 Pixel/individual: 653.4 KPolygons/s
1000 Pixel/strips: 780.5 KPolygons/s

System:
Windows Version: Windows 4 A , Build 2222
DirectX Version: 4.08.01.0881
Bios Version: Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG
Bios Date: 08/18/00
Total Physical Memory: 511 MB
Free Physical Memory: 309 MB

Processor:
Processor Type: Unknown
Processor Speed: 700 MHz
Processor Caps: MMX SSE
L1 Cache Size: 32 KB
L2 Cache Size: None

Desktop:
2D Display Adapter Name: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Ultra
2D Display Adapter Driver Date: 03-03-2004
Monitor Name: Default Monitor
Monitor Driver Date: 4-23-1999
Desktop Resolution: 1360*768
Desktop Color Depth: 32-Bit Color

3D Accelerator:
Name: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Ultra
Driver Name: NVDD32.DLL
Driver Version: 4.14.10.5664
Total Video Memory On Card: 129,520 KB
Total Texture Memory: 190,976 KB
Bus: AGP

Supported Features:
16-bit Rendering
32-bit Rendering
Point Sampling
Point Sampling With Mip-Mapping
Bilinear Filtering
Bilinear Filtering With Mip-Mapping
Trilinear Filtering
Specular Gouraud Shading
Vertex Fox
Range-Based Fog
Table Fog
W-Fog
Sub-Pixel Accuracy
Edge Antialiasing
Alpha Blending
Addivitive Alpha Blending
Multiplicative Alpha Blending
Vertex Alpha Blending
Vertex And Texture Alpha Blending
S3 Texture Compression

Screenshot Score = 5096 CPUMARKS=9661

Score seems low but it doesn't change with 32-bit color so it maybe is ok, as this GPU should be the bottleneck by the CPU on this system.

3DMark Project:
3DMark Build Version: 200
Date: 7/12/14
Time: 6:22:30 PM
Project Name:P3-700-GeforceFX 5700u
Comments: PIII-700, 512mb PC133@100-2-2-2, Asus P2bf, Geforce Fx 5700 Ultra.
Windows 98se, 32-bit Color 24-bit Z-buffer.

Project Settings (Template):
Rendering Platform: Internal (NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Ultra)
Resolution: 800*600
Color Depth: 32-bit Color
CPU Optimization: Intel(r) Pentium(r) III
Z-Buffer: 24-bit
Frame Buffer: Triple buffering
Refresh Rate: VSync Off
Looping: Disabled
Texture Format: 32-bit, 8888 RGBA
Run Tests: Once
Title Screen: Shown

Test Results:
3DMark Result : 5,081 3DMarks
Synthetic CPU 3D Speed : 9,622 CPU 3DMarks
Rasterizer Score : 9,529 3DRasterMarks
Game 1 - Race: 58.9 FPS
Game 2 - First Person: 44.7 FPS
Fill Rate : 690.7 MTexels/s
Fill Rate With Multi-Texturing : 1,199.5 MTexels/s
2MB Texture Rendering Speed: 1,108.1 FPS
4MB Texture Rendering Speed: 769.7 FPS
8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 554.7 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 355.9 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 216.2 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 3-pass: 329.8 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 2-pass: 364.8 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 1-pass: 504.1 FPS
Point Sample Texture Filtering Speed: 100.4 %
Bilinear Texture Filtering Speed: 100.0 %
Trilinear Texture Filtering Speed: 94.9 %
Anisotropic Texture Filtering Speed: Not Supported
6 Pixel/individual: 1,997.2 KPolygons/s
6 Pixel/strips: 4,973.1 KPolygons/s
25 Pixel/individual: 1,976.6 KPolygons/s
25 Pixel/strips: 5,138.2 KPolygons/s
50 Pixel/individual: 1,741.8 KPolygons/s
50 Pixel/strips: 4,163.2 KPolygons/s
250 Pixel/individual: 1,290.3 KPolygons/s
250 Pixel/strips: 2,348.5 KPolygons/s
1000 Pixel/individual: 583.0 KPolygons/s
1000 Pixel/strips: 695.1 KPolygons/s

System:
Windows Version: Windows 4 A , Build 2222
DirectX Version: 4.08.01.0881
Bios Version: Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG
Bios Date: 08/18/00
Total Physical Memory: 511 MB
Free Physical Memory: 309 MB

Processor:
Processor Type: Unknown
Processor Speed: 700 MHz
Processor Caps: MMX SSE
L1 Cache Size: 32 KB
L2 Cache Size: None

Desktop:
2D Display Adapter Name: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Ultra
2D Display Adapter Driver Date: 03-03-2004
Monitor Name: Default Monitor
Monitor Driver Date: 4-23-1999
Desktop Resolution: 1360*768
Desktop Color Depth: 32-Bit Color

3D Accelerator:
Name: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Ultra
Driver Name: NVDD32.DLL
Driver Version: 4.14.10.5664
Total Video Memory On Card: 129,520 KB
Total Texture Memory: 190,976 KB
Bus: AGP

Supported Features:
16-bit Rendering
32-bit Rendering
Point Sampling
Point Sampling With Mip-Mapping
Bilinear Filtering
Bilinear Filtering With Mip-Mapping
Trilinear Filtering
Specular Gouraud Shading
Vertex Fox
Range-Based Fog
Table Fog
W-Fog
Sub-Pixel Accuracy
Edge Antialiasing
Alpha Blending
Addivitive Alpha Blending
Multiplicative Alpha Blending
Vertex Alpha Blending
Vertex And Texture Alpha Blending
S3 Texture Compression

Screenshot Score = 5081 CPUMARKS=9622
Still Better then the Voodoo II will post next.

3DMark Project:
3DMark Build Version: 200
Date: 7/12/14
Time: 6:33:45 PM
Project Name:P3-700-Voodoo II
Comments: PIII-700, 512mb PC133@100-2-2-2, Asus P2bf,
Guillemot Voodoo II stock 90mhz Windows 98se 16-bit-color 16-bit Zbuffer

Project Settings (Template):
Rendering Platform: External (Voodoo2 3D Accelerator)
Resolution: 800*600
Color Depth: 16-bit Color
CPU Optimization: Intel(r) Pentium(r) III
Z-Buffer: 16-bit
Frame Buffer: Triple buffering
Refresh Rate: VSync Off
Looping: Disabled
Texture Format: 16-bit, 4444 RGBA
Run Tests: Once
Title Screen: Shown

Test Results:
3DMark Result : 3,143 3DMarks
Synthetic CPU 3D Speed : 9,620 CPU 3DMarks
Rasterizer Score : 995 3DRasterMarks
Game 1 - Race: 30.6 FPS
Game 2 - First Person: 32.3 FPS
Fill Rate : 73.6 MTexels/s
Fill Rate With Multi-Texturing : 146.1 MTexels/s
2MB Texture Rendering Speed: 202.2 FPS
4MB Texture Rendering Speed: 21.3 FPS
8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 10.7 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 5.3 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 2.6 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 3-pass: 66.7 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 2-pass: 89.5 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 1-pass: Not Supported
Point Sample Texture Filtering Speed: 102.0 %
Bilinear Texture Filtering Speed: 100.0 %
Trilinear Texture Filtering Speed: 72.3 %
Anisotropic Texture Filtering Speed: Not Supported
6 Pixel/individual: 1,323.7 KPolygons/s
6 Pixel/strips: 1,304.7 KPolygons/s
25 Pixel/individual: 1,162.3 KPolygons/s
25 Pixel/strips: 1,223.0 KPolygons/s
50 Pixel/individual: 831.6 KPolygons/s
50 Pixel/strips: 813.3 KPolygons/s
250 Pixel/individual: 225.2 KPolygons/s
250 Pixel/strips: 236.1 KPolygons/s
1000 Pixel/individual: 67.5 KPolygons/s
1000 Pixel/strips: 68.6 KPolygons/s

System:
Windows Version: Windows 4 A , Build 2222
DirectX Version: 4.08.01.0881
Bios Version: Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG
Bios Date: 08/18/00
Total Physical Memory: 511 MB
Free Physical Memory: 309 MB

Processor:
Processor Type: Unknown
Processor Speed: 700 MHz
Processor Caps: MMX SSE
L1 Cache Size: 32 KB
L2 Cache Size: None

Desktop:
2D Display Adapter Name: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Ultra
2D Display Adapter Driver Date: 03-03-2004
Monitor Name: Default Monitor
Monitor Driver Date: 4-23-1999
Desktop Resolution: 1360*768
Desktop Color Depth: 32-Bit Color

3D Accelerator:
Name: Voodoo2 3D Accelerator
Driver Name: 3dfx32v2.dll
Driver Version: 4.11.01.1151
Total Video Memory On Card: 4,096 KB
Total Texture Memory: 8,192 KB
Bus: PCI

Supported Features:
16-bit Rendering
Point Sampling
Point Sampling With Mip-Mapping
Bilinear Filtering
Bilinear Filtering With Mip-Mapping
Trilinear Filtering
Specular Gouraud Shading
Vertex Fox
Table Fog
W-Fog
Sub-Pixel Accuracy
Alpha Blending
Addivitive Alpha Blending
Multiplicative Alpha Blending
Vertex Alpha Blending
Vertex And Texture Alpha Blending

Screenshot Score = 3143 CPUMARKS=9620
Score off? all three seem lower then they should be.

Okido here are the results for a 3.2 GHz Pentium 4 with Voodoo 2 SLI 😀

Images are bit blurry at 1600 x 1200 but you should be able to read all the details. Just right click and view the image in another tab.

Interesting, subhuman@xgtx posted a score with an oced barton of a little over 7k.
Dual V2's like amd more? or the FSB is affecting the score greatly.

And That FX 5700u machine I posted above isn't acting weird in other benches\games something off with the drivers I used in 99 on it. Can't use the 40 series with the 5700 like you can with the 5800 which is annoying as they are more stable\compatible on the FX cards in 9x.

Yea I don't overclock / tune. All stock standard. Could be many reasons 😀

I think overclocking old hardware is really silly. Just grab something faster 🤣

subhuman@xgtx wrote:

dottoss wrote:

Specs: Retroputer XW8200, 604 Socket Dual Xeon Irwindale 3.80GHz FSB 800Mhz 2MB Cache 4GB Ram Elpida PC2-3200 ECC Intel X25-m G2 […]
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Specs: Retroputer
XW8200, 604 Socket
Dual Xeon Irwindale 3.80GHz FSB 800Mhz 2MB Cache
4GB Ram Elpida PC2-3200 ECC
Intel X25-m G2 80GB, ICH5
Voodoo 5 5500 PCI @ 66MHz PCI-X
Windows XP SP3

Test Results:
3DMark Result : 14 406 3DMarks
Synthetic CPU 3D Speed : 49 891 CPU 3DMarks
Rasterizer Score : 6 316 3DRasterMarks
Game 1 - Race: 141.4 FPS
Game 2 - First Person: 146.9 FPS
Fill Rate : 510.5 MTexels/s
Fill Rate With Multi-Texturing : 632.7 MTexels/s
2MB Texture Rendering Speed: 762.3 FPS
4MB Texture Rendering Speed: 746.0 FPS
8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 617.5 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 505.5 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 5.1 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 3-pass: 421.1 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 2-pass: 497.4 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 1-pass: 653.0 FPS
Point Sample Texture Filtering Speed: N/A

Really great results. What driver set are you using?

Thanks, This benchmark ran with SFFT 1.9 drivers, I suspect that if I try the Amigamerlin r3.11 it would boost it slightly, but the drivers has some later gaming compatibility problems.

Posting my PIII rig for the first time. Its not complete yet, hence why no build log.

PIII Copermine 733mhz
256mb PC133 RAM
MS6309 VIA Apollo Pro133A Chipset Motherboard
32mb Creative LABs 256 Annihilator Pro AGP Graphics Card
IDE 40Gb 7200rpm / 160Gb 7200rpm Hard Drive
DVD-RW Drive
6 Channel C-Media PCI Sound Card
Windows ME

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

Yea I don't overclock / tune. All stock standard. Could be many reasons 😀

I think overclocking old hardware is really silly. Just grab something faster 🤣

Your system scores as it should. My V2's score @stock clocks hovers at around 6.1k.

When things go right, getting more of the hardware is fun though 😀

Ok,ok back in the day when I was cash strapped I was also overclocking 😀

But I just can't do it with this old hardware now. Got to look after it.

dottoss wrote:

subhuman@xgtx wrote:

dottoss wrote:

Specs: Retroputer XW8200, 604 Socket Dual Xeon Irwindale 3.80GHz FSB 800Mhz 2MB Cache 4GB Ram Elpida PC2-3200 ECC Intel X25-m G2 […]
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Specs: Retroputer
XW8200, 604 Socket
Dual Xeon Irwindale 3.80GHz FSB 800Mhz 2MB Cache
4GB Ram Elpida PC2-3200 ECC
Intel X25-m G2 80GB, ICH5
Voodoo 5 5500 PCI @ 66MHz PCI-X
Windows XP SP3

Test Results:
3DMark Result : 14 406 3DMarks
Synthetic CPU 3D Speed : 49 891 CPU 3DMarks
Rasterizer Score : 6 316 3DRasterMarks
Game 1 - Race: 141.4 FPS
Game 2 - First Person: 146.9 FPS
Fill Rate : 510.5 MTexels/s
Fill Rate With Multi-Texturing : 632.7 MTexels/s
2MB Texture Rendering Speed: 762.3 FPS
4MB Texture Rendering Speed: 746.0 FPS
8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 617.5 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 505.5 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 5.1 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 3-pass: 421.1 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 2-pass: 497.4 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 1-pass: 653.0 FPS
Point Sample Texture Filtering Speed: N/A

Really great results. What driver set are you using?

Thanks, This benchmark ran with SFFT 1.9 drivers, I suspect that if I try the Amigamerlin r3.11 it would boost it slightly, but the drivers has some later gaming compatibility problems.

Really nice score indeed. I was curious about this because I get around the same framerate in Test 1- around 152 fps with my system and a 5500 @ 188mhz but the fps on the second test are about 25 less than yours

Finished working with the V2 cards, so I wanted to test a few AGP cards under W98 on the Asrock P4 S478 board. Wanted to try an ATI Radeon 9800 card. Good old ATI > Blue screen after driver installation 🤣

So I will test a few Nvidia cards I haven't tested before. First up is a Nvidia Quadro FX 2000. This is the workstation equivalent to the FX 5800 (non Ultra) I believe.

The Quadro has dual DVI outputs, so this was also a chance to test out this DVI 1 to 4 splitter I got a while ago. Works great! Screenshots taken with the AVerMedia GameBroadcaster HD through DVI > HDMI adapter.

Driver is the latest one from Nvidia: Version 81.98
Release Date Wed Dec 21, 2005

Here with a slow P4:

Here with a fast one:

Here with a FX5950 Ultra. This is my fastest W98 SE compatible AGP card. I have two 6600GT AGP cards but both don't POST 😒

Almost no improvement over the FX 5800 so I guess the CPU is holding everything back...

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

Here with a FX5950 Ultra. This is my fastest W98 SE compatible AGP card. I have two 6600GT AGP cards but both don't POST :blah: […]
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Here with a FX5950 Ultra. This is my fastest W98 SE compatible AGP card. I have two 6600GT AGP cards but both don't POST 😒

Almost no improvement over the FX 5800 so I guess the CPU is holding everything back...

Its a Pentium 4 😜
What else can you expect. Arguably Intel's worst series since the 8088/8086

smeezekitty wrote:

Its a Pentium 4 😜
What else can you expect. Arguably Intel's worst series since the 8088/8086

I love the P4, Northwood that is. The platform is rock stable and a joy to work with.

Here is another result:

This is with a Quadro4 XGL, the workstation version of the GeForce4 Ti 4800 (also known as 4600 AGP 8x), the top GeForce4.