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Reply 6320 of 54979, by Lukeno94

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smeezekitty wrote:
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My Latitude CP M233ST, with its P233 MMX, is more than quick enough for office usage. The only issue is that having only 64MB of RAM in Windows 98 can cause it to chug a little bit at times. I usually use Office 2010, which does have a few useful improvements over the old versions, such as Office 2002 (on my Vaio) and Word 97 (on the Latitude) - yes, I genuinely prefer the ribbon interface; I am "that guy".

Office 2010 in 64MB of RAM?

HOW?

I haven't used Office 2010 with that system. It usually has 6GB or 12GB of RAM to play with, so memory issues aren't something I ever think about with my main two systems.

Reply 6321 of 54979, by meljor

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Got an unhappy couple today. M3D-II and CT6670 First the SLI socket are not aligned on the two cards. Second SLI won't work in Q […]
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Got an unhappy couple today.
M3D-II and CT6670
First the SLI socket are not aligned on the two cards.
Second SLI won't work in Q3A. Original 3dfx driver says SLI detected but blacks out when Q3A is launched. Tried FastVoodoo2 4.0XP but no luck. Individual card works flawlessly.
These two cards were quite popular back then. Were they meant not to be together? Or should I try some other drivers? The OS is XP SP3. Thanks.

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the creative card works in sli with my trust voodoo dragon 2 and my guilemot cards but the diamond card doesn't work with any other voodoo2 i have (the card works fine in single setup).

Mismatched drivers didn't work as well so i guess if you want to run sli with a diamond the only option is pairing it with another diamond.

Best experience is always 2 identical cards ofcourse but different brands can work together.

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Reply 6322 of 54979, by sliderider

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obobskivich wrote:
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The Voodoo 2 cards you are using are from different manufacturers. The top one is a Creative 3D Blaster and the bottom one is a […]
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The Voodoo 2 cards you are using are from different manufacturers.
The top one is a Creative 3D Blaster and the bottom one is a Diamond Monster 3D 2.
You will need a "mis-matched SLI voodoo 2 driver"
http://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/news/3dfx/voodoo2_ … ched_beta_0.22/

I have never tried mismatched Voodoo 2 cards on XP, only on 9x.
Also because there are more choices in drivers.

+1, however I've heard that the Diamond + Creative combo is apparently problematic even with modified drivers. "Back in the day" you would not be doing a pairing like this - you would have either two Creative cards or two Diamond cards, and that was the requirement. The mis-match drivers are a hack.

It's kind of moot when he says that the SLi connectors on the two cards do not align so getting the short SLi cable to work is going to be impossible unless he builds a longer one that can be distorted without coming up short.

Reply 6323 of 54979, by SquallStrife

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I wonder what's involved in making two V2 cards "appear" identical?

Where is the identifier stored that makes a Creative card different to a Diamond card?

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Reply 6324 of 54979, by Gamecollector

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SquallStrife wrote:

Where is the identifier stored that makes a Creative card different to a Diamond card?

PCI SUBSYS and REV values.

Asus P4P800 SE/Pentium4 3.2E/2 Gb DDR400B,
Radeon HD3850 Agp (Sapphire), Catalyst 14.4 (XpProSp3).
Voodoo2 12 MB SLI, Win2k drivers 1.02.00 (XpProSp3).

Reply 6325 of 54979, by xenu

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Got these last week:

Alliance AT3D, is it the worst consumer 3D card ever?
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Two Tridents 9750, worthy competitors of AT3D, one with tv-out, one without
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Probably everyone here know what kind of card it is
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SiS 6326
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Some kind of cheap no-name soundcard with OPL chip (it's dusty!):
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Reply 6326 of 54979, by Skyscraper

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Nice, everybody should own a Gravis Ultrasound card of some kind to be able to run old DOS demos 😀

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Reply 6327 of 54979, by carlostex

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Wow GUS rev 2.2? That's a rather early GUS revision. The other dusty cheap card you mention is an OPL3SAx card. It has Sound Blaster, Sound Blaster Pro 2 compatibility, Windows Sound System, MPU-401 UART, Yamaha YMF289(OPL3) full duplex all in a single chipset. It can do 44KHz Stereo in Sound Blaster Pro mode, something that a true Sound Blaster Pro 2 cannot. Try the card with a .MOD player like INERTIA and you'll see what i mean.

Reply 6328 of 54979, by Artex

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carlostex wrote:

Wow GUS rev 2.2? That's a rather early GUS revision

Was thinking the same.. Earliest I have is a 2.4. Nice!

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Reply 6329 of 54979, by Arctic

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SquallStrife wrote:

I wonder what's involved in making two V2 cards "appear" identical?

Where is the identifier stored that makes a Creative card different to a Diamond card?

Also, I used to have a Diamond Monster 3D 2,
that had some handmande wire rework underneath the "CK" (Chuck) chip.
Single use and SLI with another Diamond card worked just fine.
Too bad I sold it. What an odd card 😁

Reply 6330 of 54979, by vmunix

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xenu wrote:
Got these last week: […]
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Got these last week:

Alliance AT3D, is it the worst consumer 3D card ever?

Two Tridents 9750, worthy competitors of AT3D, one with tv-out, one without

SiS 6326

3 of the worst 3D cards I know, I would add the the list S3 Virge DX 3D "decelerator" made the games slower with direct 3D enabled.

Trailing edge computing.

Reply 6331 of 54979, by 5u3

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xenu wrote:
Probably everyone here know what kind of card it is http://personal.xenu.pl/photos/cards/gravis.jpg […]
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Probably everyone here know what kind of card it is
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Hey, I've got the same rev. 2.2 GUS!
It even has the same makeshift job at C13/C14/C15 (just right of the "UltraSound" writing) where they put a resistor in series with the capacitor by just twirling the leads together and putting a blob of solder on it. Other spots on my card look a little rough as well, so I think these were at least partly put together manually. 😉

Reply 6332 of 54979, by Lukeno94

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vmunix wrote:

3 of the worst 3D cards I know, I would add the the list S3 Virge DX 3D "decelerator" made the games slower with direct 3D enabled.

The ATI Rage Mobility M1 graphics chip does that in some games with my Sony Vaio laptop, and its 1.1 GHz Duron... that's more a case of the GPU being well past its sell-by date when compared to the CPU though.

Reply 6333 of 54979, by bjt

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xenu wrote:

Some kind of cheap no-name soundcard with OPL chip (it's dusty!):

Looks like that might be tall enough to mount a MIDI daughterboard without a cable, in which case it's a great find.

Reply 6334 of 54979, by carlostex

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bjt wrote:

Looks like that might be tall enough to mount a MIDI daughterboard without a cable, in which case it's a great find.

Oh wow i didn't even noticed that. This is actually a rarity among OPL3SAx cards!

Reply 6335 of 54979, by vmunix

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carlostex wrote:
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Looks like that might be tall enough to mount a MIDI daughterboard without a cable, in which case it's a great find.

Oh wow i didn't even noticed that. This is actually a rarity among OPL3SAx cards!

yup! I bought one for that and backfired, none of my 3 daughter boards fited so it's collecting dust somewhere.

What I think it's even more rare is one of those ISA yamaha boards WITH the Wave table chip + ROM installed, never seen one.

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Reply 6336 of 54979, by carlostex

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I'm pissed. Lost an auction on eBay for a Yamaha MU10. FUCK

Reply 6337 of 54979, by Anonymous Coward

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I think I've got the same Yamaha card, and I believe that a full sized DB does actually fit.

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Reply 6338 of 54979, by tokroger

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Got this for free, don´t know yet if it is working piece but soon I will...

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Reply 6339 of 54979, by Artex

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Free GUS MAX?! Awesome!! I'll cross my fingers for you. 😀

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