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Foreshadowing the value of P4 hardware

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Reply 100 of 106, by obobskivich

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feipoa wrote:

I will ultimately test all the motherboards to determine which boards I can simply put into the recycle bin and to determine which CPUs are functional, however I still only plan on keeping 4 of the 16 Intel 845 boards. I will keep all RAM and CPUs though, as these require little storage volume. I will recap that i865G board since this is the only 865 board in the lot.

I think even my PIII BIOS could see 3.3 - 3.6 GB, depending on which grapics card was installed and how many PCI ROM options were set. If all PCI ROM options were disabled and the onboard video was utilised, I recall the BIOS seeing 3.9x GB. I don't understand why these P4 boards are seeing less than a PIII board.

Which P3 board is that? Is it a server/workstation platform?

Reply 101 of 106, by ODwilly

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?It … N82E16813131504 this is the motherboard I use in my media center pc. The bios only sees 3x of my 4gb of ram but Windows 7 sees all 4gb and utilizes the usual amount for 32bit Windows 7.

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Reply 102 of 106, by calvin

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Buying an 845GV board would be a stupid idea, as it lacks an AGP slot.

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Reply 103 of 106, by ODwilly

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calvin wrote:

Buying an 845GV board would be a stupid idea, as it lacks an AGP slot.

What the motherboard I linked on Newegg? #1 if you would have looked a bit closer it is out of stock (and has been for like 8 years) #2 I was just showing what board I use and participating in the discussion of memory issues/quircks. #3 I picked my board up for free and am pretty happy with it. #4 It is an 865GV thus relevant to the discussion on memory issues 😵

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Reply 104 of 106, by feipoa

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obobskivich wrote:
feipoa wrote:

I will ultimately test all the motherboards to determine which boards I can simply put into the recycle bin and to determine which CPUs are functional, however I still only plan on keeping 4 of the 16 Intel 845 boards. I will keep all RAM and CPUs though, as these require little storage volume. I will recap that i865G board since this is the only 865 board in the lot.

I think even my PIII BIOS could see 3.3 - 3.6 GB, depending on which grapics card was installed and how many PCI ROM options were set. If all PCI ROM options were disabled and the onboard video was utilised, I recall the BIOS seeing 3.9x GB. I don't understand why these P4 boards are seeing less than a PIII board.

Which P3 board is that? Is it a server/workstation platform?

Weren't all dual PIII Tualatin boards considered workstation or server class boards? In particular, I was referencing my experience with: SuperMicro P3TDDE, Intel SAI2, and MSI MS-9105.

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Reply 105 of 106, by idspispopd

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feipoa wrote:

I did not have the best success with the HD4350 in my dual PIII-1.4 Tualatin computer for accelerating Flash or other online content. I recall that it only accelerated certain offline HD videos. Used Win7 for that test.

There was a thread some time ago on this subject. It seems you need SSE2 to get flash acceleration, regardless of which video card you have. I suppose your HD4350 would be fine for a P4 machine.

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Interesting about the AGP 4350 - I've often wondered how the AGP-bridged ATi cards handle AVIVO/UVD; I know on the nVidia AGP-bridged cards a number of features are usually disabled vs the PCIe variant (no idea why they do this).

I think I remember reading something about needing a small driver mod/hack for those AGP HD4xxx cards to enable video acceleration. It is not a hardware restriction.

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Reply 106 of 106, by obobskivich

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feipoa wrote:

Weren't all dual PIII Tualatin boards considered workstation or server class boards? In particular, I was referencing my experience with: SuperMicro P3TDDE, Intel SAI2, and MSI MS-9105.

Yes, generally. I was thinking of my i815 though, which only handles 512MB. 4GB on a P3 is pretty significant. There are server/workstation SuperMicro, Tyan, etc NetBurst boards that will handle well over 4GB of RAM too.